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  3. I find it interesting that there's loads of people who made a core part of their identity campaigning against trans women being in women's spaces and how it impacts women, who have gone completely silent about Grok being used to undress and brutalise w...

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  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

    If you're wondering on xAI's stance on this, aside from Elon posting a crying with laughing emoji, Grok's creators have raised a further $20bn from Cisco and such yesterday.
    https://www.reuters.com/business/musks-xai-raises-20-billion-upsized-series-e-funding-round-2026-01-06/

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    #28

    @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social It’s fascinating that payment processors and app stores happily bullied Tumblr over female presenting nipples and have kicked adult game creators off of Steam, but have been completely silent on CSAM and misogyny generated on X

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    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

      I find it interesting that there's loads of people who made a core part of their identity campaigning against trans women being in women's spaces and how it impacts women, who have gone completely silent about Grok being used to undress and brutalise women.

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      #29

      @GossiTheDog I would have thought JK Rowling and Grahan Linehan would be furious?

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      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

        I find it interesting that there's loads of people who made a core part of their identity campaigning against trans women being in women's spaces and how it impacts women, who have gone completely silent about Grok being used to undress and brutalise women.

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        #30

        @GossiTheDog I assume that by "interesting" you mean totally predictable. We are HERE (with ICE goons murdering people in the streets) BECAUSE too many people have kept listening to and not challenging RW folks enough.

        The truth is they are self serving and clueless about what good policy is, or how healthy humans behave. Heeding anything a RW pawn or pundit says (like ever) is as stupid as listening to someone tell you 123 is a good password on stuff where you really do need security.

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        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

          If you're wondering what consequences X has faced: none. At all. A few months ago when Grok called itself MechaHitler, the service was shut entirely for days, the same day. When this women issue happened, Elon laughed.

          Grok is still outputting non-consensual deepfake pornography and sexual abuse material at a rate of 1 post per second. Example search:

          from:@grok filter:media

          Direct link:
          https://x.com/search?q=from%3A%40grok%20filter%3Amedia&src=typed_query&f=live

          I hope Cisco enjoy directly funding sexual abuse material.

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          #31

          @GossiTheDog I've said it before, and keeps getting truer.

          The experts in scavenging data will collect your kids' photos, repackage and obfuscate them, to then sell them to selected moneyed clients who crave their value.

          #uspol #trump #epstein #pedophiles

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          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

            I find it interesting that there's loads of people who made a core part of their identity campaigning against trans women being in women's spaces and how it impacts women, who have gone completely silent about Grok being used to undress and brutalise women.

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            #32

            @GossiTheDog if that's not proof that it was never about women & safety then IDK what other evidence would convince others that TERFs are irredeemably shit people!

            #Transmisogyny #USpol #Grok #AI #Enshittification #Sexism #Cissexism

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            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

              I find it interesting that there's loads of people who made a core part of their identity campaigning against trans women being in women's spaces and how it impacts women, who have gone completely silent about Grok being used to undress and brutalise women.

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              #33

              @GossiTheDog theoritically, if i still was a kid and i used grok to undress myself would it be considered CSAM and could i drag them into a court with that? 'Cause I am sure if something like that started, there would have been a lot of underage people who were undressed using grok publicly in the internet.

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              • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                I find it interesting that there's loads of people who made a core part of their identity campaigning against trans women being in women's spaces and how it impacts women, who have gone completely silent about Grok being used to undress and brutalise women.

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                #34

                @GossiTheDog I find it hard to believe no one has queried Grok to undress Musk, but I do find it highly likely it was programmed to avoid such a command whilst allowing CSAM.

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                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                  If you're wondering what consequences X has faced: none. At all. A few months ago when Grok called itself MechaHitler, the service was shut entirely for days, the same day. When this women issue happened, Elon laughed.

