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  • frankaulux@polyglot.cityF frankaulux@polyglot.city

    @humanhorseshoes @_elena

    Well not sure they are so clueless, since the EU institutions have had their own mastodon instances for a while.
    The Commission, the Parliament and the Court of Justice all have an instance.

    I think it is more a case of the right hand not knowing what the left hand does, ie politician answering before consulting the tech guys.
    But we'll see.
    Luckily (in this case) things go slow and we have time to alter the course.

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    #39

    @FrankauLux @_elena but they closed it, I deal with EU institutions all the time and they have no imagination or worldly knowledge. Estonia has the digital society they bullshit us about and this is the social network but no the have to make it as unworkable as possible. All regulation and no action, we have feet of clay and at the same time tolerate complete lawlessness when it comes to third country digital networks using the EU with no heed to any laws

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    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

      Dear Fedi friends,

      I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

      The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

      Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

      0xtero@ohai.social0 This user is from outside of this forum
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      #40

      @_elena I don’t think it’s worth the effort. Couple of people announced some vaporware launch and press lazily took it as ”Europes answer” to US social media without a second thought about how ridiculous that statement is. Let them build. Spend your energy on something more productive (improving fedi) instead. Press hype will die after couple of minutes of fame.

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      • 0xtero@ohai.social0 0xtero@ohai.social

        @_elena I don’t think it’s worth the effort. Couple of people announced some vaporware launch and press lazily took it as ”Europes answer” to US social media without a second thought about how ridiculous that statement is. Let them build. Spend your energy on something more productive (improving fedi) instead. Press hype will die after couple of minutes of fame.

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        #41

        @0xtero I found out some really disturbing things about this initiative and I don't want to stay silent. I may write a blog post about it, collecting and sharing the evidence... so that if people appreciate what I write, they could point others to it (people looking at the initiative with interest or journalists for example).

        And hey I grabbed a domain name that is PERFECT as a short URL / to redirect to my article. Sometimes staying silent on these things is dangerous

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        • juergen@hello.jyrgi.deJ juergen@hello.jyrgi.de

          @_elena
          Regarding domain name grabbing: I don’t think this is worth it. I would wonder if they haven’t already reserved the domains they are going to use before the announcement. So that’s likely a waste of money.

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          #42

          @juergen they've been so myopic about the whole thing that they forgot to register some key domain names.

          I grabbed one this morning and some of my followers did the same yesterday and told me about it.

          This is resistance at work 🤗

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          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

            Dear Fedi friends,

            I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

            The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

            Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

            zeroase@fosstodon.orgZ This user is from outside of this forum
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            #43

            @_elena I'd say let's wait and see if anyone still remembers this ominous letter platform in a week.

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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              @juergen they've been so myopic about the whole thing that they forgot to register some key domain names.

              I grabbed one this morning and some of my followers did the same yesterday and told me about it.

              This is resistance at work 🤗

              bitzero@corteximplant.netB This user is from outside of this forum
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              #44
              @_elena
              This is a sane cyberpunk attitude: take the mainstream narrative and turn it against its intended goals.
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              • humanhorseshoes@mastodon.worldH humanhorseshoes@mastodon.world

                @FrankauLux @_elena but they closed it, I deal with EU institutions all the time and they have no imagination or worldly knowledge. Estonia has the digital society they bullshit us about and this is the social network but no the have to make it as unworkable as possible. All regulation and no action, we have feet of clay and at the same time tolerate complete lawlessness when it comes to third country digital networks using the EU with no heed to any laws

                frankaulux@polyglot.cityF This user is from outside of this forum
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                frankaulux@polyglot.city
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #45

                @humanhorseshoes @_elena

                I think you've been misinformed. It has not been closed and they have 145k followers:

                @EUCommission

                @Curia

                can't find the parliament a the moment.
                It is clear from your post that you don't like the EU institutions, but they are on mastodon.
                That's a fact.
                have a nice day.

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                • frankaulux@polyglot.cityF frankaulux@polyglot.city

                  @humanhorseshoes @_elena

                  I think you've been misinformed. It has not been closed and they have 145k followers:

                  @EUCommission

                  @Curia

                  can't find the parliament a the moment.
                  It is clear from your post that you don't like the EU institutions, but they are on mastodon.
                  That's a fact.
                  have a nice day.

                  humanhorseshoes@mastodon.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
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                  humanhorseshoes@mastodon.world
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                  #46

                  @FrankauLux @_elena @EUCommission @Curia As an EU citizen who speaks English by the way so no categorising me as British or American with a gripe, we should demand more and get more engagement and practical engagement from the European Union. I have voted yes to all eU referendums in my country including the 1992 Maastricht one and what do we get from the EU? "Go home, we think you're British." Not good enough.

