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  3. The Rust project puts out an article about how they're listening to their community https://blog.rust-lang.org/2026/03/20/rust-challenges/

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  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

    The Rust project puts out an article about how they're listening to their community https://blog.rust-lang.org/2026/03/20/rust-challenges/

    Except it turns out that article was drafted by an LLM https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/1rz15t3/what_we_heard_about_rusts_challenges_and_how_we/obiwu24/

    They claim nearly every line was rewritten by a human but I'm not sure how you could send a worse signal to your community about how much you aren't listening than having an LLM draft a post saying we're really listening, honest

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    #2

    @cwebber What a weird debate here:
    - This sounds like a LLM wrote it.
    - Sure for the first draft, but it was rewritten to *match my style*!
    - Your """style""" looks very much like a fucking LLM bro...

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    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

      The Rust project puts out an article about how they're listening to their community https://blog.rust-lang.org/2026/03/20/rust-challenges/

      Except it turns out that article was drafted by an LLM https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/1rz15t3/what_we_heard_about_rusts_challenges_and_how_we/obiwu24/

      They claim nearly every line was rewritten by a human but I'm not sure how you could send a worse signal to your community about how much you aren't listening than having an LLM draft a post saying we're really listening, honest

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      #3

      @cwebber

      And once again the Zig language project shows, that there's a better way: https://ziglang.org/code-of-conduct/#strict-no-llm-no-ai-policy

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      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

        The Rust project puts out an article about how they're listening to their community https://blog.rust-lang.org/2026/03/20/rust-challenges/

        Except it turns out that article was drafted by an LLM https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/1rz15t3/what_we_heard_about_rusts_challenges_and_how_we/obiwu24/

        They claim nearly every line was rewritten by a human but I'm not sure how you could send a worse signal to your community about how much you aren't listening than having an LLM draft a post saying we're really listening, honest

        rey@toot.catR This user is from outside of this forum
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        #4

        @cwebber whew, glad I didn't hitch my goat to that bloating whale carcass

        I'm disappointed in Rust, I really wanna use it and like it, but Jesus Christ they make awful decisions

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        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

          The Rust project puts out an article about how they're listening to their community https://blog.rust-lang.org/2026/03/20/rust-challenges/

          Except it turns out that article was drafted by an LLM https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/1rz15t3/what_we_heard_about_rusts_challenges_and_how_we/obiwu24/

          They claim nearly every line was rewritten by a human but I'm not sure how you could send a worse signal to your community about how much you aren't listening than having an LLM draft a post saying we're really listening, honest

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          #5

          @cwebber Oh for fuck's sake

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          • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

            The Rust project puts out an article about how they're listening to their community https://blog.rust-lang.org/2026/03/20/rust-challenges/

            Except it turns out that article was drafted by an LLM https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/1rz15t3/what_we_heard_about_rusts_challenges_and_how_we/obiwu24/

            They claim nearly every line was rewritten by a human but I'm not sure how you could send a worse signal to your community about how much you aren't listening than having an LLM draft a post saying we're really listening, honest

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            #6

            @cwebber The real Rust was on their people skills all along, who knew?

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            • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

              The Rust project puts out an article about how they're listening to their community https://blog.rust-lang.org/2026/03/20/rust-challenges/

              Except it turns out that article was drafted by an LLM https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/1rz15t3/what_we_heard_about_rusts_challenges_and_how_we/obiwu24/

              They claim nearly every line was rewritten by a human but I'm not sure how you could send a worse signal to your community about how much you aren't listening than having an LLM draft a post saying we're really listening, honest

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              #7

              @cwebber
              Why not RIIR?

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              • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                The Rust project puts out an article about how they're listening to their community https://blog.rust-lang.org/2026/03/20/rust-challenges/

                Except it turns out that article was drafted by an LLM https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/1rz15t3/what_we_heard_about_rusts_challenges_and_how_we/obiwu24/

                They claim nearly every line was rewritten by a human but I'm not sure how you could send a worse signal to your community about how much you aren't listening than having an LLM draft a post saying we're really listening, honest

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                #8

                @cwebber why not give it a metallic taste: "It wasn't just improved by humans, it was a deep rewrite"

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                • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                  The Rust project puts out an article about how they're listening to their community https://blog.rust-lang.org/2026/03/20/rust-challenges/

                  Except it turns out that article was drafted by an LLM https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/1rz15t3/what_we_heard_about_rusts_challenges_and_how_we/obiwu24/

                  They claim nearly every line was rewritten by a human but I'm not sure how you could send a worse signal to your community about how much you aren't listening than having an LLM draft a post saying we're really listening, honest

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                  #9

                  @cwebber How will managers and bureaucrats of the future learn to write bland corporate pablum if they let the machine do it for them?