                  Grok is still outputting non-consensual deepfake pornography and sexual abuse material at a rate of 1 post per second. Example search:

                  from:@grok filter:media

                  Direct link:
                  https://x.com/search?q=from%3A%40grok%20filter%3Amedia&src=typed_query&f=live

                  I hope Cisco enjoy directly funding sexual abuse material.

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                  #35

                  To be honest, I've taken the understanding that this stuff is being done also (and especially) to underage people. And that Grok has ability to "estimate age", but still allows this. Not inly that, but what kind of stuff is in it's training data, if it can generate accurate enough material of the sort. At least I assume that the images are "sufficient enough" for those who prompt them.

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                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                    I find it interesting that there's loads of people who made a core part of their identity campaigning against trans women being in women's spaces and how it impacts women, who have gone completely silent about Grok being used to undress and brutalise women.

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                    #36

                    @GossiTheDog i'm sure fans of Harry Potter series can come up with an analogy...

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                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                      I find it interesting that there's loads of people who made a core part of their identity campaigning against trans women being in women's spaces and how it impacts women, who have gone completely silent about Grok being used to undress and brutalise women.

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                      #37

                      @GossiTheDog This is the kind of thing you hear urban legends about...
                      "One night, the whole thing burned to the ground. Officially there was never any explanation but there are rumors the whole town was in on it..."

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                      • alihan_banan@mastodon.worldA alihan_banan@mastodon.world

                        @GossiTheDog theoritically, if i still was a kid and i used grok to undress myself would it be considered CSAM and could i drag them into a court with that? 'Cause I am sure if something like that started, there would have been a lot of underage people who were undressed using grok publicly in the internet.

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                        #38

                        @alihan_banan @GossiTheDog If I'm reading 18 US Code § 2252A (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2252A), then yes, a kid asking for Grok to create CSAM of themselves and Grok 'delivers' that image as a reply, xAI or X could face potential civil liability since Grok itself can't be held criminally liable.

                        I can't guarantee that in this scenario a child might not be held liable to some degree. Probably not criminal prosecution since a minor can't "knowingly" solicit CSAM of themselves, but some measures may still be applied, like counseling or some civil consequences. Then again, I'm just a gal on the Internet, not a lawyer, so 🤷‍♀️

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                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                          I find it interesting that there's loads of people who made a core part of their identity campaigning against trans women being in women's spaces and how it impacts women, who have gone completely silent about Grok being used to undress and brutalise women.

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                          #39

                          @GossiTheDog

                          Grok has the same role in CASM as anti-trans disinformation.
                          https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2024/05/saudi-prince-alwaleed-bin-talal-invests-elon-musks-24b-ai-startup

                          https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2025-04-24/price-alwaleed-s-elon-musk-ties-are-boosting-his-comeback-bid

                          https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/oct/09/twitter-saudi-arabia-deep-ties-elon-musk-prince-mohammed

                          https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattdurot/2022/10/31/saudi-prince-alwaleed-becomes-twitters-second-largest-shareholder/

                          https://www.afr.com/wealth/people/how-two-saudi-sisters-built-a-secretive-75b-empire-20251216-p5no9r

                          https://www.smh.com.au/business/markets/rich-like-bill-gates-meet-the-saudi-sisters-wielding-75-billion-in-a-man-s-world-20251217-p5nod3.html

                          Both are fossil fuel funded efforts to remove women, girls, and trans from public life & especially from independent wealth.

