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I need to warn you that I have very little patience for people who insinuate that getting out onto the streets and protesting is useless and not worth the effort.

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  • holliek72@mastodonapp.ukH holliek72@mastodonapp.uk

    @JoannaCanFixIT @Remittancegirl Isn't gathering support necessary? Where will you get the people to do the things that make the changes, if you don't gather support?

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    #13

    @HollieK72 @Remittancegirl gathering support is important, but most of people already agree that genocide should be stopped, rich should get taxed and environment should be protected. What more popular support do you need?

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    • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

      I need to warn you that I have very little patience for people who insinuate that getting out onto the streets and protesting is useless and not worth the effort.

      It is terribly fashionable to be cynical about civil, peaceful protest. But it is deeply demoralising and often people can be easily dissuaded from making the effort by that cynicism.

      No act that joins people together in protest for a better society is useless, even if only because it makes you feel less alone.

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      #14

      @Remittancegirl At the end of the day, even when the framework of democracy has been completely erased, getting out into the streets still works.

      There are definitely situations where voting no longer works - but no situation where bodily protest stops working.

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      • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

        @Remittancegirl

        https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/20/us/politics/koch-network-2024-election-trump.html

        https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump-oil-industry-donations

        https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/23/big-oil-445m-trump-congress

        Remember the 3.5% rule.
        https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/17/what-is-the-3-5-percent-protest-rule

        https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190513-it-only-takes-35-of-people-to-change-the-world

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3.5%25_rule

        https://nicolagriffith.com/2026/02/19/3-5-a-small-number-with-huge-implications/

        The billionaires funding fascist movements globally get very nervous about that 3.5%.

        The fossil fuel industry is preparing to do anything, literally anything, to keep its power & wealth.

        Frying the planet & democracy.

        https://www.americanprogress.org/article/as-americans-deepen-their-nonviolent-mobilization-the-trump-administration-begins-to-make-concessions/

        1/

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        #15

        2/

        Project 2025 has six dynasties funding it, in alliance with petrostate despots like Putin & #PrinceBonesaw

        https://www.desmog.com/2024/08/14/project-2025-billionaire-donor-heritage-foundation-donald-trump-jd-vance-charles-koch-peter-coors/

        Bradley, Koch, Coors, Scaife Mellon, Seid, Uihlein

        https://www.desmog.com/2024/10/25/project-2025-trump-mapped-how-6-billionaire-family-fortunes-fund-climate-denial/

        These are the top GOP donors in 2024.
        They're the ones funding the fascism.

        1. Elon Musk $291,482,587
        2. Timothy Mellon $197,047,200
        3. Miriam Adelson $148,304,900
        4. Richard Uihlein $143,498,936
        5. Ken Griffin $108,402,284
        6. Jeff Yass $101,128,680
        7. Paul E. Singer $66,800,800

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        • joannacanfixit@mastodon.socialJ joannacanfixit@mastodon.social

          @HollieK72 @Remittancegirl gathering support is important, but most of people already agree that genocide should be stopped, rich should get taxed and environment should be protected. What more popular support do you need?

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          #16

          @JoannaCanFixIT @Remittancegirl Enough to create the conditions where deeply organized resistance and direct action will follow.

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          • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

            2/

            Project 2025 has six dynasties funding it, in alliance with petrostate despots like Putin & #PrinceBonesaw

            https://www.desmog.com/2024/08/14/project-2025-billionaire-donor-heritage-foundation-donald-trump-jd-vance-charles-koch-peter-coors/

            Bradley, Koch, Coors, Scaife Mellon, Seid, Uihlein

            https://www.desmog.com/2024/10/25/project-2025-trump-mapped-how-6-billionaire-family-fortunes-fund-climate-denial/

            These are the top GOP donors in 2024.
            They're the ones funding the fascism.

            1. Elon Musk $291,482,587
            2. Timothy Mellon $197,047,200
            3. Miriam Adelson $148,304,900
            4. Richard Uihlein $143,498,936
            5. Ken Griffin $108,402,284
            6. Jeff Yass $101,128,680
            7. Paul E. Singer $66,800,800

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            #17

            3/

            https://jacobin.com/2025/06/andreessen-manifesto-oligarchy-tech-democracy

            https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2025/apr/13/end-times-fascism-far-right-trump-musk

            8. Marc Andreessen $42,365,113
            9. Stephen Schwarzman $40,202,039
            10. Timothy Dunn $35,780,200
            11. Rob Bigelow $34,991,500
            12. Diane Hendricks $33,165,417
            13. JJ Ricketts $32,273,650
            14. Shirley W. Ryan $32,198,116
            15. Warren A. Stephens $25,895,650
            16. Isaac & Laura Perlmutter $25,344,890
            17. Vince & Linda McMahon $23,961,659
            18. Ronnie & Nina Cameron $21,372,500
            19. Jan Koum $20,855,091
            20. Thomas Klingenstein $17,410,263

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            • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

              I need to warn you that I have very little patience for people who insinuate that getting out onto the streets and protesting is useless and not worth the effort.

