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Google Chrome is silently installing a local LLM on your computer that is 4 gigabytes in size.

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  • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
    atoponce@fosstodon.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Google Chrome is silently installing a local LLM on your computer that is 4 gigabytes in size. It's done without consent, it's not visible in the settings, and removing it will reinstall it later.

    https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

    mgorny@social.treehouse.systemsM 6al@www.foxyhole.io6 msbellows@c.imM bontchev@infosec.exchangeB ferricoxide@blahaj.zoneF 25 Replies Last reply
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    • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

      Google Chrome is silently installing a local LLM on your computer that is 4 gigabytes in size. It's done without consent, it's not visible in the settings, and removing it will reinstall it later.

      https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

      mgorny@social.treehouse.systemsM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @atoponce,

      > nano
      > 4 GB

      I'm not going to ask.

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      • mgorny@social.treehouse.systemsM mgorny@social.treehouse.systems

        @atoponce,

        > nano
        > 4 GB

        I'm not going to ask.

        xgqt@functional.cafeX This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @mgorny @atoponce

        > If the user deletes it, Chrome re-downloads it.

        Please google, give me back the money I spent on roaming to download this. They should be sued for this crap at this point, but of course we live in free country(/ies) and of course The Law will be executed justly?... right? 🙂

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        • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

          Google Chrome is silently installing a local LLM on your computer that is 4 gigabytes in size. It's done without consent, it's not visible in the settings, and removing it will reinstall it later.

          https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

          6al@www.foxyhole.io6 This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @atoponce@fosstodon.org it is not really clear to me where the file named "weights.bin" is (eventually) located. Also, which is/are the parameter/s for enabling/disabling this feature. tia.

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          • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

            Google Chrome is silently installing a local LLM on your computer that is 4 gigabytes in size. It's done without consent, it's not visible in the settings, and removing it will reinstall it later.

            https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

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            #5

            @atoponce Okay, so how do we disable all Chrome AI on a Windows box? The article says it can be done, but not how.

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            • msbellows@c.imM msbellows@c.im

              @atoponce Okay, so how do we disable all Chrome AI on a Windows box? The article says it can be done, but not how.

              atoponce@fosstodon.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @msbellows I believe the toggle is chrome://settings/system "On-device AI".

              I can't confirm this though, as in my testing on Linux, I haven't been able to locate the "weights.bin" download and no directory size supports that 4 GB download.

              So either I haven't waited long enough to download it (it's been over an hour at this point), or it's not applicable to Linux.

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              • 6al@www.foxyhole.io6 6al@www.foxyhole.io

                @atoponce@fosstodon.org it is not really clear to me where the file named "weights.bin" is (eventually) located. Also, which is/are the parameter/s for enabling/disabling this feature. tia.

                atoponce@fosstodon.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @6al AppData/Local/Google/Chrome/UserData/OptGuideOnDeviceModel/ is the directory.

                I believe chrome://settings/system -> On-device AI is the toggle for this, but I can't confirm as I haven't seen the download reach my system yet.

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                • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

                  Google Chrome is silently installing a local LLM on your computer that is 4 gigabytes in size. It's done without consent, it's not visible in the settings, and removing it will reinstall it later.

                  https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

                  bontchev@infosec.exchangeB This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @atoponce A gigantic rant but no useful, actionable information. Just like the last time. I'm going to ignore this.

                  Who's gonna tell him that Microsoft installs silently Copilot on Windows PCs?

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                  • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

                    Google Chrome is silently installing a local LLM on your computer that is 4 gigabytes in size. It's done without consent, it's not visible in the settings, and removing it will reinstall it later.

                    https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

                    ferricoxide@blahaj.zoneF This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @atoponce@fosstodon.org

                    On the plus side, looks like it's smaller on Linux:

                    find ~ \
                      -type f \
                      -name "weights.bin" 2> /dev/null | \
                    xargs stat -c '%s' | \
                    awk '{
                      sum += $1
                    } END {
                      printf "%.2f GiB\n", sum / (1024^3)
                    }'
                    2.67 GiB

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                    • ferricoxide@blahaj.zoneF ferricoxide@blahaj.zone

                      @atoponce@fosstodon.org

                      On the plus side, looks like it's smaller on Linux:

                      find ~ \
                        -type f \
                        -name "weights.bin" 2> /dev/null | \
                      xargs stat -c '%s' | \
                      awk '{
                        sum += $1
                      } END {
                        printf "%.2f GiB\n", sum / (1024^3)
                      }'
                      2.67 GiB

                      atoponce@fosstodon.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      @ferricoxide I still haven't seen it show up in my home dir. What's the directory path for you?