                          https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/why-is-the-gop-escalating-attacks-on-trans-rights-experts-say-the-goal-is-to-make-sure-evangelicals-vote

                          https://www.npr.org/2023/10/18/1206760032/how-one-christian-legal-group-is-shaping-policy-from-abortion-to-lgbtq-rights

                          1. First Liberty Institute

                          https://www.propublica.org/article/ginni-thomas-email-scotus-ethics-reform-first-liberty-institute

                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Liberty_Institute

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                          • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                            @GossiTheDog

                            Grok has the same role in CASM as anti-trans disinformation.
                            https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2024/05/saudi-prince-alwaleed-bin-talal-invests-elon-musks-24b-ai-startup

                            https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2025-04-24/price-alwaleed-s-elon-musk-ties-are-boosting-his-comeback-bid

                            https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/oct/09/twitter-saudi-arabia-deep-ties-elon-musk-prince-mohammed

                            https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattdurot/2022/10/31/saudi-prince-alwaleed-becomes-twitters-second-largest-shareholder/

                            https://www.afr.com/wealth/people/how-two-saudi-sisters-built-a-secretive-75b-empire-20251216-p5no9r

                            https://www.smh.com.au/business/markets/rich-like-bill-gates-meet-the-saudi-sisters-wielding-75-billion-in-a-man-s-world-20251217-p5nod3.html

                            Both are fossil fuel funded efforts to remove women, girls, and trans from public life & especially from independent wealth.

                            https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/why-is-the-gop-escalating-attacks-on-trans-rights-experts-say-the-goal-is-to-make-sure-evangelicals-vote

                            https://www.npr.org/2023/10/18/1206760032/how-one-christian-legal-group-is-shaping-policy-from-abortion-to-lgbtq-rights

                            1. First Liberty Institute

                            https://www.propublica.org/article/ginni-thomas-email-scotus-ethics-reform-first-liberty-institute

                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Liberty_Institute

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                            #40

                            2/

                            https://www.ajc.com/politics/2025/07/who-received-donations-from-first-liberty-the-frosts-and-their-companies/

                            https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/751403169/202421149349301027/full

                            https://thecitizen.com/2025/07/16/ponzi-scheme-first-liberty-and-frost-family-campaign-donations-rep-jack-giving-back-to-victims/

                            2. Alliance Defending Freedom
                            https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/19/conservative-legal-christian-rightwing-group

                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_Defending_Freedom

                            https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/07/us/politics/alliance-defending-freedom.html
                            https://archive.ph/SJnKH

                            https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-investigations/alliance-defending-freedom-funded-travel-wh-staffer/

                            https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/5050/servant-foundation-he-gets-us-jesus-gen-z-alliance-defending-freedom/

                            https://xtramagazine.com/power/politics/alliance-defending-freedom-adf-hate-group-canada-gerald-chipeur-255467

                            https://epgn.com/2023/02/15/he-gets-us-ads-funded-by-anti-lgbtq-anti-abortion-donors/

                            https://www.au.org/the-latest/articles/christian-nationalist-donors-super-bowl-jesus-ad/

                            They really, really don't want their donors identified even if there's a foreign conduit for the cash.
                            https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/5050/donor-advised-funds-daf-us-charity-law-loophole-bankroll-hate/

                            https://adflegal.org/article/the-first-amendment-protects-donor-privacy/

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                              2/

                              https://www.ajc.com/politics/2025/07/who-received-donations-from-first-liberty-the-frosts-and-their-companies/

                              https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/751403169/202421149349301027/full

                              https://thecitizen.com/2025/07/16/ponzi-scheme-first-liberty-and-frost-family-campaign-donations-rep-jack-giving-back-to-victims/

                              2. Alliance Defending Freedom
                              https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/19/conservative-legal-christian-rightwing-group

                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_Defending_Freedom

                              https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/07/us/politics/alliance-defending-freedom.html
                              https://archive.ph/SJnKH

                              https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-investigations/alliance-defending-freedom-funded-travel-wh-staffer/

                              https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/5050/servant-foundation-he-gets-us-jesus-gen-z-alliance-defending-freedom/

                              https://xtramagazine.com/power/politics/alliance-defending-freedom-adf-hate-group-canada-gerald-chipeur-255467

                              https://epgn.com/2023/02/15/he-gets-us-ads-funded-by-anti-lgbtq-anti-abortion-donors/