              It is terribly fashionable to be cynical about civil, peaceful protest. But it is deeply demoralising and often people can be easily dissuaded from making the effort by that cynicism.

              No act that joins people together in protest for a better society is useless, even if only because it makes you feel less alone.

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              #18

              @Remittancegirl I always want to ask the people that slag off peaceful protest how many molotov cocktails they've thrown. Like, put up or shut up

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              • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                3/

                https://jacobin.com/2025/06/andreessen-manifesto-oligarchy-tech-democracy

                https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2025/apr/13/end-times-fascism-far-right-trump-musk

                8. Marc Andreessen $42,365,113
                9. Stephen Schwarzman $40,202,039
                10. Timothy Dunn $35,780,200
                11. Rob Bigelow $34,991,500
                12. Diane Hendricks $33,165,417
                13. JJ Ricketts $32,273,650
                14. Shirley W. Ryan $32,198,116
                15. Warren A. Stephens $25,895,650
                16. Isaac & Laura Perlmutter $25,344,890
                17. Vince & Linda McMahon $23,961,659
                18. Ronnie & Nina Cameron $21,372,500
                19. Jan Koum $20,855,091
                20. Thomas Klingenstein $17,410,263

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                #19

                4/

                https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/skrewdriver-shirts-sale-walmart-website-white-nationalist-1235109723/

                https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/prison-labour-walmart-mcdonalds-investigation-b2488339.html

                https://robertreich.substack.com/p/trumps-5-step-fascist-plan

                21. Rob Walton $17,572,601
                22. Janet J. Duchossois $16,306,033
                23. Howard W. Lutnick $16,503,667
                24. Kelcy L. Warren $16,151,105
                25. Walter W. Buckley Jr. $15,522,500
                26. Thomas Peterffy $14,305,900
                27. Anthony Pratt $14,000,000
                28. Sherrilyn Fisher $13,299,894
                29. David Millstone $13,413,486
                30. Lynne Walton $13,037,750
                31. Charles Schwab $12,801,600
                32. Stephen Wynn $12,518,750
                33. Anthony Lomangino $9,529,705

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                • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                  I need to warn you that I have very little patience for people who insinuate that getting out onto the streets and protesting is useless and not worth the effort.

                  It is terribly fashionable to be cynical about civil, peaceful protest. But it is deeply demoralising and often people can be easily dissuaded from making the effort by that cynicism.

                  No act that joins people together in protest for a better society is useless, even if only because it makes you feel less alone.

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                  #20

                  @Remittancegirl

                  Thats purely plotted planned propaganda,
                  because
                  PROTEST is literally the only tool (we the) people have to combat corruption at the highest level.
                  Period.

                  Wish id seen such ridiculous commentary, because id have to object & explain why that in itself is: compliance/complicity/permission.

                  Protest, 24/7, with ample enough #’s of people, is doable & effective.

                  And while we succumb to the extravagance of white collar crime & allow it to continue, is acceptance & approval.

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                  • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                    4/

                    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/skrewdriver-shirts-sale-walmart-website-white-nationalist-1235109723/

                    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/prison-labour-walmart-mcdonalds-investigation-b2488339.html

                    https://robertreich.substack.com/p/trumps-5-step-fascist-plan

                    21. Rob Walton $17,572,601
                    22. Janet J. Duchossois $16,306,033
                    23. Howard W. Lutnick $16,503,667
                    24. Kelcy L. Warren $16,151,105
                    25. Walter W. Buckley Jr. $15,522,500
                    26. Thomas Peterffy $14,305,900
                    27. Anthony Pratt $14,000,000
                    28. Sherrilyn Fisher $13,299,894
                    29. David Millstone $13,413,486
                    30. Lynne Walton $13,037,750
                    31. Charles Schwab $12,801,600
                    32. Stephen Wynn $12,518,750
                    33. Anthony Lomangino $9,529,705

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                    #21

                    5/

                    https://chicago.suntimes.com/2016/12/20/18384092/trump-met-with-chris-reyes-leader-of-giant-rosemont-food-company

