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  3. Nearly 500,000 russian citizens enjoyed European holidays last year.

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  • beachbum@mastodon.sdf.orgB beachbum@mastodon.sdf.org

    @2legged @EugeneMcParland We shouldn’t be permitted to participate since we are an aggressor.

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    #8

    @Beachbum Who is the "we" in your comment?

    @EugeneMcParland

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    • eugenemcparland@mastodon.ieE eugenemcparland@mastodon.ie

      Nearly 500,000 russian citizens enjoyed European holidays last year. Meanwhile, Ukrainians were dying on the battlefield.

      It’s time to end Schengen tourist visas for russian tourists. Holidays in the EU are a privilege, not a right for citizens of a country waging war on our continent.

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      #9

      @EugeneMcParland so we are sanctioning civilians? I thought we fight their ruling class...

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      • eugenemcparland@mastodon.ieE eugenemcparland@mastodon.ie

        Nearly 500,000 russian citizens enjoyed European holidays last year. Meanwhile, Ukrainians were dying on the battlefield.

        It’s time to end Schengen tourist visas for russian tourists. Holidays in the EU are a privilege, not a right for citizens of a country waging war on our continent.

        jakeyounglol@mstdn.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        #10

        @EugeneMcParland if russia was a democracy, i would support this sanction (but with exceptions for people with proof they voted against it), but russia is an autocracy, so this is just collective punishment for the actions of putin

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        • eugenemcparland@mastodon.ieE eugenemcparland@mastodon.ie

          @wolf

          It's not just "putin's War", it is "russia's War"

          This will leave a stain on russian society and politics that will remain long after putin is gone.

          russia is a Terrorist State

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          #11

          @EugeneMcParland @wolf Its always a states war and a societys war not an individuals.
          What is the point? Is Israel a Terrorist State too?

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          • schabe@troet.cafeS schabe@troet.cafe

            @EugeneMcParland @wolf Its always a states war and a societys war not an individuals.
            What is the point? Is Israel a Terrorist State too?

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            #12

            @Schabe @EugeneMcParland @wolf

            I mean, does attacking civilians to achieve the military goal of annexation count as terrorism. Both Israel and Russia's militaries have done this.

            More to the original point, Russia's economy is suffering greatly right now because it's neglecting domestic welfare in order to achieve victory in Ukraine. Russians are having difficulty even filling their cars with enough gas to get home from the station. I'd put pretty good odds the Russians who can still afford to travel at all, let alone abroad, are either directly or indirectly complicit.

            (posted from the wrong account the first time)

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            • schabe@troet.cafeS schabe@troet.cafe

              @EugeneMcParland @wolf Its always a states war and a societys war not an individuals.
              What is the point? Is Israel a Terrorist State too?

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              #13

              @Schabe @EugeneMcParland @wolf

              yes

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              • eugenemcparland@mastodon.ieE eugenemcparland@mastodon.ie

                Nearly 500,000 russian citizens enjoyed European holidays last year. Meanwhile, Ukrainians were dying on the battlefield.

                It’s time to end Schengen tourist visas for russian tourists. Holidays in the EU are a privilege, not a right for citizens of a country waging war on our continent.

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                #14

                @EugeneMcParland
                far too many people don't get what war is.

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                • eugenemcparland@mastodon.ieE eugenemcparland@mastodon.ie

                  Nearly 500,000 russian citizens enjoyed European holidays last year. Meanwhile, Ukrainians were dying on the battlefield.

                  It’s time to end Schengen tourist visas for russian tourists. Holidays in the EU are a privilege, not a right for citizens of a country waging war on our continent.

                  pictor@ohai.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #15

                  @EugeneMcParland I don’t know. I’m conflicted. I also want Russians to see Europe, Ukraine included, as vital spaces with vibrant cultures and worth visiting and appreciating it on its own level.

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                  • eugenemcparland@mastodon.ieE eugenemcparland@mastodon.ie

                    Nearly 500,000 russian citizens enjoyed European holidays last year. Meanwhile, Ukrainians were dying on the battlefield.

                    It’s time to end Schengen tourist visas for russian tourists. Holidays in the EU are a privilege, not a right for citizens of a country waging war on our continent.

                    ramazanovrufat@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #16

                    @EugeneMcParland Oh my goodness. Why you're hate russian people?

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                    • eugenemcparland@mastodon.ieE eugenemcparland@mastodon.ie

                      @wolf

                      It's not just "putin's War", it is "russia's War"

                      This will leave a stain on russian society and politics that will remain long after putin is gone.

                      russia is a Terrorist State

                      ramazanovrufat@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #17

                      @EugeneMcParland @wolf If Russia is really Terrorist state, why ukrainian army keeps stole ukrainian man every day?

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                      • wolf@fedi.solibre.deW wolf@fedi.solibre.de

                        @EugeneMcParland
                        I don't think that we should generally discriminate all Russian citizens for having the wrong president there are enough Russian,s that suffer themself under Putin.

