No shoes are truly BIFL if you wear them regularly, but these come close
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I learned the key is to avoid real leather. Even if you get $400 italian boots, that shit can’t take literally daily wear. It needs to rest.
The good faux leathers (using the material used in luxary yachts and car upholstery) lasts decades.
Personally my problem has never really been the leather wearing out, it’s almost always the soles that give out on me long before that.
And failing that it’s usually other hardware like zippers
The only pair I really remember having an issue with the leather was a pair of steel toed work boots, and they developed some holes on the toes because I tended to use them to kick things around. Not too many materials hold up too well to being banged around between steel and a rock on whatever, so I don’t exactly blame the leather there.
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I definitely have been considering resoleable shoes but really seems like that is only do able for heavy duty shoes which I really dont have much cause to wear.
Thanks to the replies I have found many blake stitch and goodyear welt sneakers, now I just have to pick a pair and save up
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I learned the key is to avoid real leather. Even if you get $400 italian boots, that shit can’t take literally daily wear. It needs to rest.
The good faux leathers (using the material used in luxary yachts and car upholstery) lasts decades.
Technically all shoes should rest, but yeah if you’re in a humid climate leather handles it worse.
Good leather will last SO much longer if you take care of it. Had leather shoes I wore everyday until the sole wore through. It was initially super thick and I’d still be wearing them if it was a resolable shoe. Now that’s all I get and they’ll probably outlive me.
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So, you’ve fallen into a trap of your own making.
First, you didn’t wait for OP to respond. Had you waited, you’d see that 8 minutes ago they explained that it was in fact cheaper to have them repaired instead of replaced.
Second, you’re sitting here arguing for consumption vs repair and reuse. I can’t think of a more morally defunct argument than this, and I will gladly explain to you why.
So, you’ve fallen into a trap of your own making.
hum?
First, you didn’t wait for OP to respond.
Yes, because i can predict the future! And the OP will answer all the questions that aren’t asked.
Second, you’re sitting here arguing for consumption vs repair and reuse.
I’m not arguing anything. I made a question because unfortunately most of the times repair and reuse is not economically viable. And if it’s not worth it, most people won’t go down that route. Secondly the stupid question was not from the post OP. Just someone trying to beat me in his purity test.
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It may look like a beat-up old pair of hiking boots, but in fact it’s a pair of beat-up old hiking boots with new soles, lining, heel-counters, shanks, hardware, laces and one hell of a cleaning and reconditioning job.
Around 4 years ago I bought this pair of Danner Lights. They were worn fairly close to daily, and have some hard miles on them hiking and backpacking.
Sent them in to Danner for their recrafting service. 4-6 weeks and a couple days for shipping later I just got them back.
They’re just the tiniest bit snug because of the new lining, but otherwise these are unmistakably my boots that have broken in to fit my feet, but the soles still have treads on them.
Also, Danner customer service was great to deal with. When I shipped my boots out to them, I got the notification that they had been delivered, but after a day or two I hadn’t gotten the email from Danner to confirm they received it. I wasn’t exactly worried, I figured it would probably take them a couple days to open the box and get my boots checked in, but I figured it wouldn’t hurt to give them a call anyway.
After a reasonable number of rings, my call was answered by an actual human.
And one with no heavy accent, who didn’t mumble into the phone, and had no attitude problem, and most astoundingly, actually worked for Danner at their office.
But so I asked if there was any way he could confirm that my boots had been delivered to the right place. He took my tracking info, looked it up, and was able to tell me that yes, they had them, because he knew the guy who signed for them.
And then he gave me a direct number to the recrafting department in case I needed to follow up with them any further (I didn’t feel any need for that, but after recently going through hell trying to get in touch with anyone at the local delivery hub for a company that was supposed to deliver some new appliances for me with no luck to figure out what the hell was going on with repeated delivery delays, I really appreciated that)
It’s kind of sad that I’m so used to automated menus, outsourced call centers, and customer service reps who clearly want to be doing anything else but helping me (not that I blame them, I don’t want to work either) that that’s all it takes to make a customer service experience feel great.
If I have any complaints at all about my experience, it’s that the white stitching around the soles was replaced with brown. I thought the white looked pretty sharp, but these are hiking boots they’re just going to get dirty anyway.