                    They funded a coup attempt.
                    https://www.forbes.com/sites/michelatindera/2021/02/19/here-are-the-billionaires-who-donated-to-donald-trumps-2020-presidential-campaign/

                    https://www.chicagobusiness.com/manufacturing/how-reyes-holdings-became-biggest-beer-distributor-us/
                    https://archive.is/U5N6o

                    https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/interactive/2024/biggest-campaign-donors-election-2024/
                    https://archive.is/f9wGP

                    34. J. Christopher Reyes $9,536,425
                    35. Jay Winters Faison $9,084,324
                    36. James Davis $8,497,854
                    37. John W. Childs $8,694,286
                    38. Patricia Duggan $8,446,099
                    39. Richard G. Haworth $7,500,800
                    40. Marc J. Rowan $8,721,299
                    41. Jeffrey Specher, Kelly Loeffler $7,052,013
                    42. John L. Nau III $7,030,556

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                    • rasterweb@mastodon.socialR rasterweb@mastodon.social

                      @Remittancegirl I love seeing those interviews where there is some 65 year old white guy who is like “This is my first protest. I’ve never done anything like this before.” because it gives me some hope that more and more people are fed up with things.

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                      #22

                      @rasterweb Me too. Exactly this!

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                      • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                        5/

                        https://chicago.suntimes.com/2016/12/20/18384092/trump-met-with-chris-reyes-leader-of-giant-rosemont-food-company

                        They funded a coup attempt.
                        https://www.forbes.com/sites/michelatindera/2021/02/19/here-are-the-billionaires-who-donated-to-donald-trumps-2020-presidential-campaign/

                        https://www.chicagobusiness.com/manufacturing/how-reyes-holdings-became-biggest-beer-distributor-us/
                        https://archive.is/U5N6o

                        https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/interactive/2024/biggest-campaign-donors-election-2024/
                        https://archive.is/f9wGP

                        34. J. Christopher Reyes $9,536,425
                        35. Jay Winters Faison $9,084,324
                        36. James Davis $8,497,854
                        37. John W. Childs $8,694,286
                        38. Patricia Duggan $8,446,099
                        39. Richard G. Haworth $7,500,800
                        40. Marc J. Rowan $8,721,299
                        41. Jeffrey Specher, Kelly Loeffler $7,052,013
                        42. John L. Nau III $7,030,556

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                        #23

                        6/

                        Keeping gas prices high for their corruption & greed.
                        https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-hands-first-sale-of-swiped-oil-to-his-megadonors-company/

                        https://www.commondreams.org/news/venezuela-oil-sale-trump-donor

                        https://truthout.org/articles/first-us-sale-of-seized-venezuelan-oil-goes-to-company-of-trump-megadonor

                        43. John & Shannon V. Addison $6,757,065
                        44. Robert H. Book $6,986,387
                        45. Susan Fox $6,687,414
                        46. Patricia Perkins-Leone $6,606,600
                        47. Jeffrey Hildebrand $6,508,389
                        48. Bernard Marcus $9,397,150
                        49. Steve Brodie $6,481,298
                        50. Daniel Newlin $6,063,928
                        51. Trevor D. Rees-Jones $5,765,124
                        52. Ross & Sarah Perot $5,643,416

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                        • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                          I need to warn you that I have very little patience for people who insinuate that getting out onto the streets and protesting is useless and not worth the effort.

                          It is terribly fashionable to be cynical about civil, peaceful protest. But it is deeply demoralising and often people can be easily dissuaded from making the effort by that cynicism.

                          No act that joins people together in protest for a better society is useless, even if only because it makes you feel less alone.

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                          #24

                          @Remittancegirl the world is broken not because bad people's actions, but because of good people not doing anything 👍

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                          • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                            6/

                            Keeping gas prices high for their corruption & greed.
                            https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-hands-first-sale-of-swiped-oil-to-his-megadonors-company/

                            https://www.commondreams.org/news/venezuela-oil-sale-trump-donor

                            https://truthout.org/articles/first-us-sale-of-seized-venezuelan-oil-goes-to-company-of-trump-megadonor

                            43. John & Shannon V. Addison $6,757,065
                            44. Robert H. Book $6,986,387
                            45. Susan Fox $6,687,414
                            46. Patricia Perkins-Leone $6,606,600
                            47. Jeffrey Hildebrand $6,508,389
                            48. Bernard Marcus $9,397,150
                            49. Steve Brodie $6,481,298
                            50. Daniel Newlin $6,063,928
                            51. Trevor D. Rees-Jones $5,765,124
                            52. Ross & Sarah Perot $5,643,416

