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  • futurebird@sauropods.winF This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    The way that you, as an adult, react to creatures has a massive impact on young people watching you.

    If you scream when you see a bee, they will scream too. After all you have survived in this world much longer than they have and you are scared, so they need to be scared too.

    Even if you are scared you can model better reactions. And it works really well.

    futurebird@sauropods.winF jakobtougaard@mastodon.onlineJ cthw@mstdn.caC shonin@c.imS roseraven@eldritch.cafeR 12 Replies Last reply
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    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

      The way that you, as an adult, react to creatures has a massive impact on young people watching you.

      If you scream when you see a bee, they will scream too. After all you have survived in this world much longer than they have and you are scared, so they need to be scared too.

      Even if you are scared you can model better reactions. And it works really well.

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      #2

      Bees and wasps will be attracted to people with some perfumes on. So if a kid tells you a bee is chasing them, it might be true.

      If you are taking your urban kids to some place with... creatures ... remind them not to wear perfumes or flowery soaps if they can help it.

      If a bee or wasp starts doing this it's best to stay still. She will realize there isn't a flower and leave but if she get swatted at she may get scared and then you have a problem.

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      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

        The way that you, as an adult, react to creatures has a massive impact on young people watching you.

        If you scream when you see a bee, they will scream too. After all you have survived in this world much longer than they have and you are scared, so they need to be scared too.

        Even if you are scared you can model better reactions. And it works really well.

        jakobtougaard@mastodon.onlineJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @futurebird my wife and I took time (minutes) to explain our kids how to tell a wasp or bee from hoverflies. The rest of their childhood they were the heroes that remained calm whenever a "wasp" was around 😁

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        • jakobtougaard@mastodon.onlineJ jakobtougaard@mastodon.online

          @futurebird my wife and I took time (minutes) to explain our kids how to tell a wasp or bee from hoverflies. The rest of their childhood they were the heroes that remained calm whenever a "wasp" was around 😁

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          #4

          @jakobtougaard @futurebird You should always stay calm when wasps are around. Unless you're allergic, a sting won't cause any serious harm, and either way you're more likely to get stung if you're flailing about.

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          • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

            The way that you, as an adult, react to creatures has a massive impact on young people watching you.

            If you scream when you see a bee, they will scream too. After all you have survived in this world much longer than they have and you are scared, so they need to be scared too.

            Even if you are scared you can model better reactions. And it works really well.

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            #5

            Another not totally obvious thing I've learned when teaching young people (and some adults...) about insects is that when you show them a photo of an insect it helps to point out "this is her head, her eyes are right here, she is eating nectar in this photo"

            Sometimes people who don't look at bugs often don't understand which end is which. I've gotten the reaction "oooh! she's cute" after explaining this so often that I'm convinced it's important.

            Otherwise it's just a jumble of legs!

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            • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

              Another not totally obvious thing I've learned when teaching young people (and some adults...) about insects is that when you show them a photo of an insect it helps to point out "this is her head, her eyes are right here, she is eating nectar in this photo"

              Sometimes people who don't look at bugs often don't understand which end is which. I've gotten the reaction "oooh! she's cute" after explaining this so often that I'm convinced it's important.

              Otherwise it's just a jumble of legs!

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              #6

              A strange possibly scary creature seems less strange when you can tell what it is doing and that it... you know has a head and likes to do things like eat just like you do.

              A monster is a thing you can't understand at all, it could do anything. A little bee drinking nectar isn't a monster.

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              • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                Another not totally obvious thing I've learned when teaching young people (and some adults...) about insects is that when you show them a photo of an insect it helps to point out "this is her head, her eyes are right here, she is eating nectar in this photo"

                Sometimes people who don't look at bugs often don't understand which end is which. I've gotten the reaction "oooh! she's cute" after explaining this so often that I'm convinced it's important.

                Otherwise it's just a jumble of legs!

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                #7

                @futurebird I am often surprised how little time most kids spend looking at an insect shown to them, but as soon as you give it another name than "bug" or "beetle" and point out to them for example that it is a longhorn beetle and you can see on the antennas why it is called this, they get exited. The best comes later (minutes, days) when you can overhear the child teaching other kids that this is a longhorn beetle and why 😁.
                Kids want to learn and they have a right to know 🤗

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                • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                  Another not totally obvious thing I've learned when teaching young people (and some adults...) about insects is that when you show them a photo of an insect it helps to point out "this is her head, her eyes are right here, she is eating nectar in this photo"

                  Sometimes people who don't look at bugs often don't understand which end is which. I've gotten the reaction "oooh! she's cute" after explaining this so often that I'm convinced it's important.

