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If you live outside of the United States,do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

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  • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

    If you live outside of the United States,
    do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

    What would happen to your work?

    What would happen to your hospitals?

    What would happen to your emergency services?

    What would happen to your banks?

    Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

    What would happen?
    Is your country prepared?

    #DataSovereignty

    onlineadviser@c.imO This user is from outside of this forum
    onlineadviser@c.imO This user is from outside of this forum
    onlineadviser@c.im
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #4

    @Em0nM4stodon What about us inside the U.S.? Seems just about as possible here. Regime change, insurrection act, etc. Personally I would not be affected too much. Rural areas like mine barely have internet and I don’t often need city services. Cash or barter economy is commonplace.

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    • onlineadviser@c.imO onlineadviser@c.im

      @Em0nM4stodon What about us inside the U.S.? Seems just about as possible here. Regime change, insurrection act, etc. Personally I would not be affected too much. Rural areas like mine barely have internet and I don’t often need city services. Cash or barter economy is commonplace.

      em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE This user is from outside of this forum
      em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE This user is from outside of this forum
      em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #5

      @Onlineadviser Indeed, indeed.

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      • lawyersgunsnmoney@mstdn.socialL lawyersgunsnmoney@mstdn.social

        @Em0nM4stodon You’ve posed a great question, which prompts another one: what if they did it here in the US as well? Makes me think again about buying that manual typewriter 😉

        em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE This user is from outside of this forum
        em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE This user is from outside of this forum
        em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #6

        @lawyersgunsnmoney

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        • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

          If you live outside of the United States,
          do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

          What would happen to your work?

          What would happen to your hospitals?

          What would happen to your emergency services?

          What would happen to your banks?

          Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

          What would happen?
          Is your country prepared?

          #DataSovereignty

          khleedril@cyberplace.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
          khleedril@cyberplace.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
          khleedril@cyberplace.social
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #7

          @Em0nM4stodon Nobody in the US is that stupid, right? Right?

          estibensito_@mastodon.socialE drwho@masto.hackers.townD 2 Replies Last reply
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          • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

            If you live outside of the United States,
            do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

            What would happen to your work?

            What would happen to your hospitals?

            What would happen to your emergency services?

            What would happen to your banks?

            Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

            What would happen?
            Is your country prepared?

            #DataSovereignty

            clouderst@abc.clouderst.xyzC This user is from outside of this forum
            clouderst@abc.clouderst.xyzC This user is from outside of this forum
            clouderst@abc.clouderst.xyz
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #8

            @Em0nM4stodon we would be cooked and deep fried 😄 as we have no independent infrastructure and services

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            • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

              If you live outside of the United States,
              do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

              What would happen to your work?

              What would happen to your hospitals?

              What would happen to your emergency services?

              What would happen to your banks?

              Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

              What would happen?
              Is your country prepared?

              #DataSovereignty

              gael_rostang@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
              gael_rostang@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
              gael_rostang@mastodon.social
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #9

              @Em0nM4stodon As a french, the entirety of our private data has been exfiltrated through months of 'hacks' targeting public services. If our country shuts down, we can always buy everything back since all has been rehosted some place else.
              I'm surprised hackers have never asked for hosting fees, since their security and redundancy is certainly better than ours.

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              • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                If you live outside of the United States,
                do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                What would happen to your work?

                What would happen to your hospitals?

                What would happen to your emergency services?

                What would happen to your banks?

                Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                What would happen?
                Is your country prepared?

                #DataSovereignty

                subm3rge@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
                subm3rge@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
                subm3rge@infosec.exchange
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #10

                @Em0nM4stodon Yes we are talking about it, #sovereignty is a major part of ongoing preparedness work, for when the [r]us leader shows their true colors.

                One issue, which is the same issue #security folks has always had, is that so many people in [commercial] leadership simply Do Not Care since they think they will just swap jobs if TSHTF. They don't really think in terms of global outages or impacts.

                The most annoying part is that those same clueless folks will turn to us when it happens, either helpless or accusing.

                No fair.

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                • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                  If you live outside of the United States,
                  do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                  What would happen to your work?

                  What would happen to your hospitals?

                  What would happen to your emergency services?

                  What would happen to your banks?

                  Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                  What would happen?
                  Is your country prepared?

                  #DataSovereignty

                  torf@c.imT This user is from outside of this forum
                  torf@c.imT This user is from outside of this forum
                  torf@c.im
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #11

                  @Em0nM4stodon I am pretty sure it is not prepared, and things will go medieval in a moment. 😟

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                  • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                    If you live outside of the United States,
                    do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                    What would happen to your work?

