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  3. Curious find of the day: the AI community on X has seemingly re-discovered the World Wide Web, in that it now favours HTML over Markdown for “agents to communicate with us”: https://x

Curious find of the day: the AI community on X has seemingly re-discovered the World Wide Web, in that it now favours HTML over Markdown for “agents to communicate with us”: https://x

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  • ricmac@mastodon.socialR ricmac@mastodon.social

    Now they’ve discovered external style sheets.

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    #10

    @ricmac wake me when the vibe coders reinvent/rediscover the use of programming languages to, oh I don't know, specify the desired behavior of software

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    • ricmac@mastodon.socialR ricmac@mastodon.social

      Now they’ve discovered external style sheets.

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      glitzersachen@hachyderm.io
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      #11

      @ricmac

      Wow. It's such a sh*t show.

      "AI" (LLM style) is really a gathering point for the clueless, who then make important self-aggrandizing noise.

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      • fionasboots@tech.lgbtF fionasboots@tech.lgbt

        @ricmac How much does handling 12000 (or 6000 for that matter) tokens cost? Do they need to submit the entire thing each time to get some sort of result: a fix, a change, extra code, reformatting, etc? What happens if you send an LLM just a tiny section of code without context? Does that work (I would assume either not at all or not very well) ... so does that mean that people using AI are burning through 1000's of tokens at time as they iterate through development? That sounds crazy expensive and wasteful!

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        glitzersachen@hachyderm.io
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        #12

        @fionasboots @ricmac

        All questions that should not need to be asked. If I need to ask those questions, the technology is crap.

        Can we now get back to real programming? (I don't mean you. This utterance is directed at the world at large).

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        • ricmac@mastodon.socialR ricmac@mastodon.social

          Curious find of the day: the AI community on X has seemingly re-discovered the World Wide Web, in that it now favours HTML over Markdown for “agents to communicate with us”: https://x.com/trq212/status/2052809885763747935?s=43 #AI #WhatGoesAroundComesAround

          misty@digipres.clubM This user is from outside of this forum
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          #13

          @ricmac Unfortunately they haven’t yet discovered the concept of a “blog” where you can store posts without paying x dot com $40 a month

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          • svelmoe@hachyderm.ioS svelmoe@hachyderm.io

            @ricmac there are not enough facepalm memes online for this

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            glitzersachen@hachyderm.io
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            #14

            @svelmoe @ricmac

            You could ask an AI to create more of them especially for this occasion.

            But pay attention to your token use. Maybe you can use the saved style sheet tokens for this.

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            • ricmac@mastodon.socialR ricmac@mastodon.social

              Unfortunately, I think the next step might be: “What if we created a virtual DOM…”

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              #15

              @ricmac be ready for everything canvas.

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              • ricmac@mastodon.socialR ricmac@mastodon.social

                Now they’ve discovered external style sheets.

                svavar@masto.svavar.comS This user is from outside of this forum
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                svavar@masto.svavar.com
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                #16

                @ricmac

                This is the dumbest way to learn programming.

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                • pikesley@mastodon.me.ukP pikesley@mastodon.me.uk

                  @ricmac

                  what is happening

                  mikalai@privacysafe.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  mikalai@privacysafe.social
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                  #17

                  @pikesley @ricmac
                  reinventing the wheel .... after firing bunch of carriage keepers.

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                  • ricmac@mastodon.socialR ricmac@mastodon.social

                    Now they’ve discovered external style sheets.

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                    #18

                    @ricmac Wait until they find out about web components 😆

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                    • ricmac@mastodon.socialR ricmac@mastodon.social

                      Now they’ve discovered external style sheets.

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                      #19

                      @ricmac 😂🤣😂🤣😂

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                      • ricmac@mastodon.socialR ricmac@mastodon.social

                        Now they’ve discovered external style sheets.

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                        #20

                        @ricmac This seems like the funny thing about AI token optimization is gives them a direct measure for good coding practices. I can't wait for them to be like "I found this awesome hack where I go deep and learn the tech so that I can give the AI better feedback. It saves so many tokens!"

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                        • ricmac@mastodon.socialR ricmac@mastodon.social

                          Now they’ve discovered external style sheets.

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                          #21

                          @ricmac I feel like the old witch in the woods who knows all the secret spells who everyone ignores.

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                          • misty@digipres.clubM misty@digipres.club

                            @ricmac Unfortunately they haven’t yet discovered the concept of a “blog” where you can store posts without paying x dot com $40 a month

                            residuum@digitalcourage.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #22

                            @misty @ricmac
                            How many tokens does it cost to generate this thing called "blog" from a post on X?

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                            • ricmac@mastodon.socialR ricmac@mastodon.social

                              Now they’ve discovered external style sheets.

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                              #23

                              @ricmac @bkastl They came full circle.

                              Also, they were meant, when Gordon Ramsy performed the idiot sandwich.

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                              • ricmac@mastodon.socialR ricmac@mastodon.social

                                Now they’ve discovered external style sheets.

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                                #24

                                @ricmac What is a 12116 token HTML article? Haha, I'm so out of the loop on this topic, and it makes so little sense to me 😄

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                                • ricmac@mastodon.socialR ricmac@mastodon.social

                                  Unfortunately, I think the next step might be: “What if we created a virtual DOM…”

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                                  #25

                                  @ricmac STOP GIVING THEM IDEAS (for free)

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                                    #26

                                    @john.kreitlow.rocks "whoa, dude... wouldn't it, like, be strange if this was also more efficient in every other way? We couldn't be that lucky, tho. But what if..."

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                                    • ricmac@mastodon.socialR ricmac@mastodon.social

                                      Now they’ve discovered external style sheets.

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                                      #27

                                      @ricmac @cassidy this week i literally found a website that had a full blown photo gallery entirely as base64 encoded images. the entire website was a single html many megabytes in size.

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                                      • rotnroll666@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        rotnroll666@mastodon.social
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                                        #28

                                        @fionasboots @glitzersachen @ricmac “from the best programmers in the world” if only. What do one get when training the stuff on stack overflow and mediocre enterprise rest applications? 🤣

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                                        • ricmac@mastodon.socialR ricmac@mastodon.social

                                          Now they’ve discovered external style sheets.

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                                          rolf_b_lh@muenster.im
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                                          #29

                                          @ricmac But it seems he learned something Form the AI...

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