But anyway, I’m really happy with my experience, and I’m looking forward to hopefully another 4+ years with these boots.
I wore a pair of Double-H boots for ten years. So broken in they were like heavy leather slippers. Eventually the toe collapsed during a road trip on my motorcycle shifting gears. I was melting wax into the leather to reharden it but got overzealous with the heat and shrank the leather. I hope to find a cobler or leathersmith that can repair it. Double-H no longer make that style harness boot, not in brown anyways.
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I learned the key is to avoid real leather. Even if you get $400 italian boots, that shit can’t take literally daily wear. It needs to rest.
The good faux leathers (using the material used in luxary yachts and car upholstery) lasts decades.
You’re not taking care of your boots then, leather is skin and needs care. I have a pair of boots in my closet that lasted ten years, until I made a mistake and ruined them. I’m not ready to let them go yet.
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You’re not taking care of your boots then, leather is skin and needs care. I have a pair of boots in my closet that lasted ten years, until I made a mistake and ruined them. I’m not ready to let them go yet.
Every few months I would polish them. That wasn’t the problem. They need to rest. If they get wet and you keep using them (because you use them every day and only have 1 pair of shoes), they will not last
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Personally my problem has never really been the leather wearing out, it’s almost always the soles that give out on me long before that.
And failing that it’s usually other hardware like zippers
The only pair I really remember having an issue with the leather was a pair of steel toed work boots, and they developed some holes on the toes because I tended to use them to kick things around. Not too many materials hold up too well to being banged around between steel and a rock on whatever, so I don’t exactly blame the leather there.
I replaced the soles 4 times before the uppers were trash (because they were leather)
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It may look like a beat-up old pair of hiking boots, but in fact it’s a pair of beat-up old hiking boots with new soles, lining, heel-counters, shanks, hardware, laces and one hell of a cleaning and reconditioning job.
Around 4 years ago I bought this pair of Danner Lights. They were worn fairly close to daily, and have some hard miles on them hiking and backpacking.
Sent them in to Danner for their recrafting service. 4-6 weeks and a couple days for shipping later I just got them back.
They’re just the tiniest bit snug because of the new lining, but otherwise these are unmistakably my boots that have broken in to fit my feet, but the soles still have treads on them.
Also, Danner customer service was great to deal with. When I shipped my boots out to them, I got the notification that they had been delivered, but after a day or two I hadn’t gotten the email from Danner to confirm they received it. I wasn’t exactly worried, I figured it would probably take them a couple days to open the box and get my boots checked in, but I figured it wouldn’t hurt to give them a call anyway.
After a reasonable number of rings, my call was answered by an actual human.
And one with no heavy accent, who didn’t mumble into the phone, and had no attitude problem, and most astoundingly, actually worked for Danner at their office.
But so I asked if there was any way he could confirm that my boots had been delivered to the right place. He took my tracking info, looked it up, and was able to tell me that yes, they had them, because he knew the guy who signed for them.
And then he gave me a direct number to the recrafting department in case I needed to follow up with them any further (I didn’t feel any need for that, but after recently going through hell trying to get in touch with anyone at the local delivery hub for a company that was supposed to deliver some new appliances for me with no luck to figure out what the hell was going on with repeated delivery delays, I really appreciated that)
It’s kind of sad that I’m so used to automated menus, outsourced call centers, and customer service reps who clearly want to be doing anything else but helping me (not that I blame them, I don’t want to work either) that that’s all it takes to make a customer service experience feel great.
If I have any complaints at all about my experience, it’s that the white stitching around the soles was replaced with brown. I thought the white looked pretty sharp, but these are hiking boots they’re just going to get dirty anyway.
But anyway, I’m really happy with my experience, and I’m looking forward to hopefully another 4+ years with these boots.
and one with no heavy accent
K
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It may look like a beat-up old pair of hiking boots, but in fact it’s a pair of beat-up old hiking boots with new soles, lining, heel-counters, shanks, hardware, laces and one hell of a cleaning and reconditioning job.
Around 4 years ago I bought this pair of Danner Lights. They were worn fairly close to daily, and have some hard miles on them hiking and backpacking.
Sent them in to Danner for their recrafting service. 4-6 weeks and a couple days for shipping later I just got them back.