                              https://www.au.org/the-latest/articles/christian-nationalist-donors-super-bowl-jesus-ad/

                              They really, really don't want their donors identified even if there's a foreign conduit for the cash.
                              https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/5050/donor-advised-funds-daf-us-charity-law-loophole-bankroll-hate/

                              https://adflegal.org/article/the-first-amendment-protects-donor-privacy/

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                              3/

                              https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/10/09/alliance-defending-freedoms-legal-crusade

                              Remember who funds all of this: theocratic oil oligarchs, both foreign & domestic

                              https://www.propublica.org/article/tim-dunn-farris-wilks-texas-christian-nationalism-dominionism-elections-voting

                              https://www.businessinsider.com/absher-google-refuses-to-remove-saudi-govt-app-that-tracks-women-2019-3

                              https://therevolvingdoorproject.org/billionaires-and-the-trump-admin-tim-dunn/

                              https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/13/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-app-women.html

                              https://www.desmog.com/2024/10/23/trump-project-2025-tim-dunn-crownquest-convention-states/

                              https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/3/9/mohammed-bin-salman-the-dark-side-of-saudi-arabias-crown-prince

                              https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/05/texas-fracking-billionaire-brothers-prageru-daily-wire

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                              • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                If you're wondering what consequences X has faced: none. At all. A few months ago when Grok called itself MechaHitler, the service was shut entirely for days, the same day. When this women issue happened, Elon laughed.

                                Grok is still outputting non-consensual deepfake pornography and sexual abuse material at a rate of 1 post per second. Example search:

                                from:@grok filter:media

                                Direct link:
                                https://x.com/search?q=from%3A%40grok%20filter%3Amedia&src=typed_query&f=live

                                I hope Cisco enjoy directly funding sexual abuse material.

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                                Wired has a look at videos created on Grok. Includes knives being inserted into vaginas, “very young” people having sex. Around 10% are CSAM and still online. xAI declined to comment.

                                https://www.wired.com/story/grok-is-generating-sexual-content-far-more-graphic-than-whats-on-x/

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                                  Wired has a look at videos created on Grok. Includes knives being inserted into vaginas, “very young” people having sex. Around 10% are CSAM and still online. xAI declined to comment.

                                  https://www.wired.com/story/grok-is-generating-sexual-content-far-more-graphic-than-whats-on-x/

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                                  #43

                                  @GossiTheDog when i worked trust and safety for two social media companies that shit would instantly get IP banned and a law enforcement referral . and even as an anarchist i wopuld feel 0% conflicted about it.

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                                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                    Wired has a look at videos created on Grok. Includes knives being inserted into vaginas, “very young” people having sex. Around 10% are CSAM and still online. xAI declined to comment.

                                    https://www.wired.com/story/grok-is-generating-sexual-content-far-more-graphic-than-whats-on-x/

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                                    #44

                                    @GossiTheDog maybe it’s a stunt to block open weight models? No one can be that evil to just let it work without a motive.

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                                      Related.

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                                      #45

                                      @GossiTheDog Musk is also in the files.

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                                      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                        Wired has a look at videos created on Grok. Includes knives being inserted into vaginas, “very young” people having sex. Around 10% are CSAM and still online. xAI declined to comment.

                                        https://www.wired.com/story/grok-is-generating-sexual-content-far-more-graphic-than-whats-on-x/

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                                        #46

                                        @GossiTheDog Anyone surprised at Elon sanctioning this?

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                                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                          Wired has a look at videos created on Grok. Includes knives being inserted into vaginas, “very young” people having sex. Around 10% are CSAM and still online. xAI declined to comment.

                                          https://www.wired.com/story/grok-is-generating-sexual-content-far-more-graphic-than-whats-on-x/

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                                          The Internet Watch Foundation (IWF) says its analysts have discovered "criminal imagery" of girls aged between 11 and 13 which "appears to have been created" using Grok. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg1mzlryxeo

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