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  3. When I copy coordinates in digiKam, it formats the coordinates like:

When I copy coordinates in digiKam, it formats the coordinates like:

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  • ascherbaum@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    When I copy coordinates in digiKam, it formats the coordinates like:

    12,50266°E, 41,91712°N

    But this format is not recognized by OSM, nor Google Maps. Does anyone know if it is possible to change the coordinates format in digiKam?

    #KDE #digiKam #OSM #OpenStreetMap #Photo #Photography

    miallo@mstdn.socialM joe_wiegetritt@mastodontech.deJ anderslund@expressional.socialA waldi@chaos.socialW midor@mastodon.socialM 5 Replies Last reply
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    • ascherbaum@mastodon.socialA ascherbaum@mastodon.social

      When I copy coordinates in digiKam, it formats the coordinates like:

      12,50266°E, 41,91712°N

      But this format is not recognized by OSM, nor Google Maps. Does anyone know if it is possible to change the coordinates format in digiKam?

      #KDE #digiKam #OSM #OpenStreetMap #Photo #Photography

      miallo@mstdn.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @ascherbaum Looks like the issue is the (German) number format with a comma instead of a full stop. I don't know anything about this software, but you probably _could_ change your computer settings to use "." as a numerical separator (which would mess it up if you rely on the German format in other programs…)

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      • ascherbaum@mastodon.socialA ascherbaum@mastodon.social

        When I copy coordinates in digiKam, it formats the coordinates like:

        12,50266°E, 41,91712°N

        But this format is not recognized by OSM, nor Google Maps. Does anyone know if it is possible to change the coordinates format in digiKam?

        #KDE #digiKam #OSM #OpenStreetMap #Photo #Photography

        joe_wiegetritt@mastodontech.deJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @ascherbaum
        try
        41.91712 12.50266 or
        41.91712, 12.50266
        Then you are in Rom.

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        • ascherbaum@mastodon.socialA ascherbaum@mastodon.social

          When I copy coordinates in digiKam, it formats the coordinates like:

          12,50266°E, 41,91712°N

          But this format is not recognized by OSM, nor Google Maps. Does anyone know if it is possible to change the coordinates format in digiKam?

          #KDE #digiKam #OSM #OpenStreetMap #Photo #Photography

          anderslund@expressional.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @ascherbaum
          That is lat, lon. OSM is using lon, lat, so switch them round and then remove the °E/N. As far as digikam, if it is not in the settitngs, it is likely hard to change.

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          • joe_wiegetritt@mastodontech.deJ joe_wiegetritt@mastodontech.de

            @ascherbaum
            try
            41.91712 12.50266 or
            41.91712, 12.50266
            Then you are in Rom.

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            #5

            @Joe_Wiegetritt And how do I get digiKam to give me this format when i right click on the map and copy parameters? I don't want to reformat every single coordinate by hand.

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            • miallo@mstdn.socialM miallo@mstdn.social

              @ascherbaum Looks like the issue is the (German) number format with a comma instead of a full stop. I don't know anything about this software, but you probably _could_ change your computer settings to use "." as a numerical separator (which would mess it up if you rely on the German format in other programs…)

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              #6

              @MiAlLo I somehow expect digiKam to export valid coordinated when I right click on the map and click "copy coordinates". This - in theory - should have nothing to do with any environment settings.

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              • anderslund@expressional.socialA anderslund@expressional.social

                @ascherbaum
                That is lat, lon. OSM is using lon, lat, so switch them round and then remove the °E/N. As far as digikam, if it is not in the settitngs, it is likely hard to change.

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                #7

                @anderslund I don't want to do that manually for every single coordinate or picture I'm working on 😞 That's thousands ...

                I want digiKam to export valid coordinates when I click "copy coordinates" ...

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                • ascherbaum@mastodon.socialA ascherbaum@mastodon.social

                  @anderslund I don't want to do that manually for every single coordinate or picture I'm working on 😞 That's thousands ...

                  I want digiKam to export valid coordinates when I click "copy coordinates" ...

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                  #8

                  @ascherbaum There is software, if you have the data in the image metadata. I believe digikam will insert valid data into the EXIF, there are standards for that. What is it you want to do?

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                  • ascherbaum@mastodon.socialA ascherbaum@mastodon.social

                    @MiAlLo I somehow expect digiKam to export valid coordinated when I right click on the map and click "copy coordinates". This - in theory - should have nothing to do with any environment settings.

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                    #9

                    @ascherbaum It depends on what you mean by "valid coordinates" - they certainly are the valid ones for _your_ locale. The issue is that most programs (in this case OSM and GMaps) are US centric and only considers US number formatting as "correct". So technically digiKam is right here, but Google probably would never fix this. I don't know if there is a way in digiKam to ignore your global locale settings 🤔

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                    • ascherbaum@mastodon.socialA ascherbaum@mastodon.social

                      When I copy coordinates in digiKam, it formats the coordinates like:

                      12,50266°E, 41,91712°N

                      But this format is not recognized by OSM, nor Google Maps. Does anyone know if it is possible to change the coordinates format in digiKam?

                      #KDE #digiKam #OSM #OpenStreetMap #Photo #Photography

                      waldi@chaos.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      @ascherbaum LC_NUMERIC=C or so will just override the number format. But let’s start with a bug report, as it is kind of broken.

