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  3. We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

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  • minfer@masto.esM minfer@masto.es

    @EUCommission I think that most apps fall in this same category. Not only social networks but even newspapers.

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    #23

    @minfer@masto.es @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu Knowing Search Engines do, most likely newspapers, blogs and more might get into that category to, unless it only counts when it's interaction on the website directly.

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    • tehpw@mstdn.socialT tehpw@mstdn.social

      @sam @EUCommission @ikuturso I think adding all up would be hard to argue, because one instance operator doesn't have influence over the experience of other instances' users. (doesn't mean someone won't try and fail to make that argument at some point). I imagine the Commission would add up users if the same person or company runs multiple instances, which makes sense. Think: Meta opening multiple Threads instances, splitting the userbase & federating between them to avoid DSA rules.

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      #24

      @tehpw@mstdn.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu @ikuturso@mastodon.social Tbh if Threads done that, it would make it a lot better of a push for full federation between the rest of things as I think they are still on a strange partial federation.

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      • grob@mstdn.socialG grob@mstdn.social

        @EUCommission I can't help the feeling the EU is finally waking up and prepared to throw its weight around.

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        #25

        Hi there, @grob!
        The DSA has been in force since November 2022, and fully applicable since February 2024. Since then we have launched many investigations, made companies comply to our rules, and fined some.
        You can find a comprehensive overview of other companies we are supervising here: https://link.europa.eu/ngkJPH

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        • axeln@norden.socialA axeln@norden.social

          @EUCommission Thank you. Next up: Insta.

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          #26

          Hello @axeln, META also falls under the category of "Very Large Online Platforms", which we supervise.
          You can find an overview of all ongoing investigations for all these large companies here:
          https://link.europa.eu/ngkJPH

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          • jonben@social.spejset.orgJ jonben@social.spejset.org

            @EUCommission Please save us some taxpayer Euros and just ban the blasted thing! 😉

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            #27

            @jonben @EUCommission

            Do you know how a fine works? Tiktok has to PAY US up to 6%, not the other way around lol

            Jokes aside, it deserves a ban, but Gen Alpha would riot

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            • hans@procolix.socialH hans@procolix.social

              @EUCommission Great, now give them a fine that really hurts.

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              #28

              Hello @hans! First, TikTok now as the right to a written defence. After this, if a breach of the DSA is established, a fine can indeed be a consequence.
              In a recent example, the company X was fined €120 million for breaching transparency obligations, including deceptive design practices and lack of transparency in its advertising repository.
              You can learn more about how enforcement proceedings work here: https://link.europa.eu/3kC9Vg

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              • sam@break3.socialS sam@break3.social

                @tehpw@mstdn.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu @ikuturso@mastodon.social Tbh if Threads done that, it would make it a lot better of a push for full federation between the rest of things as I think they are still on a strange partial federation.

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                #29

                @sam @EUCommission @ikuturso
                If it were clear to the userbase that they were on different instances, maybe 😉

                Threads does federate with other ActivityPub services afaik. I followed some Threads accounts when it first opened. It's just de-facto unfederated now cause many large non-corporate instances have since blocked them. I understand why. Meta has unceremoniously scrapped open protocols before (Facebook messenger had XMPP when it first started). So their commitment is unreliable at best.

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                • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                  Hello @hans! First, TikTok now as the right to a written defence. After this, if a breach of the DSA is established, a fine can indeed be a consequence.
                  In a recent example, the company X was fined €120 million for breaching transparency obligations, including deceptive design practices and lack of transparency in its advertising repository.
                  You can learn more about how enforcement proceedings work here: https://link.europa.eu/3kC9Vg

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                  #30

                  @EUCommission Thanks for the reaction 👍️

                  The €120 million for X doesn't mean a lot, that doesn't hurt. Small price to pay for spreading desinformation and influencing European elections. Eloon would pay that with a big smile on his face.

                  A fine of 6% of the annual global revenue would hurt, that's the type of fine that sends the message "we're serious".

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                  • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                    Hi there, @grob!
                    The DSA has been in force since November 2022, and fully applicable since February 2024. Since then we have launched many investigations, made companies comply to our rules, and fined some.
                    You can find a comprehensive overview of other companies we are supervising here: https://link.europa.eu/ngkJPH

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                    #31

                    @EUCommission 💪 keep it up! Rule of law is what I'm here for 🇪🇺

                    But please do not make client side scanning in any way part of that law. It is so dangerous! Imagine an autocracy had that kind of access to its citizens' data and thought.

