update regarding my librewolf openbsd port: everything i said earlier about mozilla's allocator is a load of bollocks.

[libreleah@mas.to]

because librewofl uses a mozconfig, the cli-based configure options in www/mozilla-firefox are useless for librewolf.

but i can't just patch mozconfig, because variables like e.g. $PREFIX are used by openbsd ports.

what i have to do then: put a custom mozconfig is files/

have e.g. @PREFIX@ in there, and sed search/replace with the variable

do this in pre-configure, in the Makefile. that's my next job.

yes. i *will* tame this ungodly build system.

[libreleah@mas.to]

there is a lot of overlap. openbsd's firefox port already adds a bunch of hardened autoconf (./configure) options, that librewolf also does. librewolf and openbsd are two peas in a pod.

it baffles me that nobody tried porting librewolf before i did. i mean, someone did, but i'm unsure if they sent it to openbsd. they simply maintained a package repo themselves, but stopped after obsd 7.1

i couldn't find their sources anymore, so i started from scratch, with my own fresh librewolf port.

[simonzerafa@infosec.exchange]

@libreleah

Wow. Nice!

I do need to try one of the BSD's one day.

Which one would be better for someone unfamiliar with this OS?

[libreleah@mas.to]

@simonzerafa all the BSDs are great, but openbsd is my favourite one, because it's the easiest one to use in my opinion. they simplify a lot of of options and remove a lot of knobs, and they just make everything as generally efficient as possible. i don't want to have to think about my operating system, i just want everything important to already be done for me - especially security-related things, which openbsd excels at.

openbsd has some limitations that do not concern *me* personally. ymmv.

[simonzerafa@infosec.exchange]

@libreleah

Cool. Is GhostBSD with a look or best avoided?

Thanks for the information

[libreleah@mas.to]

@simonzerafa GhostBSD uses xlibre, which is maintained by someone who doesn't know how the bitshift operator works in C, or how it differs to XOR, so no, i wouldn't use ghostBSD at all.

[hyc@mastodon.social]

@libreleah been there, done that. It used to be even worse! http://highlandsun.com/hyc/#mozilla

Just posting to say "I know your pain". Wrestling with disabling jemalloc so I could do proper memory leak detection, shudder.

Good luck...

[simonzerafa@infosec.exchange]

@libreleah

Oh, dear. Well I did learn that in entry Computer Science classes in 1984 so seems best avoided then

[pitrh@mastodon.social]

@simonzerafa @libreleah it depends. I prefer OpenBSD (see eg https://blog.apnic.net/2021/10/28/openbsd-part-1-how-it-all-started/ and so on), but for someone with no unixlikes experience macOS is less intimidating and BSDish enough for a lot of purposes.

I'm not *against* FreeBSD and its derivatives but I find OpenBSD easier to deal with for *my* purposes.

And https://nxdomain.no/~peter/openbsd_installed_now_for_the_daily_tasks.html for a bit of the day to day care and feeding (also since it's near release time).

[libreleah@mas.to]

@simonzerafa also xlibre is maintained by neo-nazis (they repeatedly say racist shit on their github, and xlibre's maintainer literally posted on the devuan mailing list expressing support for nazis in 2018).

so even if xlibre was maintained by technically literate people, which it isn't, they're also nazis. so even then, i still wouldn't use GhostBSD

xlibre is a fork of xorg btw. i initially got excited about the prospect when it first came out, until i learned that they're all neo-nazis.