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                      • ascherbaum@mastodon.socialA ascherbaum@mastodon.social

                        @Joe_Wiegetritt And how do I get digiKam to give me this format when i right click on the map and copy parameters? I don't want to reformat every single coordinate by hand.

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                        #11

                        @ascherbaum I would first look for ways to change the coordinate format in the camera or in the digiKam settings.

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                        • anderslund@expressional.socialA anderslund@expressional.social

                          @ascherbaum There is software, if you have the data in the image metadata. I believe digikam will insert valid data into the EXIF, there are standards for that. What is it you want to do?

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                          #12

                          @anderslund I'm tagging pictures and for some pictures I don't know where the picture was taken. digiKam shows a map, and the map has a right click: "copy coordinates". That's where the wrong data comes from.

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                          • miallo@mstdn.socialM miallo@mstdn.social

                            @ascherbaum It depends on what you mean by "valid coordinates" - they certainly are the valid ones for _your_ locale. The issue is that most programs (in this case OSM and GMaps) are US centric and only considers US number formatting as "correct". So technically digiKam is right here, but Google probably would never fix this. I don't know if there is a way in digiKam to ignore your global locale settings 🤔

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                            #13

                            @MiAlLo How is digiKam correct if it exports the wrong coordinates in a wrong format?

                            And as for Google: OSM also does not recognize the format.

                            I don't get why digiKam would apply locale settings to coordinates in the first place, and not keep the data in a usable format.

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                            • ascherbaum@mastodon.socialA ascherbaum@mastodon.social

                              @anderslund I'm tagging pictures and for some pictures I don't know where the picture was taken. digiKam shows a map, and the map has a right click: "copy coordinates". That's where the wrong data comes from.

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                              #14

                              @ascherbaum I believe digikam allows you to place the image in the map, and then embed the coordinates in the image metadata, where other apps should be able to read it from.

                              I haven't used digikam for years, but that is how I remember it working.

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                              • joe_wiegetritt@mastodontech.deJ joe_wiegetritt@mastodontech.de

                                @ascherbaum I would first look for ways to change the coordinate format in the camera or in the digiKam settings.

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                                #15

                                @Joe_Wiegetritt That's what I am trying to do, but I don't find an option to change the format in the app. Hence my question.

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                                • anderslund@expressional.socialA anderslund@expressional.social

                                  @ascherbaum I believe digikam allows you to place the image in the map, and then embed the coordinates in the image metadata, where other apps should be able to read it from.

                                  I haven't used digikam for years, but that is how I remember it working.

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                                  #16

                                  @anderslund It does not touch (change) the images, it reads the Exif data and uses the GPS data to place the image on a map it shows in the app. Then I can click anywhere in the map right, and click "copy coordinates". So it's not even the GPS data from the image, but data generated by digiKam, based on the right click.

                                  And the resulting data is broken.

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                                  • ascherbaum@mastodon.socialA ascherbaum@mastodon.social

                                    @anderslund It does not touch (change) the images, it reads the Exif data and uses the GPS data to place the image on a map it shows in the app. Then I can click anywhere in the map right, and click "copy coordinates". So it's not even the GPS data from the image, but data generated by digiKam, based on the right click.

                                    And the resulting data is broken.

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                                    #17

                                    @ascherbaum Yes, I can see that.

                                    The manual says that digikam is able to add coordinates to your images and embed them, see this page: https://docs.digikam.org/en/geolocation_editor/geoeditor_map.html, and the geocoordinates tool page as well.

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                                    • ascherbaum@mastodon.socialA ascherbaum@mastodon.social

                                      @MiAlLo How is digiKam correct if it exports the wrong coordinates in a wrong format?

                                      And as for Google: OSM also does not recognize the format.

                                      I don't get why digiKam would apply locale settings to coordinates in the first place, and not keep the data in a usable format.

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                                      #18

                                      @ascherbaum How do you "correctly" write the number "twenty and a half" in German digits? It is "20,5" (with a comma, not a dot). It doesn't matter if the unit is mm, € or °. Eventually I gave up fighting software with decimal points and changed my locale. You are right - in most software, the _defacto_ standard is a decimal point (because it is US centric). digiKam does the right (but unhelpful) thing and properly adapts to how a _German_ expects the numbers (but not computers)

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                                      • miallo@mstdn.socialM miallo@mstdn.social

                                        @ascherbaum How do you "correctly" write the number "twenty and a half" in German digits? It is "20,5" (with a comma, not a dot). It doesn't matter if the unit is mm, € or °. Eventually I gave up fighting software with decimal points and changed my locale. You are right - in most software, the _defacto_ standard is a decimal point (because it is US centric). digiKam does the right (but unhelpful) thing and properly adapts to how a _German_ expects the numbers (but not computers)

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                                        #19

                                        @MiAlLo Eh, this is not about German digits, why would it be? This is about coordinates. Why would digiKam use a locale setting in the first place, when coordinates do not use locale settings.

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                                        • anderslund@expressional.socialA anderslund@expressional.social

                                          @ascherbaum Yes, I can see that.

                                          The manual says that digikam is able to add coordinates to your images and embed them, see this page: https://docs.digikam.org/en/geolocation_editor/geoeditor_map.html, and the geocoordinates tool page as well.

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                                          #20

                                          @anderslund That's ... not what the problem is at hand.

                                          Here's an example, I click on "Copy Coordinates" and digiKam copies the coordinates from the click. And formats the coordinates in a format which is unknown to maps.

                                          Nothing to do with pictures in the moment, just the app.

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