                  Otherwise it's just a jumble of legs!

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                  #8
                  @futurebird i'm yet again reminded of 2 things:

                  1. a tumblr post i can no longer find where bogleech described cockroaches as "deerlike"

                  2. this bit from That Hideous Strength, which frankly i found far more valuable wrt small animals than the human relations it's "supposed" to be about:

                  > And Jane sat still till the room became filled with silence like a solid thing and there was first a scratching and then a rustling and presently she saw three plump mice working their passage across what was to them the thick undergrowth of the carpet, nosing this way and that so that if their course had been drawn it would have resembled that of a winding river, until they were so close that she could see the twinkling of their eyes and even the palpitation of their noses. In spite of what she had said she did not really care for mice in the neighbourhood of her feet and it was with an effort that she sat still. Thanks to this effort she saw mice for the first time as they really are--not as creeping things but as dainty quadrupeds, almost, when they sat up, like tiny kangaroos, with sensitive kid-gloved forepaws and transparent ears. With quick, inaudible movements they ranged to and fro till not a crumb was left on the floor. Then he blew a second time on his whistle and with a sudden whisk of tails all three of them were racing for home and in a few seconds had disappeared behind the coal box.
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                  • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                    Another not totally obvious thing I've learned when teaching young people (and some adults...) about insects is that when you show them a photo of an insect it helps to point out "this is her head, her eyes are right here, she is eating nectar in this photo"

                    Sometimes people who don't look at bugs often don't understand which end is which. I've gotten the reaction "oooh! she's cute" after explaining this so often that I'm convinced it's important.

                    Otherwise it's just a jumble of legs!

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                    #9

                    @futurebird I have a modest proposal

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                    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                      The way that you, as an adult, react to creatures has a massive impact on young people watching you.

                      If you scream when you see a bee, they will scream too. After all you have survived in this world much longer than they have and you are scared, so they need to be scared too.

                      Even if you are scared you can model better reactions. And it works really well.

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                      #10

                      @futurebird
                      Many years ago when my daughter and her friend were five, they watched me turning our compost and were awestruck by the life exposed in the pile. The friend’s mother came by to take her daughter to the mall. She exclaimed but “Mr. Wilson is turning the compost.”
                      The mother convinced the girl to shop and as you predicted she is now more interested in shopping than nature.

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                      • westerninfidels@mefi.socialW westerninfidels@mefi.social

                        @futurebird I have a modest proposal

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                        #11

                        @WesternInfidels

                        OMG

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                        • jakobtougaard@mastodon.onlineJ jakobtougaard@mastodon.online

                          @futurebird I am often surprised how little time most kids spend looking at an insect shown to them, but as soon as you give it another name than "bug" or "beetle" and point out to them for example that it is a longhorn beetle and you can see on the antennas why it is called this, they get exited. The best comes later (minutes, days) when you can overhear the child teaching other kids that this is a longhorn beetle and why 😁.
                          Kids want to learn and they have a right to know 🤗

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                          #12

                          @jakobtougaard @futurebird same with trees. Or lots of things in fact! If you are interested in the details the kids will be too.

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                          • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                            Another not totally obvious thing I've learned when teaching young people (and some adults...) about insects is that when you show them a photo of an insect it helps to point out "this is her head, her eyes are right here, she is eating nectar in this photo"

                            Sometimes people who don't look at bugs often don't understand which end is which. I've gotten the reaction "oooh! she's cute" after explaining this so often that I'm convinced it's important.

                            Otherwise it's just a jumble of legs!

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                            #13

                            @futurebird@sauropods.win right it's interesting I grew up with Cricket Magazine and The Magic Schoolbus and Clan Apis so I was pretty used to perceiving insects as like, animal characters, and sometimes I gotta remember that other people did not

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                            • westerninfidels@mefi.socialW westerninfidels@mefi.social

                              @futurebird I have a modest proposal

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                              @WesternInfidels @futurebird HaHaHaHaHa!!

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                              • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                The way that you, as an adult, react to creatures has a massive impact on young people watching you.