                        Also I dont want to be hold responsible, or personal punished for the German government I didn't vote for.

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                        #18

                        @wolf @EugeneMcParland That's exactly how all German civilians were rightfully treated during WWII. Nobody checked Germans' voting records. That's how Russians should be treated now. It's physically painful to me to agree with the EPP on anything (and I know they're doing it because they're not in power in most Russian oligarchs destinations), but it boggles the mind that anyone thinks the vast majority of visa beneficiaries are dissidents, rather than vatniks flying their mistress to Cannes.

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                        • pictor@ohai.socialP pictor@ohai.social

                          @EugeneMcParland I don’t know. I’m conflicted. I also want Russians to see Europe, Ukraine included, as vital spaces with vibrant cultures and worth visiting and appreciating it on its own level.

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                          #19

                          @pictor @EugeneMcParland ... have you ever heard a "not interested in politics" average Russian talk about Ukraine?

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                          • jakeyounglol@mstdn.socialJ jakeyounglol@mstdn.social

                            @EugeneMcParland if russia was a democracy, i would support this sanction (but with exceptions for people with proof they voted against it), but russia is an autocracy, so this is just collective punishment for the actions of putin

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                            #20

                            @jakeyounglol @EugeneMcParland In Post-Soviet Russia, We're have Democracy party, Yabloko before Putin take power over Russia.

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                            • wolf@fedi.solibre.deW wolf@fedi.solibre.de

                              @EugeneMcParland
                              I don't think that we should generally discriminate all Russian citizens for having the wrong president there are enough Russian,s that suffer themself under Putin.

                              Also I dont want to be hold responsible, or personal punished for the German government I didn't vote for.

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                              #21

                              @wolf @EugeneMcParland most of them are in favour of what their fellow monsters do to the people of Ukraine.

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                              • eugenemcparland@mastodon.ieE eugenemcparland@mastodon.ie

                                Nearly 500,000 russian citizens enjoyed European holidays last year. Meanwhile, Ukrainians were dying on the battlefield.

                                It’s time to end Schengen tourist visas for russian tourists. Holidays in the EU are a privilege, not a right for citizens of a country waging war on our continent.

                                gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #22

                                @EugeneMcParland Is there a petition to sign … ?

                                I’m sure it would receive plenty of signatures..

                                How about an EU citizen’s legalation initiative? 🤔🤔

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                                • eugenemcparland@mastodon.ieE eugenemcparland@mastodon.ie

                                  Nearly 500,000 russian citizens enjoyed European holidays last year. Meanwhile, Ukrainians were dying on the battlefield.

                                  It’s time to end Schengen tourist visas for russian tourists. Holidays in the EU are a privilege, not a right for citizens of a country waging war on our continent.

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                                  #23

                                  @EugeneMcParland

                                  Wow! you mean they have not already done that?? WTF!

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                                  • eugenemcparland@mastodon.ieE eugenemcparland@mastodon.ie

                                    Nearly 500,000 russian citizens enjoyed European holidays last year. Meanwhile, Ukrainians were dying on the battlefield.

                                    It’s time to end Schengen tourist visas for russian tourists. Holidays in the EU are a privilege, not a right for citizens of a country waging war on our continent.

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                                    #24

                                    @EugeneMcParland There are lots of wealthy ruzzians visiting their properties around the Mediterranean. Those are the ones not sent to fight as cannon-fodder, and supporting putin. Stopping them travelling is an obvious action the EU should impose.

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                                    • eugenemcparland@mastodon.ieE eugenemcparland@mastodon.ie

                                      Nearly 500,000 russian citizens enjoyed European holidays last year. Meanwhile, Ukrainians were dying on the battlefield.

                                      It’s time to end Schengen tourist visas for russian tourists. Holidays in the EU are a privilege, not a right for citizens of a country waging war on our continent.

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                                      #25

                                      @EugeneMcParland @altbot

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                                      • eugenemcparland@mastodon.ieE eugenemcparland@mastodon.ie

                                        Nearly 500,000 russian citizens enjoyed European holidays last year. Meanwhile, Ukrainians were dying on the battlefield.

                                        It’s time to end Schengen tourist visas for russian tourists. Holidays in the EU are a privilege, not a right for citizens of a country waging war on our continent.

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                                        #26

                                        @EugeneMcParland

                                        but leave putin's daughter in paris

                                        and maybe a well-connected kremlin douchebag in london

                                        etc., etc.

                                        1. you know they wont nuke paris or london

                                        2. if they suddenly go home you get notice shit's going up a notch

                                        (/half kidding, half 🤔 )

                                        ah, fuck it, send them all home

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                                        • schabe@troet.cafeS schabe@troet.cafe

                                          @EugeneMcParland @wolf Its always a states war and a societys war not an individuals.
                                          What is the point? Is Israel a Terrorist State too?

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                                          #27

                                          @Schabe @EugeneMcParland @wolf as the United States of America since Trump took control.

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