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  3. I wish we had spent the last 26 years teaching people that the reason the 2000 bug didn't destroy a significant amount of our infrastructure is because *we caught it* and *spent thousands of hours fixing it* BEFORE the year 2000

I wish we had spent the last 26 years teaching people that the reason the 2000 bug didn't destroy a significant amount of our infrastructure is because *we caught it* and *spent thousands of hours fixing it* BEFORE the year 2000

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  • johnzajac@dice.campJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    I wish we had spent the last 26 years teaching people that the reason the 2000 bug didn't destroy a significant amount of our infrastructure is because *we caught it* and *spent thousands of hours fixing it* BEFORE the year 2000

    Because within that little perplexion - people thinking the problem was a hoax because it was fixed before it destroyed shit - is an encapsulation of the current era of Western politics, including COVID mitigation, lesser evil politics, fascism, and crime rate hyperbole

    __styx__@piaille.fr_ bigheadmode@social.linux.pizzaB brucemirken@mas.toB stanley@heretic.socialS weezmgk@mastodon.socialW 40 Replies Last reply
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      @johnzajac Gotta spend money to make money.

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      • johnzajac@dice.campJ johnzajac@dice.camp

        I wish we had spent the last 26 years teaching people that the reason the 2000 bug didn't destroy a significant amount of our infrastructure is because *we caught it* and *spent thousands of hours fixing it* BEFORE the year 2000

        Because within that little perplexion - people thinking the problem was a hoax because it was fixed before it destroyed shit - is an encapsulation of the current era of Western politics, including COVID mitigation, lesser evil politics, fascism, and crime rate hyperbole

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        #4

        @johnzajac and the fucking ozone layer with the Freon and fluor based home and industry gases that had a swift global ban and recycle ! !

        This is world civilization ending event that we tackled "well" , and because it doesn't have a 10 episodes docu series in Netflix, it never happened or either is a hoax by big "science"

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        • johnzajac@dice.campJ johnzajac@dice.camp

          I wish we had spent the last 26 years teaching people that the reason the 2000 bug didn't destroy a significant amount of our infrastructure is because *we caught it* and *spent thousands of hours fixing it* BEFORE the year 2000

          Because within that little perplexion - people thinking the problem was a hoax because it was fixed before it destroyed shit - is an encapsulation of the current era of Western politics, including COVID mitigation, lesser evil politics, fascism, and crime rate hyperbole

          bigheadmode@social.linux.pizzaB This user is from outside of this forum
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          @johnzajac iirc this episode's argument was that the risk was always overblown. Some countries didn't invest in Y2K mitigation and had no problems.

          You're Wrong About: The Y2K Bug

          https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-y2k-bug/id1380008439?i=1000473519597

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          • johnzajac@dice.campJ johnzajac@dice.camp

            I wish we had spent the last 26 years teaching people that the reason the 2000 bug didn't destroy a significant amount of our infrastructure is because *we caught it* and *spent thousands of hours fixing it* BEFORE the year 2000

            Because within that little perplexion - people thinking the problem was a hoax because it was fixed before it destroyed shit - is an encapsulation of the current era of Western politics, including COVID mitigation, lesser evil politics, fascism, and crime rate hyperbole

            brucemirken@mas.toB This user is from outside of this forum
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            #6

            @johnzajac And now vaccine policy in the U.S.

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            • johnzajac@dice.campJ johnzajac@dice.camp

              I wish we had spent the last 26 years teaching people that the reason the 2000 bug didn't destroy a significant amount of our infrastructure is because *we caught it* and *spent thousands of hours fixing it* BEFORE the year 2000

              Because within that little perplexion - people thinking the problem was a hoax because it was fixed before it destroyed shit - is an encapsulation of the current era of Western politics, including COVID mitigation, lesser evil politics, fascism, and crime rate hyperbole

              stanley@heretic.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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              #7

              @johnzajac Sorry, but I strongly disagree that it's been 26 years since Y2K. It's only been two or three... Right? Right?!?