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                  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                    The Rust project puts out an article about how they're listening to their community https://blog.rust-lang.org/2026/03/20/rust-challenges/

                    Except it turns out that article was drafted by an LLM https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/1rz15t3/what_we_heard_about_rusts_challenges_and_how_we/obiwu24/

                    They claim nearly every line was rewritten by a human but I'm not sure how you could send a worse signal to your community about how much you aren't listening than having an LLM draft a post saying we're really listening, honest

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                    #10

                    @cwebber yeah uh, the general consensus within the project is very LLM-negative, but a vocal minority has been extremely LLM-positive, which is why the project only has a stopgap anti-slop-PR measure until a larger policy is written

                    it really feels like some major shifts are going to have to happen

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                    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                      The Rust project puts out an article about how they're listening to their community https://blog.rust-lang.org/2026/03/20/rust-challenges/

                      Except it turns out that article was drafted by an LLM https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/1rz15t3/what_we_heard_about_rusts_challenges_and_how_we/obiwu24/

                      They claim nearly every line was rewritten by a human but I'm not sure how you could send a worse signal to your community about how much you aren't listening than having an LLM draft a post saying we're really listening, honest

                      helge@mas.toH This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #11

                      @cwebber "They claim nearly every line was rewritten by a human" smells the same as "I have reviewed all the code in this 40k lines monstrosity PR that I made with Claude"

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                      • datenwolf@chaos.socialD datenwolf@chaos.social

                        @cwebber

                        And once again the Zig language project shows, that there's a better way: https://ziglang.org/code-of-conduct/#strict-no-llm-no-ai-policy

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                        #12

                        @datenwolf @cwebber I considered learning Rust because I was looking for a modern systems language with modern tooling and without GC but the complicated syntax, the complex toolchain and a lack of a standard is pushing me towards Zig, this is another strong push in that direction.

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                          #13

                          Do you happen to have a link at hand for what you read / heard?
                          @kirtai @cwebber

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                          • emilianosandri@mastodon.bsd.cafeE emilianosandri@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                            @datenwolf @cwebber I considered learning Rust because I was looking for a modern systems language with modern tooling and without GC but the complicated syntax, the complex toolchain and a lack of a standard is pushing me towards Zig, this is another strong push in that direction.

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                            @emilianosandri @datenwolf @cwebber I dabbled with zig about a year ago and I really liked it...

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                            • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                              The Rust project puts out an article about how they're listening to their community https://blog.rust-lang.org/2026/03/20/rust-challenges/

                              Except it turns out that article was drafted by an LLM https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/1rz15t3/what_we_heard_about_rusts_challenges_and_how_we/obiwu24/

                              They claim nearly every line was rewritten by a human but I'm not sure how you could send a worse signal to your community about how much you aren't listening than having an LLM draft a post saying we're really listening, honest

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                              #15

                              @cwebber why are people convinced that “I rewrote it in my style” is a thing. Editing is hard. Changing the “style” of a large block of text is extremely difficult without literally rewriting it from scratch, at which point you should just… write it yourself.

                              Ask for a list of bullet points to cover if you really are incapable, though probably you shouldn’t be given the job of writing community announcements…

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                              • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                The Rust project puts out an article about how they're listening to their community https://blog.rust-lang.org/2026/03/20/rust-challenges/

                                Except it turns out that article was drafted by an LLM https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/1rz15t3/what_we_heard_about_rusts_challenges_and_how_we/obiwu24/

                                They claim nearly every line was rewritten by a human but I'm not sure how you could send a worse signal to your community about how much you aren't listening than having an LLM draft a post saying we're really listening, honest

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                                #16

                                @cwebber I'm more and more convinced that there needs to be a complete moratorium on programming until this LLM shit dies in a fire or the FOSS community purges every LLM booster. Name, shame, and ostracize.

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                                • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                  The Rust project puts out an article about how they're listening to their community https://blog.rust-lang.org/2026/03/20/rust-challenges/

                                  Except it turns out that article was drafted by an LLM https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/1rz15t3/what_we_heard_about_rusts_challenges_and_how_we/obiwu24/

                                  They claim nearly every line was rewritten by a human but I'm not sure how you could send a worse signal to your community about how much you aren't listening than having an LLM draft a post saying we're really listening, honest

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                                  #17

                                  @cwebber If they rewrote every sentence, why did they need the LLM in the first place? Lies, lies, lies.

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                                  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                    The Rust project puts out an article about how they're listening to their community https://blog.rust-lang.org/2026/03/20/rust-challenges/

                                    Except it turns out that article was drafted by an LLM https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/1rz15t3/what_we_heard_about_rusts_challenges_and_how_we/obiwu24/

                                    They claim nearly every line was rewritten by a human but I'm not sure how you could send a worse signal to your community about how much you aren't listening than having an LLM draft a post saying we're really listening, honest

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                                    #18

                                    @cwebber I went when I read 'Async complexity: the "Three Horsemen" problem'

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                                    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                      The Rust project puts out an article about how they're listening to their community https://blog.rust-lang.org/2026/03/20/rust-challenges/

                                      Except it turns out that article was drafted by an LLM https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/1rz15t3/what_we_heard_about_rusts_challenges_and_how_we/obiwu24/

                                      They claim nearly every line was rewritten by a human but I'm not sure how you could send a worse signal to your community about how much you aren't listening than having an LLM draft a post saying we're really listening, honest

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                                      #19

                                      @cwebber idk if they realize but, blog posts are supposed to carry meaning

                                      if you have a slop generator spew something out for you that is a most effective admission you actually have nothing to say

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                                      • clarfonthey@toot.catC clarfonthey@toot.cat

                                        @cwebber yeah uh, the general consensus within the project is very LLM-negative, but a vocal minority has been extremely LLM-positive, which is why the project only has a stopgap anti-slop-PR measure until a larger policy is written

                                        it really feels like some major shifts are going to have to happen

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                                        #20

                                        @clarfonthey @cwebber Sounds like a description of software in general - there's only a tiny sliver of people who are positive about LLMs but don't say anything

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                                          #21

                                          @SRAZKVT I've bounced off of learning Rust from a technical standpoint a few times now, what's the deal with the community? Maybe I'll have to write it off entirely.

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