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  • nilajones@zeroes.caN nilajones@zeroes.ca

    Request for de-googling advice:

    I have thousands, maybe 10,000, locations saved in google maps. Mostly these are informal camping sites, not things that can be found by a web search

    Is there a way I can transfer these to a different, friendlier, map service?

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    #10

    @NilaJones I like caltopo a lot for anything outdoorsy, but it could get tedious with that many sites since you probably wouldn’t want to just dump them all on a single map. It’s also proprietary/non-free, in case that’s a factor.

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    • nilajones@zeroes.caN nilajones@zeroes.ca

      Request for de-googling advice:

      I have thousands, maybe 10,000, locations saved in google maps. Mostly these are informal camping sites, not things that can be found by a web search

      Is there a way I can transfer these to a different, friendlier, map service?

      juergen_hubert@mementomori.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
      juergen_hubert@mementomori.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #11

      @NilaJones

      I dunno about exporting them, but as for a "kindlier map service" I recommend #Leaflet - I have been doing some interactive maps with it recently:

      https://wiki.sunkencastles.com/wiki/Main_Page
      https://sunkencastles.com/german-folklore-map/

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      • jonben@social.spejset.orgJ jonben@social.spejset.org

        @NilaJones Maybe keep your Google account just for those and build a website to start telling people about those camp sites while also adding them to OSM? Don't know if OSM supports camp sites but I'd like to find out.

        juergen_hubert@mementomori.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        #12

        @jonben @NilaJones

        It's possible to do custom OSM-based maps with Leaflet, which should work with most websites.

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        • nilajones@zeroes.caN nilajones@zeroes.ca

          Request for de-googling advice:

          I have thousands, maybe 10,000, locations saved in google maps. Mostly these are informal camping sites, not things that can be found by a web search

          Is there a way I can transfer these to a different, friendlier, map service?

          tsherrygeo@m.ai6yr.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
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          #13

          @NilaJones caltopo.com is a great mapping site.

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          • nilajones@zeroes.caN nilajones@zeroes.ca

            Request for de-googling advice:

            I have thousands, maybe 10,000, locations saved in google maps. Mostly these are informal camping sites, not things that can be found by a web search

            Is there a way I can transfer these to a different, friendlier, map service?

            rnd@toot.catR This user is from outside of this forum
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            #14

            @NilaJones my guess is find some tool that exports the list of places into the GPX format, like this? https://www.takeout-tools.com/blog/google-maps-saved-places-to-gpx-guide

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            • nilajones@zeroes.caN nilajones@zeroes.ca

              Request for de-googling advice:

              I have thousands, maybe 10,000, locations saved in google maps. Mostly these are informal camping sites, not things that can be found by a web search

              Is there a way I can transfer these to a different, friendlier, map service?

              pneumaculturist@hcommons.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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              #15

              @NilaJones
              I'd be interested co know this too...

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              • nilajones@zeroes.caN nilajones@zeroes.ca

                Request for de-googling advice:

                I have thousands, maybe 10,000, locations saved in google maps. Mostly these are informal camping sites, not things that can be found by a web search

                Is there a way I can transfer these to a different, friendlier, map service?

                jfmezei@cosocial.caJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                #16

                @NilaJones If you have locations saved in Google (waypoints as opposed to routes or tracks),

                Maps -> menu icon -> Your Data in Maps (opens in new page)
                Donwload your Maps Data -> (opens in new page)

                You can download "Maps (your places geojson ) and "My Maps" (kmz)

                The app GPSBabel can convert from different formats and you can then import into whatever new service you have chosen. You can unzip KMZ into KML if this is what they accept.

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                • jfmezei@cosocial.caJ jfmezei@cosocial.ca

                  @NilaJones If you have locations saved in Google (waypoints as opposed to routes or tracks),

                  Maps -> menu icon -> Your Data in Maps (opens in new page)
                  Donwload your Maps Data -> (opens in new page)

                  You can download "Maps (your places geojson ) and "My Maps" (kmz)

                  The app GPSBabel can convert from different formats and you can then import into whatever new service you have chosen. You can unzip KMZ into KML if this is what they accept.

                  nilajones@zeroes.caN This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @jfmezei

                  Oh beautiful, that Babel app sounds exactly what I need! Thank you!

                  @pneumaculturist

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                  • rnd@toot.catR rnd@toot.cat

                    @NilaJones my guess is find some tool that exports the list of places into the GPX format, like this? https://www.takeout-tools.com/blog/google-maps-saved-places-to-gpx-guide

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                    @rnd

                    Yeah that's not the problem. The problem is what to do with the data after downloading it. But someone else had the solution!

