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I don’t want a new phone.

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  • akareilly@hachyderm.ioA akareilly@hachyderm.io

    I’m also one of the early adopters of Jolla phones and Sailfish after owning a Nokia maemo phone.

    The system needs to change. Open source alone can’t solve this. Big companies need to be compelled to act responsibly.

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    #85

    Conflict minerals need to be banned outright.

    Software licensing won’t save the people harmed at each stage of the supply chain.

    Software licensing doesn’t address how hazardous the human labour involved in recycling old electronics can be.

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    • akareilly@hachyderm.ioA akareilly@hachyderm.io

      Conflict minerals need to be banned outright.

      Software licensing won’t save the people harmed at each stage of the supply chain.

      Software licensing doesn’t address how hazardous the human labour involved in recycling old electronics can be.

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      #86

      Fairphone is a good idea.

      They do need to make a smaller phone that people with smaller hands (like 50% of the population) can use without repetitive stress injuries.

      The trend towards phones being massive fondleslabs is ableist as hell, I said what I said.

      gbrnt@masto.hackers.townG helle@tacobelllabs.netH dwalin_7@piaille.frD unluckyhaircut@corneill.esU jul451@pouet.chapril.orgJ 5 Replies Last reply
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      • akareilly@hachyderm.ioA akareilly@hachyderm.io

        I don’t want a new phone. I want my perfectly good hardware to keep getting updates until it actually stops working. I want replaceable batteries that get recycled. If a company stops giving updates I want to be able to change the OS.

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        #87

        @akareilly Likewise. There are pretty much just three reasons I actively want to replace my current phone: OS isn't getting any security updates (let alone normal updates), the camera hardware is mediocre even for its time, and there are a couple of broken or worn down parts that I just do not have the ability to replace and repair myself, & paying someone else to do it would be a good chunk to a new-er device.

        If it were still getting updates - even just a quarterly security patch - I'd be fine with just paying someone to handle replacing the display (glass is pretty cracked) and battery (its aging a fair bit) and going from there. I technically have a second one with an even more fucked up screen & definitely need to be replaced battery, but the cost to fix em up just doesn't feel worth it when I can get a decent phone that'll allegedly last a good few years for not much more, with a couple of quality of life improvements I actually care about.

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        • akareilly@hachyderm.ioA akareilly@hachyderm.io

          Fairphone is a good idea.

          They do need to make a smaller phone that people with smaller hands (like 50% of the population) can use without repetitive stress injuries.

          The trend towards phones being massive fondleslabs is ableist as hell, I said what I said.

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          #88

          @akareilly yes! This is a hill I will die on (a hill made of phones that are too big)

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          • akareilly@hachyderm.ioA akareilly@hachyderm.io

            I don’t want a new phone. I want my perfectly good hardware to keep getting updates until it actually stops working. I want replaceable batteries that get recycled. If a company stops giving updates I want to be able to change the OS.

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            @akareilly What do you want to pay?

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            • akareilly@hachyderm.ioA akareilly@hachyderm.io

              Fairphone is a good idea.

              They do need to make a smaller phone that people with smaller hands (like 50% of the population) can use without repetitive stress injuries.

              The trend towards phones being massive fondleslabs is ableist as hell, I said what I said.

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              #90

              @akareilly Yes, I need a smaller phone for fuck sake..... I need a small phone with Android for just daily use.....

              But obviously some companies want it also to be your entertainment system and that seems to drive up the size. — Vi

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              • helle@tacobelllabs.netH helle@tacobelllabs.net

                @akareilly Yes, I need a smaller phone for fuck sake..... I need a small phone with Android for just daily use.....

                But obviously some companies want it also to be your entertainment system and that seems to drive up the size. — Vi

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                #91

                @akareilly Also yes, team small hands..... — Vi

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                • akareilly@hachyderm.ioA akareilly@hachyderm.io

                  Fairphone is a good idea.

                  They do need to make a smaller phone that people with smaller hands (like 50% of the population) can use without repetitive stress injuries.

                  The trend towards phones being massive fondleslabs is ableist as hell, I said what I said.

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                  #92

                  @akareilly plus it would probably be cheaper

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                  • akareilly@hachyderm.ioA akareilly@hachyderm.io

                    Fairphone is a good idea.

                    They do need to make a smaller phone that people with smaller hands (like 50% of the population) can use without repetitive stress injuries.

                    The trend towards phones being massive fondleslabs is ableist as hell, I said what I said.

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                    #93

                    @akareilly yes, I hate those huge phones and I want to keep using my small smartphone for as long as possible (probably changing the battery once in while)

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                    • akareilly@hachyderm.ioA akareilly@hachyderm.io

                      Fairphone is a good idea.

                      They do need to make a smaller phone that people with smaller hands (like 50% of the population) can use without repetitive stress injuries.

                      The trend towards phones being massive fondleslabs is ableist as hell, I said what I said.

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                      #94

                      @akareilly team #fairphone3 and i'd like to continue my ongoing travel with you, but i do want a smaller one (still thick enough to not slip trought my fingers, though)

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                      • jul451@pouet.chapril.orgJ jul451@pouet.chapril.org

                        @akareilly team #fairphone3 and i'd like to continue my ongoing travel with you, but i do want a smaller one (still thick enough to not slip trought my fingers, though)

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                        #95

                        @Jul451 @akareilly According to the company (Fairphone), smaller phones are hard to realize because smaller displays are harder/much more expensive to source nowadays (so only giant sellers like Apple are able to offer smaller devices). While Fairphones grew ever bigger until the FP5, the FP6 returned to FP3ish dimensions, see https://forum.fairphone.com/t/fairphone-dimensions-and-weights/101845?u=wearefairphone You might want to consider a fingerloop accessory. /u

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                        • codinghorror@infosec.exchangeC codinghorror@infosec.exchange

                          @akareilly yes but what percent of humanity also wants what you want and is willing to pay extra for it?

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                          @codinghorror
                          Is it really more expensive ? I mean not as an individual but as a society (since we're talking about percentages of humanity)

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                          • rakoo@blah.rako.spaceR rakoo@blah.rako.space
                            @codinghorror
                            Is it really more expensive ? I mean not as an individual but as a society (since we're talking about percentages of humanity)

                            @akareilly
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                            @rakoo @codinghorror

                            If the alternative is relying on child labour and funding genocides, we as a society need to get our shit together on this issue.

                            Oh no the billionaires will end up with less yacht money.

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                            • wearefairphone@social.fairphone.communityW wearefairphone@social.fairphone.community

                              @Jul451 @akareilly According to the company (Fairphone), smaller phones are hard to realize because smaller displays are harder/much more expensive to source nowadays (so only giant sellers like Apple are able to offer smaller devices). While Fairphones grew ever bigger until the FP5, the FP6 returned to FP3ish dimensions, see https://forum.fairphone.com/t/fairphone-dimensions-and-weights/101845?u=wearefairphone You might want to consider a fingerloop accessory. /u

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                              #98

                              @WeAreFairphone @Jul451

                              and yet my hands remain as small as ever

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                                #99

                                @glent @akareilly It should be made easier by the fact that the entire source tree for the latest firmware should be available to read.

                                In my mind, it allows the firmware to continue to receive updates that are managed and maintained by the community, not necessarily starting from scratch on a new OS.

                                Both options are just a dream until the world’s governments get serious about right-to-repair legislation that makes it happen.

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