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  3. Basically: If you run OpenClaw connected to any meaningful system you are not fit to design, program or run any kind of software.

Basically: If you run OpenClaw connected to any meaningful system you are not fit to design, program or run any kind of software.

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  • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

    Basically: If you run OpenClaw connected to any meaningful system you are not fit to design, program or run any kind of software. That disregard for security and quality should leave a black mark on you for many years.

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    #16

    @tante

    “Meaningful system” here, includes a network.

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    • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

      Basically: If you run OpenClaw connected to any meaningful system you are not fit to design, program or run any kind of software. That disregard for security and quality should leave a black mark on you for many years.

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      #17

      @tante Here's the corporate vice president of Microsoft Word running #OpenClaw to organize his family tasks and comms: https://www.omarknows.ai/p/meet-lobster-my-personal-ai-assistant

      Don't worry, I'm sure no malicious actors will ever target his setup to compromise #Microsoft network. I mean, they'll only have access to all info and location of his loved ones. Surely there's zero monetary value in that...

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      • jukkan@mstdn.socialJ jukkan@mstdn.social

        @tante Here's the corporate vice president of Microsoft Word running #OpenClaw to organize his family tasks and comms: https://www.omarknows.ai/p/meet-lobster-my-personal-ai-assistant

        Don't worry, I'm sure no malicious actors will ever target his setup to compromise #Microsoft network. I mean, they'll only have access to all info and location of his loved ones. Surely there's zero monetary value in that...

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        #18

        @tante OMFG. He has now connected #OpenClaw to his smart home AND published a full playbook of his setup:
        https://lobster.shahine.com/

        A senior leader at Microsoft basically gave the keys to his front door to autonomous GenAI agents.

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        • jukkan@mstdn.socialJ jukkan@mstdn.social

          @tante OMFG. He has now connected #OpenClaw to his smart home AND published a full playbook of his setup:
          https://lobster.shahine.com/

          A senior leader at Microsoft basically gave the keys to his front door to autonomous GenAI agents.

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          #19

          @jukkan professionals

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          • lennybacon@infosec.exchangeL lennybacon@infosec.exchange

            @tante Unfit… or “security expert at Meta” 😂

            https://www.golem.de/news/bei-sicherheitsexpertin-ki-agent-leert-unerwartet-ganzen-e-mail-posteingang-2602-205762.html

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            #20

            @lennybacon

            "Das wird nicht nochmal passieren."

            😂😂😂

            @tante

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            • jukkan@mstdn.socialJ jukkan@mstdn.social

              @tante Here's the corporate vice president of Microsoft Word running #OpenClaw to organize his family tasks and comms: https://www.omarknows.ai/p/meet-lobster-my-personal-ai-assistant

              Don't worry, I'm sure no malicious actors will ever target his setup to compromise #Microsoft network. I mean, they'll only have access to all info and location of his loved ones. Surely there's zero monetary value in that...

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              #21

              @jukkan @tante fucking hell, some people REALLY crave having a personal assistant a la JARVIS. i particularly find the bit at the end creepy, where the AI compliments him on how "well written" his post is. validation/praise sycophant machine...

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              • patrick_h_lauke@mastodon.socialP patrick_h_lauke@mastodon.social

                @jukkan @tante fucking hell, some people REALLY crave having a personal assistant a la JARVIS. i particularly find the bit at the end creepy, where the AI compliments him on how "well written" his post is. validation/praise sycophant machine...

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                #22

                @patrick_h_lauke @jukkan @tante

                there is stupidity, and there is clinical levels of stupidity. The AI bubble actively selects for the latter

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                • jukkan@mstdn.socialJ jukkan@mstdn.social

                  @tante Here's the corporate vice president of Microsoft Word running #OpenClaw to organize his family tasks and comms: https://www.omarknows.ai/p/meet-lobster-my-personal-ai-assistant

                  Don't worry, I'm sure no malicious actors will ever target his setup to compromise #Microsoft network. I mean, they'll only have access to all info and location of his loved ones. Surely there's zero monetary value in that...