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                    • nilajones@zeroes.caN nilajones@zeroes.ca

                      Request for de-googling advice:

                      I have thousands, maybe 10,000, locations saved in google maps. Mostly these are informal camping sites, not things that can be found by a web search

                      Is there a way I can transfer these to a different, friendlier, map service?

                      jfmezei@cosocial.caJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #19

                      @NilaJones
                      Waypoints: a specific point (latitude, long, possibly elevation, along with name, comment etc). EG: Google calls them "Placemarks")

                      Route: A set of waypoints between A and B (where A and B are waypoints)

                      Track: a set of lat/lon/elevation and time that were captured by a GPS during a trip. (linestring)

                      To understand the data you will be getting from Google:
                      https://developers.google.com/kml/documentation/kmlreference

                      geojson:
                      https://geojson.org/
                      https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7946

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                      • nilajones@zeroes.caN nilajones@zeroes.ca

                        Request for de-googling advice:

                        I have thousands, maybe 10,000, locations saved in google maps. Mostly these are informal camping sites, not things that can be found by a web search

                        Is there a way I can transfer these to a different, friendlier, map service?

                        jfmezei@cosocial.caJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @NilaJones I am from Garmin religion, so use Garmin Basecamp. You can load their proprietary maps ($). Or you can have openstreetmaps generate a file in Garmin's format that can be imported into basecamp. You can have your database of points, routes etc on your computer.

                        Garmin uses the "standard" GPX formats. But I think it can import/export Google's KML (KML , like arcgis use longtitude, latitude while rest of world uses standard latitude,longitude).

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                        • jfmezei@cosocial.caJ jfmezei@cosocial.ca

                          @NilaJones
                          Waypoints: a specific point (latitude, long, possibly elevation, along with name, comment etc). EG: Google calls them "Placemarks")

                          Route: A set of waypoints between A and B (where A and B are waypoints)

                          Track: a set of lat/lon/elevation and time that were captured by a GPS during a trip. (linestring)

                          To understand the data you will be getting from Google:
                          https://developers.google.com/kml/documentation/kmlreference

                          geojson:
                          https://geojson.org/
                          https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7946

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                          @jfmezei

                          The locations I have are not GPS derived, and are not routes. I guess that means they are waypoints???

                          I created them by clicking each spot on the map, on my phone, when I was NOT at the location

                          Does that make sense? It's kind of hard to describe clearly!

                          Google allows these spots to be labeled with categories. I have maybe seven categories

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                          • nilajones@zeroes.caN nilajones@zeroes.ca

                            @jfmezei

                            Oh beautiful, that Babel app sounds exactly what I need! Thank you!

                            @pneumaculturist

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                            @NilaJones @jfmezei
                            I'm really grateful to see that.
                            Hoping that it'll work in open maps (almost certain it will) when I get onto that task later...

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                            • nilajones@zeroes.caN nilajones@zeroes.ca

                              Request for de-googling advice:

                              I have thousands, maybe 10,000, locations saved in google maps. Mostly these are informal camping sites, not things that can be found by a web search

                              Is there a way I can transfer these to a different, friendlier, map service?

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                              @NilaJones put them on openstreetmap?

                              #openstreetmap

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                              • nilajones@zeroes.caN nilajones@zeroes.ca

                                @rnd

                                Yeah that's not the problem. The problem is what to do with the data after downloading it. But someone else had the solution!

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                                @NilaJones oh, i'm sorry then

                                good to hear someone provided the solution though

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                                • nilajones@zeroes.caN nilajones@zeroes.ca

                                  @jfmezei

                                  The locations I have are not GPS derived, and are not routes. I guess that means they are waypoints???

                                  I created them by clicking each spot on the map, on my phone, when I was NOT at the location

                                  Does that make sense? It's kind of hard to describe clearly!

                                  Google allows these spots to be labeled with categories. I have maybe seven categories

                                  jfmezei@cosocial.caJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #25

                                  @NilaJones If they are individual points, they are most likely waypoints (placemarks in Google language). The categories are likely not transferable because theya re akin to folders.

                                  If you export to kmz , unzip it to KML and edit a file you will likely see each item begins with a <placemark> tag.

                                  (image is an example placemark wlots of options including location of "camera" (the lookAt tag) when you view it from Google Earth).

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                                  • jfmezei@cosocial.caJ jfmezei@cosocial.ca

                                    @NilaJones If they are individual points, they are most likely waypoints (placemarks in Google language). The categories are likely not transferable because theya re akin to folders.

                                    If you export to kmz , unzip it to KML and edit a file you will likely see each item begins with a <placemark> tag.

                                    (image is an example placemark wlots of options including location of "camera" (the lookAt tag) when you view it from Google Earth).

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                                    @jfmezei

                                    I won't mind too much if they don't have the labels anymore, as long as I don't have to go through thousands of individual items and delete the label markers in order to get the data to upload

                                    It's late night here and I am tired and I don't even want to think about that possibility!

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