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What's the opposite of doom scrolling?

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  • axomamma@mastodon.onlineA This user is from outside of this forum
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    #51

    @thegarbagebird I lived long enough to believe that it takes quite a while. Give it some thought. I'm sure you will realize that adoption takes quite a long time for big shifts. Just look at railroads.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_rail_transport

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    • mbpaz@mas.toM mbpaz@mas.to

      @gekko3k @bradr if I recall correctly, Germany still produces more photovoltaic power than Spain.

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      @mbpaz @gekko3k @bradr I don't think impossible is the right word here. This is Poland's energy mix over 20years (and look at Spain's energy mix around 2020 for comparison).

      Btw, Poland's goal is not to reach 50%, but to produce the majority of energy from renewable sources.

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        #53

        @thegarbagebird I would say so. I could only wish the US were half as fast. I live in Arizona. There is very little solar despite unrelenting sunshine. Every parking lot could have shaded parking that contributes to the grid. Can we do that? In 2026 the answer is still "no."

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        • bradr@infosec.exchangeB bradr@infosec.exchange

          What's the opposite of doom scrolling?

          Spain just pulled off one of the fastest energy transformations in Europe.

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          #54

          @bradr The headquarters of the Instituto Cervantes in Utrecht, seized by Spain's debts towards renewables

          https://es.euronews.com/cultura/2026/04/28/sede-instituto-cervantes-utrecht-embargada-deudas-espana-renovables

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          • kimeragupta@todon.euK kimeragupta@todon.eu

            @bradr and that is why the EU wants to destroy this process

            https://www.eldiario.es/economia/ue-prohibe-proyectos-energias-renovables-fondos-europeos-lleven-piezas-china_1_13192706.html

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            #55

            @KimeraGupta @bradr That makes zero sense: When you can no longer buy solar panels you keep producing electricity with the current ones, for many years; while the moment you can't buy fossil fuels you stop generating energy because they're single use. You burn it and it's gone. And as the skyrocketing fuel prices have shown us, that's a critical dependency.

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            • gim@lou.ltG gim@lou.lt

              @mbpaz @gekko3k @bradr I don't think impossible is the right word here. This is Poland's energy mix over 20years (and look at Spain's energy mix around 2020 for comparison).

              Btw, Poland's goal is not to reach 50%, but to produce the majority of energy from renewable sources.

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              @gim @gekko3k @bradr Coal usage for electricity generation in Spain is exactly zero now - no coal power stations remain.

              Roughly 40-50% actual (not installed) generation is wind+solar, depending on the weather, ~15% nuclear, 10-20% hydro.

              The major remaining polluting source is gas (in combined cycle stations), hard to replace for technical reasons. Also about 1% total energy comes from diesel generators in islands.

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              • mbpaz@mas.toM mbpaz@mas.to

                @gim @gekko3k @bradr Coal usage for electricity generation in Spain is exactly zero now - no coal power stations remain.

                Roughly 40-50% actual (not installed) generation is wind+solar, depending on the weather, ~15% nuclear, 10-20% hydro.

                The major remaining polluting source is gas (in combined cycle stations), hard to replace for technical reasons. Also about 1% total energy comes from diesel generators in islands.

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                #57

                @mbpaz @gim @gekko3k

                similar to UK (which decomissioned its last coal electric plant in 2024). Both spain and uk still use coal for heat processes (industrial and residential), but that is also declining.

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                • francommit@livellosegreto.itF francommit@livellosegreto.it

                  @bradr The headquarters of the Instituto Cervantes in Utrecht, seized by Spain's debts towards renewables

                  https://es.euronews.com/cultura/2026/04/28/sede-instituto-cervantes-utrecht-embargada-deudas-espana-renovables

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                  @francommit

                  [for the peanut gallery:] That's part of a big mess, something like €1.5 billion in civil judgements, that Spain is contesting, dating back to the 2011-2013 EU Sovereign Debt Crisis (when Rajoy retroactively canceled the 2007 green energy payment guarantee).

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                  • mbpaz@mas.toM mbpaz@mas.to

                    @disorderlyf @xerz @bradr to be honest, it's in large part a coincidence. It takes over 5 years (sometimes much longer) since a wind farm is proposed until it comes online.
                    Renewables are becoming the main source of electricity simply because of economics. Governments do not need to push renewables: they simply have to avoid punishing them.

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                    carl@chaos.social
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                    @mbpaz a feat Germany has yet to achieve @disorderlyf @xerz @bradr

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                    • energisch_@troet.cafeE energisch_@troet.cafe

                      @bradr wenn wir diese Entwicklung auf Deutschland übertragen könnten.... dann wären wir in 15 Jahren fossilfrei.
                      Aber das können wir nicht. Denn unsere Politik wurde von den fossilen Industrien gekauft.

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                      #60

                      @energisch_ WIR können Politik machen @bradr

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                      • axomamma@mastodon.onlineA axomamma@mastodon.online

                        @thegarbagebird I would say so. I could only wish the US were half as fast. I live in Arizona. There is very little solar despite unrelenting sunshine. Every parking lot could have shaded parking that contributes to the grid. Can we do that? In 2026 the answer is still "no."

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                        #61

                        @Axomamma what is hindering it? @thegarbagebird

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                        • pietervdvn@en.osm.townP pietervdvn@en.osm.town

                          @bradr Great news, but this is _only_ aboute electricity production. Is there a graph with _all_ energy and fossil use? I.e. including motor traffic (which still runs on oil), heavy industries and chemical processes?

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                          #62

                          @pietervdvn This was the comment I was about to make. We're doing ourselves a disservice every time there's progress on electricity generation and it is announced as all energy being transitioned from fossil to green. Electricity is the easier task of the two energy challenges - the hard one is fuel @bradr

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