                                If you scream when you see a bee, they will scream too. After all you have survived in this world much longer than they have and you are scared, so they need to be scared too.

                                Even if you are scared you can model better reactions. And it works really well.

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                                #15

                                @futurebird "See the round pupils? Definitely not a pit viper." (Puts it down gently, flails hands, makes face.) "They do kind poo on ya though."

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                                • ophis@brain.worm.pinkO ophis@brain.worm.pink
                                  @futurebird i'm yet again reminded of 2 things:

                                  1. a tumblr post i can no longer find where bogleech described cockroaches as "deerlike"

                                  2. this bit from That Hideous Strength, which frankly i found far more valuable wrt small animals than the human relations it's "supposed" to be about:

                                  > And Jane sat still till the room became filled with silence like a solid thing and there was first a scratching and then a rustling and presently she saw three plump mice working their passage across what was to them the thick undergrowth of the carpet, nosing this way and that so that if their course had been drawn it would have resembled that of a winding river, until they were so close that she could see the twinkling of their eyes and even the palpitation of their noses. In spite of what she had said she did not really care for mice in the neighbourhood of her feet and it was with an effort that she sat still. Thanks to this effort she saw mice for the first time as they really are--not as creeping things but as dainty quadrupeds, almost, when they sat up, like tiny kangaroos, with sensitive kid-gloved forepaws and transparent ears. With quick, inaudible movements they ranged to and fro till not a crumb was left on the floor. Then he blew a second time on his whistle and with a sudden whisk of tails all three of them were racing for home and in a few seconds had disappeared behind the coal box.
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                                  #16

                                  @ophis

                                  "a tumblr post i can no longer find where bogleech described cockroaches as "deerlike"

                                  Yeah that tracts. They are harmless, hapless, easily startled.

                                  But also if there is nothing eating them or conditions they like too much? You can end up with too many and it's a problem.

                                  They can't bite, can't sting, can't do anything but run or fly in front of you causing a massive accident.

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                                  • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                    The way that you, as an adult, react to creatures has a massive impact on young people watching you.

                                    If you scream when you see a bee, they will scream too. After all you have survived in this world much longer than they have and you are scared, so they need to be scared too.

                                    Even if you are scared you can model better reactions. And it works really well.

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                                    #17

                                    @futurebird

                                    its godawful hard tho.

                                    I tried with all of my kids but only succeeded with my youngest and only with things that arent roaches.

                                    Im 90% sure the roach phobia I have has to do with some traumatic child incidents and learned fear from observing parents.

                                    Also heavily agree about the giving kids facts or info about the things makes them less spooky.

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                                    • londondreamtime@mastodonapp.ukL londondreamtime@mastodonapp.uk

                                      @jakobtougaard @futurebird same with trees. Or lots of things in fact! If you are interested in the details the kids will be too.

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                                      #18

                                      @londondreamtime @futurebird exactly. My father, who is also a marine biologist, got me interested in #polychaete worms from an early age. We had to invent our own names, as they had only Latin names. My favourites were the green rubber band worm and the red rubber band worm 😁

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                                      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                        Another not totally obvious thing I've learned when teaching young people (and some adults...) about insects is that when you show them a photo of an insect it helps to point out "this is her head, her eyes are right here, she is eating nectar in this photo"

                                        Sometimes people who don't look at bugs often don't understand which end is which. I've gotten the reaction "oooh! she's cute" after explaining this so often that I'm convinced it's important.

                                        Otherwise it's just a jumble of legs!

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                                        #19

                                        @futurebird 1/2
                                        when I took Human Computer Interaction in college, our professor spent an entire section, with several research papers as assigned reading on how important it is to explain to new users of an interface what things are, where they are expected to look for what, and so forth, even if it seems obvious.

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                                        • llewelly@sauropods.winL llewelly@sauropods.win

                                          @futurebird 1/2
                                          when I took Human Computer Interaction in college, our professor spent an entire section, with several research papers as assigned reading on how important it is to explain to new users of an interface what things are, where they are expected to look for what, and so forth, even if it seems obvious.

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                                          #20

                                          @futurebird 2/2
                                          There was even a paper on the Dorling Kindersley educational books for children, then infamous for having "swarms of pointless obvious labels everywhere", which showed that, actually, the labels on seemingly obvious things WERE helpful, not just for children, but for college age adults and working professionals.

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