                    What would happen to your hospitals?

                    What would happen to your emergency services?

                    What would happen to your banks?

                    Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                    What would happen?
                    Is your country prepared?

                    #DataSovereignty

                    lina@tech.lgbtL This user is from outside of this forum
                    lina@tech.lgbtL This user is from outside of this forum
                    lina@tech.lgbt
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #12

                    @Em0nM4stodon oh dw the country runs on almost exclusively pirated copies of windows and ms office, the us govt won't be able to do anything about that /hj

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                    • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                      If you live outside of the United States,
                      do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                      What would happen to your work?

                      What would happen to your hospitals?

                      What would happen to your emergency services?

                      What would happen to your banks?

                      Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                      What would happen?
                      Is your country prepared?

                      #DataSovereignty

                      B This user is from outside of this forum
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                      barbra@social.vivaldi.net
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #13

                      @Em0nM4stodon

                      Degoogled my life years ago.

                      The only Microsoft product I use is Flight SIM 2020, which can also work in offline mode.

                      Windows 10, hasn't had updates in almost a year, it's stable. No OneDrive, no Spotlight, no updates that screw things up on a weekly basis.

                      My other computer will be moved to BSD because Linux updates crap the bed, and no distro properly supports dual GPUs any more (they did - with some command-line magic, 15 years ago, but not any more). Makes sense since Red Hat is owned by IBM.

                      Other things - keep a year's supply of some essential nonperishable food on hand, keep a decent amount of cash on hand, keep a physical chequing account at a local bank and a supply of physical cheques. Because right of now the US is not above attacking Canada's banking and internet systems.

                      blotosmetek@circumstances.runB 1 Reply Last reply
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                      • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                        If you live outside of the United States,
                        do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                        What would happen to your work?

                        What would happen to your hospitals?

                        What would happen to your emergency services?

                        What would happen to your banks?

                        Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                        What would happen?
                        Is your country prepared?

                        #DataSovereignty

                        bert_hubert@mastodon.nlB This user is from outside of this forum
                        bert_hubert@mastodon.nlB This user is from outside of this forum
                        bert_hubert@mastodon.nl
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #14

                        @Em0nM4stodon Indeed - https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/you-can-no-longer-base-your-government-and-society-on-us-clouds/ discusses this at length. And yet...

                        fazalmajid@social.vivaldi.netF 1 Reply Last reply
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                        • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                          If you live outside of the United States,
                          do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                          What would happen to your work?

                          What would happen to your hospitals?

                          What would happen to your emergency services?

                          What would happen to your banks?

                          Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                          What would happen?
                          Is your country prepared?

                          #DataSovereignty

                          stefan@stefankoopmanschap.nlS This user is from outside of this forum
                          stefan@stefankoopmanschap.nlS This user is from outside of this forum
                          stefan@stefankoopmanschap.nl
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #15

                          @Em0nM4stodon nope. my country is not prepared. I have almost finalized moving all my stuff away from US or US-hosted services, but I still rely on banks, government, etc that all are completely reliant on the US. There's still government agencies that are migrating _towards_ Azure at the moment...

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                          • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                            If you live outside of the United States,
                            do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                            What would happen to your work?

                            What would happen to your hospitals?

                            What would happen to your emergency services?

                            What would happen to your banks?

                            Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                            What would happen?
                            Is your country prepared?

                            #DataSovereignty

                            bubblegumyeti@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
                            bubblegumyeti@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
                            bubblegumyeti@mastodon.social
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #16

                            @Em0nM4stodon i am pretty ok tbh, almost everything is stored in EU

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                            • B barbra@social.vivaldi.net

                              @Em0nM4stodon

                              Degoogled my life years ago.

                              The only Microsoft product I use is Flight SIM 2020, which can also work in offline mode.

                              Windows 10, hasn't had updates in almost a year, it's stable. No OneDrive, no Spotlight, no updates that screw things up on a weekly basis.

                              My other computer will be moved to BSD because Linux updates crap the bed, and no distro properly supports dual GPUs any more (they did - with some command-line magic, 15 years ago, but not any more). Makes sense since Red Hat is owned by IBM.

                              Other things - keep a year's supply of some essential nonperishable food on hand, keep a decent amount of cash on hand, keep a physical chequing account at a local bank and a supply of physical cheques. Because right of now the US is not above attacking Canada's banking and internet systems.