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                  #23

                  @jukkan @tante

                  > From this point forward, this is only going to get better and more amazing

                  There's *no possible way* these words will ever come back to haunt him

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                  • patrick_h_lauke@mastodon.socialP patrick_h_lauke@mastodon.social

                    @jukkan @tante fucking hell, some people REALLY crave having a personal assistant a la JARVIS. i particularly find the bit at the end creepy, where the AI compliments him on how "well written" his post is. validation/praise sycophant machine...

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                    #24

                    @patrick_h_lauke @jukkan @tante I mean - I’d want one too. I would also like to have a wand from any magic world you can imagine so magic could do my dishes. Getting either of those before the end of this decade is … unrealistic.

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                    • H hiiaminfi@mastodon.social

                      @patrick_h_lauke @jukkan @tante I mean - I’d want one too. I would also like to have a wand from any magic world you can imagine so magic could do my dishes. Getting either of those before the end of this decade is … unrealistic.

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                      #25

                      @hiiaminfi @jukkan @tante "aren't you worried about privacy? no, since i pay for the service" oh sweet sweet summer child

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                      • patrick_h_lauke@mastodon.socialP patrick_h_lauke@mastodon.social

                        @hiiaminfi @jukkan @tante "aren't you worried about privacy? no, since i pay for the service" oh sweet sweet summer child

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                        #26

                        @patrick_h_lauke @hiiaminfi @jukkan @tante omfg

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                        • jkmcnk@mastodon.socialJ jkmcnk@mastodon.social

                          @patrick_h_lauke @hiiaminfi @jukkan @tante omfg

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                          #27

                          @jkmcnk @patrick_h_lauke @hiiaminfi @tante "Physical security matters. The Mac is in my office, which is in my house. If someone steals it, I have bigger problems."

                          2 weeks later: "Behold! I have connected #OpenClaw with the smart home system that can open the door to my house!!!"

                          https://www.omarknows.ai/p/lobster-gets-a-playbook-and-a-superpower

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                          • jukkan@mstdn.socialJ jukkan@mstdn.social

                            @tante Here's the corporate vice president of Microsoft Word running #OpenClaw to organize his family tasks and comms: https://www.omarknows.ai/p/meet-lobster-my-personal-ai-assistant

                            Don't worry, I'm sure no malicious actors will ever target his setup to compromise #Microsoft network. I mean, they'll only have access to all info and location of his loved ones. Surely there's zero monetary value in that...

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                            #28

                            @jukkan @tante @david_chisnall
                            To be fair, how much more damage could a malicious actor do to Microsoft compared to their current management?

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                            • fritzadalis@infosec.exchangeF fritzadalis@infosec.exchange

                              @jukkan @tante @david_chisnall
                              To be fair, how much more damage could a malicious actor do to Microsoft compared to their current management?

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                              #29

                              @FritzAdalis @tante @david_chisnall

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                              • jukkan@mstdn.socialJ jukkan@mstdn.social

                                @jkmcnk @patrick_h_lauke @hiiaminfi @tante "Physical security matters. The Mac is in my office, which is in my house. If someone steals it, I have bigger problems."

                                2 weeks later: "Behold! I have connected #OpenClaw with the smart home system that can open the door to my house!!!"

                                https://www.omarknows.ai/p/lobster-gets-a-playbook-and-a-superpower

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                                #30

                                @jukkan @jkmcnk @patrick_h_lauke @tante this also boggles my mind. I own Smart home stuff. I get the Appeal. I really do. But Smart Locks creep me out.

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                                • patrick_h_lauke@mastodon.socialP patrick_h_lauke@mastodon.social

                                  @hiiaminfi @jukkan @tante "aren't you worried about privacy? no, since i pay for the service" oh sweet sweet summer child

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                                  #31

                                  @patrick_h_lauke @jukkan @tante come on at least he has multiple agents to isolate environments or something. That’s almost professional.

                                  (I am kidding of course)

                                  I think the most diplomatic take I can get behind is: „If you are reading a tutorial about how to set OpenClaw up: This is out of your league, keep your hands off.“

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