Bonus info near the end: FENDER HAS OPENED A FUCKING CAFE!!
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Bonus info near the end: FENDER HAS OPENED A FUCKING CAFE!! - and it has a dish named "Chicken Overdrive Rice"


This is the saddest, most pathetic thing I've ever seen 


Also, yes, Fender is ABSOLUTELY trying to make it so you can't use the words "Fender" or "Stratocaster" etc. in ANY capacity without paying them.
Nobody is confused or misled - this is in no way pro-consumer. They simply won't allow a Fender product to change hands without getting a cut.
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Bonus info near the end: FENDER HAS OPENED A FUCKING CAFE!! - and it has a dish named "Chicken Overdrive Rice"


This is the saddest, most pathetic thing I've ever seen 


Also, yes, Fender is ABSOLUTELY trying to make it so you can't use the words "Fender" or "Stratocaster" etc. in ANY capacity without paying them.
Nobody is confused or misled - this is in no way pro-consumer. They simply won't allow a Fender product to change hands without getting a cut.
@jwcph Jokes' on Fender. I was never going to buy a Stratocaster, anyway, and now I will never buy another Fender product, period. At this rate, I'll buy a Gibson before I buy a Fender, and I loathe Gibson and its business practices.
The only Fender instrument I even like is the 1990-2009 Jazz Bass V, the one with the reduced size body, and that wasn't designed by Leo Fender. The only Leo designs I like are the StingRay guitar and bass, also not FMIC products or IP, they belong to Ernie Ball.
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@jwcph Jokes' on Fender. I was never going to buy a Stratocaster, anyway, and now I will never buy another Fender product, period. At this rate, I'll buy a Gibson before I buy a Fender, and I loathe Gibson and its business practices.
The only Fender instrument I even like is the 1990-2009 Jazz Bass V, the one with the reduced size body, and that wasn't designed by Leo Fender. The only Leo designs I like are the StingRay guitar and bass, also not FMIC products or IP, they belong to Ernie Ball.
@jwcph In this particular case, FMIC absolutely has a right, and indeed, a legal responsibility, to defend their trademarks, which include the names "Fender", "Stratocaster", and "Telecaster", but the manner in which they are doing so is odious, at best, and destroying the goodwill of their customers toward their company and therefore having the opposite effect to what they intend. That being said, COG and others should refrain from selling third-party products under those headings.
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@jwcph Jokes' on Fender. I was never going to buy a Stratocaster, anyway, and now I will never buy another Fender product, period. At this rate, I'll buy a Gibson before I buy a Fender, and I loathe Gibson and its business practices.
The only Fender instrument I even like is the 1990-2009 Jazz Bass V, the one with the reduced size body, and that wasn't designed by Leo Fender. The only Leo designs I like are the StingRay guitar and bass, also not FMIC products or IP, they belong to Ernie Ball.
@gcvsa Fun fact, I was shopping for an S-style a short while ago & I did seriously consider a Fender - but I ended up buying a PRS Silver Sky SE, a decision which I was happy with then & am even happier with now
(I do own a Fender, a lovely Duo-Sonic which I've had for about 4-5 years - I really like it, I will keep it & keep playing it, because I don't enjoy punching myself in the face to punish FMIC)
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@jwcph In this particular case, FMIC absolutely has a right, and indeed, a legal responsibility, to defend their trademarks, which include the names "Fender", "Stratocaster", and "Telecaster", but the manner in which they are doing so is odious, at best, and destroying the goodwill of their customers toward their company and therefore having the opposite effect to what they intend. That being said, COG and others should refrain from selling third-party products under those headings.
@gcvsa As far as I can tell, not only is COG not selling other products as Fenders - the number of actual vendors who do rounds down to zero.
What I see is COG (and others) describing/headlining a Tokai or ESP or whatever as a "Stratocaster", but in the same meaning as if they had said "Stratocaster-style" or "S-style" - and yes, you could maybe argue that the two latter are legal & the former is not, but since it does no harm to the Fender brand (because nobody is fooled) that's just petty.