                              blotosmetek@circumstances.runB This user is from outside of this forum
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                              blotosmetek@circumstances.run
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #17

                              @barbra @Em0nM4stodon So, Windows 10 is not a Microsoft product?

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                              • blotosmetek@circumstances.runB blotosmetek@circumstances.run

                                @barbra @Em0nM4stodon So, Windows 10 is not a Microsoft product?

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                                barbra@social.vivaldi.net
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #18

                                @blotosmetek @Em0nM4stodon

                                No longer under Microsoft control, so no. All of us who refused the poison-pull offer of a year's free extended support are now independent of Microsoft. They can't cut off our support since we already cut the cord.

                                So no worry about a malicious update that "accidentally" breaks things.

                                Besides, moving to X-Plane when I have the time. Runs on many different systems.

                                Additional little known fact - Canadian copyright law allows for ignoring copyright when a product goes out of support and breaks. Other countries have similar rules - just not the US.

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                                • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                                  If you live outside of the United States,
                                  do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                                  What would happen to your work?

                                  What would happen to your hospitals?

                                  What would happen to your emergency services?

                                  What would happen to your banks?

                                  Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                                  What would happen?
                                  Is your country prepared?

                                  #DataSovereignty

                                  darcmoughty@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  darcmoughty@infosec.exchange
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #19

                                  @Em0nM4stodon Same if you're a company/organization in the USA that might get accused of something like 'harboring terrorists'.

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                                  • bert_hubert@mastodon.nlB bert_hubert@mastodon.nl

                                    @Em0nM4stodon Indeed - https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/you-can-no-longer-base-your-government-and-society-on-us-clouds/ discusses this at length. And yet...

                                    fazalmajid@social.vivaldi.netF This user is from outside of this forum
                                    fazalmajid@social.vivaldi.netF This user is from outside of this forum
                                    fazalmajid@social.vivaldi.net
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #20

                                    @bert_hubert @Em0nM4stodon it was never safe to begin with. Trump is doing us a favor by making this impossible to ignore, just as he has inadvertently become the greatest salesman for EVs.

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                                    • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                                      If you live outside of the United States,
                                      do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                                      What would happen to your work?

                                      What would happen to your hospitals?

                                      What would happen to your emergency services?

                                      What would happen to your banks?

                                      Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                                      What would happen?
                                      Is your country prepared?

                                      #DataSovereignty

                                      hamishb@mstdn.caH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      hamishb@mstdn.ca
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #21

                                      @Em0nM4stodon Individuals may be savvy enough to have disconnected, but our major institutions and corporations have not.

                                      I’m not sure the tech bros would allow it, thought. They vacuum a lot of money from us.

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                                      • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                                        If you live outside of the United States,
                                        do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                                        What would happen to your work?

                                        What would happen to your hospitals?

                                        What would happen to your emergency services?

                                        What would happen to your banks?

                                        Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                                        What would happen?
                                        Is your country prepared?

                                        #DataSovereignty

                                        iwein@mas.toI This user is from outside of this forum
                                        iwein@mas.toI This user is from outside of this forum
                                        iwein@mas.to
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #22

                                        @Em0nM4stodon at @squads we are prepared, but it would still hurt badly. Some of our customers would be dead in weeks.

                                        Most people I spoke with about this risk don't see the merit of investing in a (from some perspectives) inferior backup solution that is never used and their people aren't trained on.

                                        It's like watching a slow motion disaster, but my sales skills are not enough to convince them to invest in mitigation. Hard to explain, because running a nextcloud instance that backs up a us cloud is really not that expensive. It's another story if you're fully locked into the likes of aws, Azure, Salesforce of course.

                                        That said, I also believe that it wouldn't be so easy for the regime to block whole countries. I expect them to target individual accounts like they did with ICC.

                                        Oh well, we can do the disaster recovery for those that survive such an attack I guess 😅

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                                        • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                                          If you live outside of the United States,
                                          do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                                          What would happen to your work?

                                          What would happen to your hospitals?

                                          What would happen to your emergency services?

                                          What would happen to your banks?

                                          Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                                          What would happen?
                                          Is your country prepared?

                                          #DataSovereignty

                                          bredroll@mas.toB This user is from outside of this forum
                                          bredroll@mas.toB This user is from outside of this forum
                                          bredroll@mas.to
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #23

                                          @Em0nM4stodon my ircd is ready and waiting for when teams goes offline (again)

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