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                    • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                      We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

                      There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

                      Key features of the addictive design:
                      🔹Infinite scroll
                      🔹Autoplay
                      🔹Push notifications
                      🔹Highly personalised recommender system

                      We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                      TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

                      https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

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                      #32

                      @EUCommission 6% only? why not 10? make it a fine that's worthwhile the ensuing law suits!

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                      • energisch_@troet.cafeE energisch_@troet.cafe

                        @EUCommission 6% only? why not 10? make it a fine that's worthwhile the ensuing law suits!

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                        #33

                        @energisch_ @EUCommission

                        I'm for 100%, considering how long these companies have been disrupting democracy on purpose.

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                        • quincy@chaos.socialQ quincy@chaos.social

                          @energisch_ @EUCommission

                          I'm for 100%, considering how long these companies have been disrupting democracy on purpose.

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                          #34

                          @quincy even better 😉 @EUCommission

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                          • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                            We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

                            There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

                            Key features of the addictive design:
                            🔹Infinite scroll
                            🔹Autoplay
                            🔹Push notifications
                            🔹Highly personalised recommender system

                            We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                            TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

                            https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

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                            #35

                            @EUCommission STOP THE CENSORSHIP AND THE SPYING ON US

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                            • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                              We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

                              There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

                              Key features of the addictive design:
                              🔹Infinite scroll
                              🔹Autoplay
                              🔹Push notifications
                              🔹Highly personalised recommender system

                              We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                              TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

                              https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

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                              #36

                              @EUCommission So all social media, including Mastodon, should be banned too?

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                              • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

                                There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

                                Key features of the addictive design:
                                🔹Infinite scroll
                                🔹Autoplay
                                🔹Push notifications
                                🔹Highly personalised recommender system

                                We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                                TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

                                https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

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                                #37

                                @EUCommission facebook, instagram and x also have this addictive features in their design… 🙄 I guess that you apply the same logic as in sanctioning Russia but not Israel (their worse crimes do not bother you the least).

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                                • razvannicolescu02@mastodon.socialR razvannicolescu02@mastodon.social

                                  @EUCommission So all social media, including Mastodon, should be banned too?

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                                  #38

                                  @RazvanNicolescu02@mastodon.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu https://break3.social/notes/aiejgddc9ljk0tao

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                                  • quincy@chaos.socialQ quincy@chaos.social

                                    @energisch_ @EUCommission

                                    I'm for 100%, considering how long these companies have been disrupting democracy on purpose.

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                                    #39

                                    @quincy
                                    I second that.
                                    @energisch_ @EUCommission

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                                    • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                      We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

                                      There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

                                      Key features of the addictive design:
                                      🔹Infinite scroll
                                      🔹Autoplay
                                      🔹Push notifications
                                      🔹Highly personalised recommender system

                                      We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                                      TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

                                      https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

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                                      #40

                                      @EUCommission Errr... Mastodon has infinite scroll!

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                                      • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                        We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

                                        There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

                                        Key features of the addictive design:
                                        🔹Infinite scroll
                                        🔹Autoplay
                                        🔹Push notifications
                                        🔹Highly personalised recommender system

                                        We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                                        TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

                                        https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

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                                        #41

                                        @EUCommission right move, only first three listed aspects are misleading, because practically every application with a news feed does the same thing. The recommender system and ignoring the parental controls on the other hand are plausible.

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                                        • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                          We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

                                          There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

                                          Key features of the addictive design:
                                          🔹Infinite scroll
                                          🔹Autoplay
                                          🔹Push notifications
                                          🔹Highly personalised recommender system

                                          We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                                          TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

                                          https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

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                                          #42

                                          @EUCommission I preliminary found that the European Commission is focussing to much on petty issues instead of focussing on:

                                          * A coherent energy & grid strategy
                                          * The demographic collapse & lack of labor mobility
                                          * A truly unified European capital market
                                          * The erosion of democratic legitimacy through the judicial expansion.

                                          The European Commission can now excercise its right to reply to me.

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