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              • johnzajac@dice.campJ johnzajac@dice.camp

                I wish we had spent the last 26 years teaching people that the reason the 2000 bug didn't destroy a significant amount of our infrastructure is because *we caught it* and *spent thousands of hours fixing it* BEFORE the year 2000

                Because within that little perplexion - people thinking the problem was a hoax because it was fixed before it destroyed shit - is an encapsulation of the current era of Western politics, including COVID mitigation, lesser evil politics, fascism, and crime rate hyperbole

                weezmgk@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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                #8

                @johnzajac I worked for Compaq/DEC in 98-99, and like the proverbial, 6 days/wk. Validated EVERYTHING even drive mounting hdwe. I'm a bit tetchy with Y2K hoaxers. If you spot somebody with a new one, I might've had something to do with it.

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                • bigheadmode@social.linux.pizzaB bigheadmode@social.linux.pizza

                  @johnzajac iirc this episode's argument was that the risk was always overblown. Some countries didn't invest in Y2K mitigation and had no problems.

                  You're Wrong About: The Y2K Bug

                  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-y2k-bug/id1380008439?i=1000473519597

                  weezmgk@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #9

                  @BigHeadMode yeesh. 🫩 @johnzajac

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                  • johnzajac@dice.campJ johnzajac@dice.camp

                    I wish we had spent the last 26 years teaching people that the reason the 2000 bug didn't destroy a significant amount of our infrastructure is because *we caught it* and *spent thousands of hours fixing it* BEFORE the year 2000

                    Because within that little perplexion - people thinking the problem was a hoax because it was fixed before it destroyed shit - is an encapsulation of the current era of Western politics, including COVID mitigation, lesser evil politics, fascism, and crime rate hyperbole

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                    #10

                    @johnzajac 2038 will be much worse.

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                    • johnzajac@dice.campJ johnzajac@dice.camp

                      I wish we had spent the last 26 years teaching people that the reason the 2000 bug didn't destroy a significant amount of our infrastructure is because *we caught it* and *spent thousands of hours fixing it* BEFORE the year 2000

                      Because within that little perplexion - people thinking the problem was a hoax because it was fixed before it destroyed shit - is an encapsulation of the current era of Western politics, including COVID mitigation, lesser evil politics, fascism, and crime rate hyperbole

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                      #11

                      @johnzajac A lot of real serious problems got fixed… but there was also a lot of utter BS being pedalled too.

                      e.g. http://www.rinkworks.com/stupid/cs_y2k.shtml

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                      • johnzajac@dice.campJ johnzajac@dice.camp

                        I wish we had spent the last 26 years teaching people that the reason the 2000 bug didn't destroy a significant amount of our infrastructure is because *we caught it* and *spent thousands of hours fixing it* BEFORE the year 2000

                        Because within that little perplexion - people thinking the problem was a hoax because it was fixed before it destroyed shit - is an encapsulation of the current era of Western politics, including COVID mitigation, lesser evil politics, fascism, and crime rate hyperbole

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                        #12

                        @johnzajac I spent 2 years 1998-2000 remediating mainframe systems to survive Y2K. No breaks, no holidays and no days off (including weekends). Repaired 7 systems by updating and testing the cobol code then testing testing testing testing ….

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                        • __styx__@piaille.fr_ __styx__@piaille.fr

                          @johnzajac and the fucking ozone layer with the Freon and fluor based home and industry gases that had a swift global ban and recycle ! !

                          This is world civilization ending event that we tackled "well" , and because it doesn't have a 10 episodes docu series in Netflix, it never happened or either is a hoax by big "science"

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                          @__Styx__ @johnzajac Also we fixed acid rain caused by sulphuric acid from coal fired power stations.

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                          • johnzajac@dice.campJ johnzajac@dice.camp

                            I wish we had spent the last 26 years teaching people that the reason the 2000 bug didn't destroy a significant amount of our infrastructure is because *we caught it* and *spent thousands of hours fixing it* BEFORE the year 2000

                            Because within that little perplexion - people thinking the problem was a hoax because it was fixed before it destroyed shit - is an encapsulation of the current era of Western politics, including COVID mitigation, lesser evil politics, fascism, and crime rate hyperbole

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                            #14

                            @johnzajac worthwhile pointing out that many websites displayed an impossible time due to a Y2K issue in Perl. The world did not stop.

                            Also, the consulting companies made out like bandits. They used the concept of Y2K compliance to drive business.

                            Because of that I am always cautious about Y2K as an analogy.