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                      • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

                        @ferricoxide I still haven't seen it show up in my home dir. What's the directory path for you?

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                        #11

                        @atoponce@fosstodon.org

                        ${HOME}/.config/google-chrome/OptGuideOnDeviceModel/2025.8.21.1028/weights.bin

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                        • ferricoxide@blahaj.zoneF ferricoxide@blahaj.zone

                          @atoponce@fosstodon.org

                          ${HOME}/.config/google-chrome/OptGuideOnDeviceModel/2025.8.21.1028/weights.bin

                          atoponce@fosstodon.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #12

                          @ferricoxide Thanks. It appears to be ~/.var/app/com.google.Chrome/config/google-chrome/OptGuideOnDeviceModel/ for me as I have it installed via Flatpak, but the weights.bin file hasn't showed up yet.

                          I wonder if Flatpak is getting in the way here, or if it's getting installed somewhere else.

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                          • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

                            Google Chrome is silently installing a local LLM on your computer that is 4 gigabytes in size. It's done without consent, it's not visible in the settings, and removing it will reinstall it later.

                            https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

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                            #13

                            @atoponce So outside of uninstalling Chrome, what's the solution here?
                            And does it affect other Chrone-based browsers?

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                            • faduda@mastodon.ieF faduda@mastodon.ie

                              @atoponce So outside of uninstalling Chrome, what's the solution here?
                              And does it affect other Chrone-based browsers?

                              atoponce@fosstodon.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #14

                              @faduda A possible solution might be toggling chrome://settings/system -> On-device AI, although I haven't been able to confirm, as the 4 GB weights.bin file hasn't shown up on my install yet.

                              And no, this is strictly Google Chrome browser bloat. It doesn't affect Chromium, Edge, Brave, or any of the other Chromium forks as I understand it.

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                                #15
                                @0461fcbecc4c3374439932d6b8f11269ccdb7cc973ad7a50ae362db135a474dd @atoponce

                                Your sarcasm is noted. But it's also misplaced. In the article, the author points out that the obvious AI entry points in the browser (the toolbar AI button and the omnibar) don't even use the local model. They still send your queries to Google.

                                So you've got a ton of wasted bandwidth and storage space, no consent, no user action, no respect for user preferences (eg: deleting the file), and no privacy benefit because they route everything you type through the Google cloud anyway.
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                                  #16
                                  @0461fcbecc4c3374439932d6b8f11269ccdb7cc973ad7a50ae362db135a474dd @atoponce I'll allow that it's clickbait (most every tech news article is these days). But how is it misinformation?
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                                  • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

                                    @ferricoxide Thanks. It appears to be ~/.var/app/com.google.Chrome/config/google-chrome/OptGuideOnDeviceModel/ for me as I have it installed via Flatpak, but the weights.bin file hasn't showed up yet.

                                    I wonder if Flatpak is getting in the way here, or if it's getting installed somewhere else.

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                                    #17

                                    @atoponce@fosstodon.org

                                    No clue. I only looked in
                                    ~ because the only other locations my user would be able to write to would be /tmp or /var/tmp (which would be a bad place for Chrome to try to write to since those tend to be smaller partitions than /home normally is (whether /home is a standalone partition or part of `/)

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                                    • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

                                      Google Chrome is silently installing a local LLM on your computer that is 4 gigabytes in size. It's done without consent, it's not visible in the settings, and removing it will reinstall it later.

                                      https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

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                                      #18

                                      @atoponce I can confirm this on my PC. I am removing Google Chrome now.

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                                      • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

                                        Google Chrome is silently installing a local LLM on your computer that is 4 gigabytes in size. It's done without consent, it's not visible in the settings, and removing it will reinstall it later.

                                        https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

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                                        #19

                                        @atoponce Time for #degoogle and #diday !

                                        #Google

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                                        • atoponce@fosstodon.orgA atoponce@fosstodon.org

                                          Google Chrome is silently installing a local LLM on your computer that is 4 gigabytes in size. It's done without consent, it's not visible in the settings, and removing it will reinstall it later.

                                          https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

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                                          #20

                                          @atoponce Seems like an easy fix.

                                          "The only ways to make the deletion stick are to disable Chrome's AI features through chrome://flags or enterprise policy tooling that home users do not generally have, or to uninstall Chrome entirely "

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