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                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                    Dear Fedi friends,

                    I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

                    The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

                    Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

                    naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #47

                    @_elena You can grab the domains but will it be worth the energy?
                    You know who controls most of the French media and how little credibility they have left. I would not base my work on theirs – and I am a journalist (not for French media) living in France. 😉
                    It's like the question: Do politicians waste energy to fight the so-called "Peace's Board" or do they fight for peace structures like the UN and reforming them?
                    Do we fight blown up "alternatives" or do we fight *for* our visions?

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                    • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                      @_elena You can grab the domains but will it be worth the energy?
                      You know who controls most of the French media and how little credibility they have left. I would not base my work on theirs – and I am a journalist (not for French media) living in France. 😉
                      It's like the question: Do politicians waste energy to fight the so-called "Peace's Board" or do they fight for peace structures like the UN and reforming them?
                      Do we fight blown up "alternatives" or do we fight *for* our visions?

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                      #48

                      @NatureMC I'm planning to write a blog post about it - I'm pretty strong at the SEO game and I'd like to write an article with evidence that people can easily find / refer to.

                      I only grabbed one domain name for 4 Euros... some awesome fedi people have grabbed other TLD in the same spirit.

                      An article I wrote years ago on my blog exposing a big company still gets lots of hits - a decade later!

                      I simply can't stay silent on this...

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                      • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

                        @_elena in my opinion, it's a waste of energy. I'd rather focus bringing more politicians here

                        https://leavex.eu/politicians

                        https://social.vivaldi.net/@everton137/115943237711423792

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                        #49

                        @everton137 👍 @_elena

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                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                          @NatureMC I'm planning to write a blog post about it - I'm pretty strong at the SEO game and I'd like to write an article with evidence that people can easily find / refer to.

                          I only grabbed one domain name for 4 Euros... some awesome fedi people have grabbed other TLD in the same spirit.

                          An article I wrote years ago on my blog exposing a big company still gets lots of hits - a decade later!

                          I simply can't stay silent on this...

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                          #50

                          @_elena This I understand completely, do it!
                          My comment was more if you plan a big long lasting campaign ...

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                          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                            Dear Fedi friends,

                            I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

                            The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

                            Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

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                            #51

                            @_elena I voted yes. But maybe it would be better to put energy into making the fediverse more accessible. Even to my medium tech savy friends, the fact that you have to choose a server is complicated. So either they choose the default one or they don’t join because they don't see the point in all these different servers (lots of people are lazy to read and be interested). Your introduction was really nice but we might need more ‘tutorials’/why? video's or texts.

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                            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                              Dear Fedi friends,

                              I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

                              The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

                              Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

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                              #52

                              @_elena https://www.reddit.com/r/japanese/comments/brwidu/why_do_some_japanese_sentences_have_wwwwwww_on/

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                              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                @joakimfors OMG this is BRILLIANT! 😂

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                                #53

                                @_elena @joakimfors wsocial.social is available 😁

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                                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                  @0xtero I found out some really disturbing things about this initiative and I don't want to stay silent. I may write a blog post about it, collecting and sharing the evidence... so that if people appreciate what I write, they could point others to it (people looking at the initiative with interest or journalists for example).

                                  And hey I grabbed a domain name that is PERFECT as a short URL / to redirect to my article. Sometimes staying silent on these things is dangerous

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                                  #54

                                  @_elena Ok, now I'm intrigued and want to know the details 🙂 I just hate how this was branded as "European answer" by the press, like it would be official EU project - when it clearly was just attention grab by some limelight hungry random CEO. Luckily it doesn't seem to have had much news value (papers in Sweden didn't pick it up)

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                                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                    Dear Fedi friends,

                                    I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

                                    The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

                                    Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

                                    fmors@fosstodon.orgF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #55

                                    @_elena to be very honest, I think you can drive that energy towards something more constructive. Too bad that Fediverse gets only crickets in terms of press attention, but it is what it is. We are growing. Less than others, but who cares? It is about quality, not quantity.

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                                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                      Dear Fedi friends,

                                      I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

                                      The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

                                      Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

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                                      #56

                                      @_elena In the name of @blogg I allergy sent them a open letter telling them how stupid this idea is. An I published it at the same blog. Sense it is the Swedish government authority, Integritetsskyddsmyndigheten, I did write it in Swedish.

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                                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                        Dear Fedi friends,

                                        I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

                                        The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

                                        Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

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                                        #57

                                        @_elena buy domains and put your video. I can chip in!

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                                        • 0xtero@ohai.social0 0xtero@ohai.social

                                          @_elena Ok, now I'm intrigued and want to know the details 🙂 I just hate how this was branded as "European answer" by the press, like it would be official EU project - when it clearly was just attention grab by some limelight hungry random CEO. Luckily it doesn't seem to have had much news value (papers in Sweden didn't pick it up)

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                                          #58

                                          @0xtero there are allegedly links to the Swedish right (that would explain the requirement of IDs to post). Still researching the claims

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