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  3. The fun of Saturday morning science is over, so it's on to the business of the day #EndOf10 and the opportunity to convert the teenager's laptop to linux mint.

The fun of Saturday morning science is over, so it's on to the business of the day #EndOf10 and the opportunity to convert the teenager's laptop to linux mint.

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  • ruth_mottram@fediscience.orgR ruth_mottram@fediscience.org

    Ok the second time worked - and the file has been verified. Thank heavens I have my own linux machine. Would be a nightmare to do this on Windows I suspect...
    Now to make the bootable drive.

    It's at least 6 years since I did this last time. Crumbs.

    9/n

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    #13

    Ok, resolved some etcher problems - ubuntu is fast with this stuff - seems to be flashing the bootable driver now.. 🤞

    Also found some very cool photos from a trip 10 years ago and some ideas for new projects, also about 7 yeasr old on the USB stick - so that's a win.
    10/n

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    • ruth_mottram@fediscience.orgR ruth_mottram@fediscience.org

      Ok, resolved some etcher problems - ubuntu is fast with this stuff - seems to be flashing the bootable driver now.. 🤞

      Also found some very cool photos from a trip 10 years ago and some ideas for new projects, also about 7 yeasr old on the USB stick - so that's a win.
      10/n

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      #14

      Moment of truth time - I have a bootable usb stick. Etcher was veyr fast I'm pretty sure the backup of the laptop worked. But teenager may be about to hate me forever.

      Let's see... 🤞

      11/n

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      • ruth_mottram@fediscience.orgR ruth_mottram@fediscience.org

        Moment of truth time - I have a bootable usb stick. Etcher was veyr fast I'm pretty sure the backup of the laptop worked. But teenager may be about to hate me forever.

        Let's see... 🤞

        11/n

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        #15

        Well I'm in the BIOS finally. Man I'd almost forgotten this existed...

        An LM logo has appeared, but now it's all gone dark... 😬

        Oh wait I do believe we are live...

        It's time to Install linux mint

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        • ruth_mottram@fediscience.orgR ruth_mottram@fediscience.org

          Well I'm in the BIOS finally. Man I'd almost forgotten this existed...

          An LM logo has appeared, but now it's all gone dark... 😬

          Oh wait I do believe we are live...

          It's time to Install linux mint

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          #16

          Teenager has just suggested some of the programs, which I was under the impression were via the browser, may need to be on desktop.
          This might mean Wine I guess?
          And probably some kind of microsoft office install? I was hoping to get away with libreoffice..

          Anybody have any experience with wine?
          I will in any case have to contact the IT support at the school I think. I hope I am not the only parent doing so with the #EndOf10 .

          Meanwhile, over on the laptop, the Linux Mint is installed (in danish even) and seems to be restarting without the USB
          holding breath here...
          🤞

          13/n

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          • ruth_mottram@fediscience.orgR ruth_mottram@fediscience.org

            Teenager has just suggested some of the programs, which I was under the impression were via the browser, may need to be on desktop.
            This might mean Wine I guess?
            And probably some kind of microsoft office install? I was hoping to get away with libreoffice..

            Anybody have any experience with wine?
            I will in any case have to contact the IT support at the school I think. I hope I am not the only parent doing so with the #EndOf10 .

            Meanwhile, over on the laptop, the Linux Mint is installed (in danish even) and seems to be restarting without the USB
            holding breath here...
            🤞

            13/n

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            #17

            Right tea break time - then we can start optimising the desktop and all the programs as well as moving over the files.

            I guess that is where we will start to run into different problems.


            This linux install is taking a lot longer than I'd hoped (which was probably unrealistic to be fair), but has been pretty smooth so far (once we left microsoft world at least)

            14/n

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            • ruth_mottram@fediscience.orgR ruth_mottram@fediscience.org

              Teenager has just suggested some of the programs, which I was under the impression were via the browser, may need to be on desktop.
              This might mean Wine I guess?
              And probably some kind of microsoft office install? I was hoping to get away with libreoffice..

