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  3. RT if you want a CLEAR statement about AI from all GNU/Linux distributions and are ready to quit any distribution that is ok with integrating AI slopware.

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  • shaft@piaille.frS shaft@piaille.fr

    @ParadeGrotesque @breizh @Khrys Anyway: you have your AI-Free kernel. Nice. Then all the softwares that will run on this kernel, ranging from the shell to the web browser have to be AI-free 😬

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    #25

    @shaft

    BSD user land (shell, utilities, etc.) is part of the distribution, and is often created and maintained by the same developers as the kernel.

    So no AI there either.

    Which means BSDs, in general, are more consistent and have slightly lighter utilities than Linux.

    For example: ksh is usually a version of pdksh, and is maintained by several developers from all 3 major BSDs (if I remember well).

    @breizh @Khrys

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    • dallo@pouet.chapril.orgD dallo@pouet.chapril.org

      @Khrys
      Btw if you didn't see it yet, there is a list of projects that pledged not to use AI or are disrupting it https://noai.starlightnet.work/list.html

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      #26

      @dallo @Khrys Go Inkscape! 👏💃🕺@doctormo

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      • breizh@pleroma.breizh.pmB breizh@pleroma.breizh.pm

        @shaft@piaille.fr @Khrys@mamot.fr There you have.

        https://docs.kernel.org/process/coding-assistants.html

        Time to switch to BSD ? Well, I don’t know their position.

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        #27

        RE: https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/@grahamperrin/116220642823558416

        @breizh re: Linux, thank you for providing the missing link to docs.kernel.org.

        There are multiple BSD distros.

        For FreeBSD, the quoted post might help.

        cc @ParadeGrotesque

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        • dallo@pouet.chapril.orgD dallo@pouet.chapril.org

          @Khrys
          Since I read that systemd is going to include slop, a lot of them is concern

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          @dallo @Khrys I just saw elementary OS on the list, but they do use systemD so we will see what happens. If the Wayland session can be refined a bit more I could run it, but I do miss having an actual desktop with icons.

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          • khrys@mamot.frK khrys@mamot.fr

            RT if you want a CLEAR statement about AI from all GNU/Linux distributions and are ready to quit any distribution that is ok with integrating AI slopware.

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            #29
            @Khrys why? For security concerns? For ethical reasons?
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            • milagemayvary@mstdn.socialM milagemayvary@mstdn.social

              @fmasy @Khrys

              AFAIK GNU doesn't, got a source?

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              #30

              @milagemayvary @fmasy @Khrys

              GNU Guix has its own init system, so wouldn't be immediately scuppered by the contrary position of systemd.

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              • khrys@mamot.frK khrys@mamot.fr

                RT if you want a CLEAR statement about AI from all GNU/Linux distributions and are ready to quit any distribution that is ok with integrating AI slopware.

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                #31

                @Khrys It's Linux. And yes.

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                • i@toot.pouyan.netI i@toot.pouyan.net
                  @Khrys why? For security concerns? For ethical reasons?
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                  #32

                  @i

                  'Now we come to the third and final novel AI psychosis, the critics' psychosis, that AI is an abnormally terrible technology. This is a species of "criti-hype," which is when critics repeat the hyped-up claims of the companies they're targeting, but as criticism'

                  https://pluralistic.net/2026/03/12/normal-technology/#bubble-exceptionalism

                  @Khrys

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                  • dallo@pouet.chapril.orgD dallo@pouet.chapril.org

                    @Khrys
                    Since I read that systemd is going to include slop, a lot of them is concern

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                    @dallo @Khrys That ship sailed a long time ago. Systemd has always been slop. To the point of actually proposing changes to the kernel command line to hack around bugs in systemd rather than fix them, which earned quite the colorful response from Linus.

                    But that's what is widely used so ... well, whatever. I figure if that's how you be you may as well use AI. Do the JIRA shuffle on fast forward.

                    vOv

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                    • milagemayvary@mstdn.socialM milagemayvary@mstdn.social

                      @fmasy @Khrys

                      AFAIK GNU doesn't, got a source?

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                      #34

                      @milagemayvary @Khrys

                      Source that Linux kernel project may receive AI-assisted contributions ?

                      I cannot point to an example of such a contribution but at least the documentation indicates that it is now explicitely allowed:

                      https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v7.0-rc1/process/coding-assistants.html

                      (github source:
                      https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst)

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                      • fmasy@piaille.frF fmasy@piaille.fr

                        @milagemayvary @Khrys

                        Source that Linux kernel project may receive AI-assisted contributions ?

                        I cannot point to an example of such a contribution but at least the documentation indicates that it is now explicitely allowed:

                        https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v7.0-rc1/process/coding-assistants.html

                        (github source:
                        https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst)

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                        #35

                        @fmasy

                        I'm familiar with the contributions to the kernel Linux, but the GNU utilities I don't believe is in the same situation.

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