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                            #25

                            7/

                            Dead billionaire bigots fund Trump's corrupt regime.
                            https://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherhelman/2013/12/30/texas-billionaire-harold-simmons-dies-called-obama-most-dangerous-man-in-america/

                            https://www.texastribune.org/2013/12/29/harold-simmons-gop-mega-donor-dead-82/

                            Tax cheat & polluter
                            https://publicintegrity.org/politics/top-gop-donor-harold-simmons-dead-at-82/

                            https://archive.is/WXyV0

                            https://www.salon.com/2012/04/05/the_gops_nuke_dump_donor/

                            53. Harold C. Simmons $5,596,530
                            54. Kelly Navarro $5,373,100
                            55. Alice Walton $10,248,000
                            56. Rob Granieri $5,587,899

                            https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/biggest-donors

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                            • geliga@mastodon.worldG geliga@mastodon.world

                              @Remittancegirl the world is broken not because bad people's actions, but because of good people not doing anything 👍

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                              #26

                              @geliga Eh... I think it's probably both.

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                              • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                                I need to warn you that I have very little patience for people who insinuate that getting out onto the streets and protesting is useless and not worth the effort.

                                It is terribly fashionable to be cynical about civil, peaceful protest. But it is deeply demoralising and often people can be easily dissuaded from making the effort by that cynicism.

                                No act that joins people together in protest for a better society is useless, even if only because it makes you feel less alone.

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                                #27

                                @Remittancegirl there was a brilliant take on this from Nato Green on the Bugle podcast recently. Basically saying mass protest movements have no chance and are never going to win until they do.

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                                • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                                  I need to warn you that I have very little patience for people who insinuate that getting out onto the streets and protesting is useless and not worth the effort.

                                  It is terribly fashionable to be cynical about civil, peaceful protest. But it is deeply demoralising and often people can be easily dissuaded from making the effort by that cynicism.

                                  No act that joins people together in protest for a better society is useless, even if only because it makes you feel less alone.

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                                  #28

                                  @Remittancegirl So true. If peaceful protest was "useless," peaceful protestors wouldn't be frequently beaten up by police for it.

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                                  • joannacanfixit@mastodon.socialJ joannacanfixit@mastodon.social

                                    @HollieK72 @Remittancegirl gathering support is important, but most of people already agree that genocide should be stopped, rich should get taxed and environment should be protected. What more popular support do you need?

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                                    #29

                                    @JoannaCanFixIT @HollieK72 @Remittancegirl
                                    "Gathering support" isn't just popular support.

                                    If you want direct action (including even simple action like encouraging people to vote), you need a situation where people who agree on things have each others' contact information and know and trust each other. The connections that enable direct action and support for direct action are more easily formed at protests. Dropping into conversation with the people around you and getting to know them is easier because you already have at least one thing in common. If you regularly see the same people at your local protests, you are building a community that didn't exist before.

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                                    • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                                      I need to warn you that I have very little patience for people who insinuate that getting out onto the streets and protesting is useless and not worth the effort.

                                      It is terribly fashionable to be cynical about civil, peaceful protest. But it is deeply demoralising and often people can be easily dissuaded from making the effort by that cynicism.

                                      No act that joins people together in protest for a better society is useless, even if only because it makes you feel less alone.

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                                      #30

                                      @Remittancegirl

                                      Basically this in fact:

                                      https://mastodon.social/@xs4me2/113895525737253534

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                                      • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                                        I need to warn you that I have very little patience for people who insinuate that getting out onto the streets and protesting is useless and not worth the effort.

                                        It is terribly fashionable to be cynical about civil, peaceful protest. But it is deeply demoralising and often people can be easily dissuaded from making the effort by that cynicism.

                                        No act that joins people together in protest for a better society is useless, even if only because it makes you feel less alone.

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                                        @Remittancegirl
                                        Last Saturday at our regular suburban protest, a young man approached me and asked what we were doing. He and I had a long discussion about politics. At some point he told me he was a member of the Proud Boys, so then I made the case that in a democracy we should settle our differences without resorting to violence. Who knows if I made any headway in his thinking but that conversation would not have happened were I not on the street holding my "Fire Hegseth Now" sign.

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                                        • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                                          I need to warn you that I have very little patience for people who insinuate that getting out onto the streets and protesting is useless and not worth the effort.

                                          It is terribly fashionable to be cynical about civil, peaceful protest. But it is deeply demoralising and often people can be easily dissuaded from making the effort by that cynicism.

                                          No act that joins people together in protest for a better society is useless, even if only because it makes you feel less alone.

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