                            burnitdown@beige.partyB johnzajac@dice.campJ dwmalone@mastodon.ieD samanthajanesmith@lgbtqia.spaceS dahukanna@mastodon.socialD 5 Replies Last reply
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                              @johnzajac worthwhile pointing out that many websites displayed an impossible time due to a Y2K issue in Perl. The world did not stop.

                              Also, the consulting companies made out like bandits. They used the concept of Y2K compliance to drive business.

                              Because of that I am always cautious about Y2K as an analogy.

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                              @glent @johnzajac websites were not the concern. it was largely financial systems using COBOL, like taxes and payroll, where not fixing the problem would have caused more serious problems. like maybe nobody gets their paycheque cause the dates are wrong.

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                              • stanley@heretic.socialS stanley@heretic.social

                                @johnzajac Sorry, but I strongly disagree that it's been 26 years since Y2K. It's only been two or three... Right? Right?!?

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                                @stanley @johnzajac maybe ten at the outside

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                                • johnzajac@dice.campJ johnzajac@dice.camp

                                  I wish we had spent the last 26 years teaching people that the reason the 2000 bug didn't destroy a significant amount of our infrastructure is because *we caught it* and *spent thousands of hours fixing it* BEFORE the year 2000

                                  Because within that little perplexion - people thinking the problem was a hoax because it was fixed before it destroyed shit - is an encapsulation of the current era of Western politics, including COVID mitigation, lesser evil politics, fascism, and crime rate hyperbole

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                                  #17

                                  @johnzajac I've been saying myself that disaster avoidance is one of the things where people will shit on you whatever happens

                                  If you succeed and it didn't happen, people will say "you're freaking out over nothing"
                                  If you fail and it did happen, people will say "you're not putting in enough effort to prevent it"

                                  Feels like it makes people to just wait it out until the bad thing actually happens, only then they swoop in so that they may become "heroes", but oftentimes it's too late already

                                  Idk really

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                                  • __styx__@piaille.fr_ __styx__@piaille.fr

                                    @johnzajac and the fucking ozone layer with the Freon and fluor based home and industry gases that had a swift global ban and recycle ! !

                                    This is world civilization ending event that we tackled "well" , and because it doesn't have a 10 episodes docu series in Netflix, it never happened or either is a hoax by big "science"

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                                    @__Styx__ @johnzajac what civilization ending event? with no ozone layer at all we'd have to deal with significantly more skin cancer and cataracts. an issue but not at that scale

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                                    • whitequark@mastodon.socialW whitequark@mastodon.social

                                      @__Styx__ @johnzajac what civilization ending event? with no ozone layer at all we'd have to deal with significantly more skin cancer and cataracts. an issue but not at that scale

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                                      #19

                                      @whitequark@mastodon.social @__Styx__@piaille.fr @johnzajac@dice.camp I think it'd destroy a large part of the biosphere

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                                      • bigheadmode@social.linux.pizzaB bigheadmode@social.linux.pizza

                                        @johnzajac iirc this episode's argument was that the risk was always overblown. Some countries didn't invest in Y2K mitigation and had no problems.

                                        You're Wrong About: The Y2K Bug

                                        https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-y2k-bug/id1380008439?i=1000473519597

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                                        @BigHeadMode @johnzajac Some of the popularly imagined risks were extremely silly, but the risk of significant, prolonged disruption to technically advanced state and commercial capabilities was not at all understated.

                                        The worst things you can say about the prep work are that there was some waste and work done using it as an excuse, because of course there was, and that the work done by most technical businesses allowed some freeloaders to skate by without doing much.

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                                        • whitequark@mastodon.socialW whitequark@mastodon.social

                                          @__Styx__ @johnzajac what civilization ending event? with no ozone layer at all we'd have to deal with significantly more skin cancer and cataracts. an issue but not at that scale

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                                          #21

                                          @whitequark @johnzajac it negatively and in a large but difficult to estimate amount, impact the basis of land and marine food chain.
                                          Plant grows bad or not at all
                                          Phytoplankton diminish or die

                                          https://www.epa.gov/ozone-layer-protection/health-and-environmental-effects-ozone-layer-depletion

                                          Would it kill all living things in 10 years ? Probably not
                                          Will 9 billion humans stay alive and well nourished for centuries ? Probably not

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