              Anybody have any experience with wine?
              I will in any case have to contact the IT support at the school I think. I hope I am not the only parent doing so with the #EndOf10 .

              Meanwhile, over on the laptop, the Linux Mint is installed (in danish even) and seems to be restarting without the USB
              holding breath here...
              🤞

              13/n

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              #18

              @Ruth_Mottram I'm just now starting to try out some Linuxes in virtual machines & part of it was looking into Wine - I found something called Bottles, which is apparently a frontend for Wine, and have managed to install my first Windows app with it 😁

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              • kim_harding@mastodon.scotK kim_harding@mastodon.scot

                @Ruth_Mottram
                There is an Unofficial Microsoft Teams client for Linux on both Snap and Flatpak, which I find works surprisingly well (much better than the Official Microsoft version) 😉

                Also I agree with @bert_hubert that public bodies are far too willing to pay the Microsoft tax when procuring IT...

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                #19

                @kim_harding @bert_hubert so here's a thing neither snap not flatpak are standard with mint - I have no idea why - any preference as to which? I use snap on my ubuntu machine so will probably just go with that but I'm surprised to read there is a file called nosnap.pref on mint which blocks it? Any clues why?

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                • ruth_mottram@fediscience.orgR ruth_mottram@fediscience.org

                  @kim_harding @bert_hubert so here's a thing neither snap not flatpak are standard with mint - I have no idea why - any preference as to which? I use snap on my ubuntu machine so will probably just go with that but I'm surprised to read there is a file called nosnap.pref on mint which blocks it? Any clues why?

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                  #20

                  @Ruth_Mottram @kim_harding @bert_hubert

                  "This is a store we can’t audit, which contains software nobody can patch. If we can’t fix or modify software, open-source or not, it provides the same limitations as proprietary software"

                  https://linuxmint-user-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/snap.html

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                  • ruth_mottram@fediscience.orgR ruth_mottram@fediscience.org

                    Right tea break time - then we can start optimising the desktop and all the programs as well as moving over the files.

                    I guess that is where we will start to run into different problems.


                    This linux install is taking a lot longer than I'd hoped (which was probably unrealistic to be fair), but has been pretty smooth so far (once we left microsoft world at least)

                    14/n

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                    #21

                    WELL.
                    We have a newly installed @linuxmint version on an old #EndoOf10 laptop.

                    All user files have been moved across (will require some organisation still, and that alone will be a shock to a GenZ used to just dumping stuff on the cloud - honestly the desktop looked like my parents... 😱 ).

                    Most important programs are there (I had to explain difference between program and app along the way too).

                    And overall it's been a pretty positive learning experience for both of us. I have had to compromise on a few things and teenager has a few programs installed that I'd rather not - but let's see this as a gateway out of #BigTech if at all possible...

                    There will be a few more follow up points I suspect but thanks all for your friendly encouragement and helpful hints so far

                    #MastodonRocks

                    15/n

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                    • ruth_mottram@fediscience.orgR ruth_mottram@fediscience.org

                      WELL.
                      We have a newly installed @linuxmint version on an old #EndoOf10 laptop.

                      All user files have been moved across (will require some organisation still, and that alone will be a shock to a GenZ used to just dumping stuff on the cloud - honestly the desktop looked like my parents... 😱 ).

                      Most important programs are there (I had to explain difference between program and app along the way too).

                      And overall it's been a pretty positive learning experience for both of us. I have had to compromise on a few things and teenager has a few programs installed that I'd rather not - but let's see this as a gateway out of #BigTech if at all possible...

                      There will be a few more follow up points I suspect but thanks all for your friendly encouragement and helpful hints so far

                      #MastodonRocks

                      15/n

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                      #22

                      And that's a wrap - the newly refreshed laptop has been handed over to teen with most of the packages functional. Thanks for following along on this @linuxmint installation journey with me and thanks to all #linux maintainers, forum contributors and FOSS advocates around keeping the system running.

                      👏 WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU!👏

                      The final judgement won't be clear until Monday when the first log in at school happens but hopefully it will be successful, or the IT support is going to have to deal with some very salty comments (from me).
                      16/16

                      FIN

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