They’re just the tiniest bit snug because of the new lining, but otherwise these are unmistakably my boots that have broken in to fit my feet, but the soles still have treads on them.
Also, Danner customer service was great to deal with. When I shipped my boots out to them, I got the notification that they had been delivered, but after a day or two I hadn’t gotten the email from Danner to confirm they received it. I wasn’t exactly worried, I figured it would probably take them a couple days to open the box and get my boots checked in, but I figured it wouldn’t hurt to give them a call anyway.
After a reasonable number of rings, my call was answered by an actual human.
And one with no heavy accent, who didn’t mumble into the phone, and had no attitude problem, and most astoundingly, actually worked for Danner at their office.
But so I asked if there was any way he could confirm that my boots had been delivered to the right place. He took my tracking info, looked it up, and was able to tell me that yes, they had them, because he knew the guy who signed for them.
And then he gave me a direct number to the recrafting department in case I needed to follow up with them any further (I didn’t feel any need for that, but after recently going through hell trying to get in touch with anyone at the local delivery hub for a company that was supposed to deliver some new appliances for me with no luck to figure out what the hell was going on with repeated delivery delays, I really appreciated that)
It’s kind of sad that I’m so used to automated menus, outsourced call centers, and customer service reps who clearly want to be doing anything else but helping me (not that I blame them, I don’t want to work either) that that’s all it takes to make a customer service experience feel great.
If I have any complaints at all about my experience, it’s that the white stitching around the soles was replaced with brown. I thought the white looked pretty sharp, but these are hiking boots they’re just going to get dirty anyway.
But anyway, I’m really happy with my experience, and I’m looking forward to hopefully another 4+ years with these boots.
and one with no heavy accent
What a repulsive thing to say.
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and one with no heavy accent
What a repulsive thing to say.
Pretty much the whole point of a call center job is to be able to verbally communicate with your callers clearly and effectively.
And, like it or not, heavy accents can really get in the way of that, and I think that’s an accessibility issue. It makes it difficult for people to access services they need to use.
Not everyone has great hearing, some people have cognitive issues, some people are just not used to hearing different accents. I’ve had to make calls to customer service for my mom because she just could not understand the reps she was getting to be able to resolve the issues she was having.
Most accents don’t cause an issue for most people, but for some accents with some people they really do, and it’s incredibly frustrating to be in the position where you can’t understand the person who’s supposed to be helping you to fix your issue because companies don’t want to spend the money to hire customer service reps who can speak clearly for positions where that’s really the only qualification that’s needed.
And it’s not just foreign accents, I honestly have more trouble with certain American accents, I’ve gotten a few people that I’d swear were trying to do a Boomhauer impression.
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Every few months I would polish them. That wasn’t the problem. They need to rest. If they get wet and you keep using them (because you use them every day and only have 1 pair of shoes), they will not last
Polishing looks nice but it’s not moisturizing the leather like an oil, like mink oil. My Double-H boots were the boots I wore if I wasn’t in work boots. Those boots went from CA to FL, NH to TX, on a motorcycle rode in the weather from Mexico to Canada and back to Southern California.
Just because they’re $400 and Italian doesn’t mean they’re any good. Fashion boots aren’t necessarily using good leather or good soles. -
Polishing looks nice but it’s not moisturizing the leather like an oil, like mink oil. My Double-H boots were the boots I wore if I wasn’t in work boots. Those boots went from CA to FL, NH to TX, on a motorcycle rode in the weather from Mexico to Canada and back to Southern California.
Just because they’re $400 and Italian doesn’t mean they’re any good. Fashion boots aren’t necessarily using good leather or good soles.I used oil. They weren’t fashion boots. Good hiking brand.
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I used oil. They weren’t fashion boots. Good hiking brand.
Maybe you were just harder on your boots than my daily walkin around boots. My work boots never last as long because, well, work.
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and one with no heavy accent
K
I think the poster respectfully means they prefer to talk to someone who speaks proper Murrican.
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Pretty much the whole point of a call center job is to be able to verbally communicate with your callers clearly and effectively.
And, like it or not, heavy accents can really get in the way of that, and I think that’s an accessibility issue. It makes it difficult for people to access services they need to use.
Not everyone has great hearing, some people have cognitive issues, some people are just not used to hearing different accents. I’ve had to make calls to customer service for my mom because she just could not understand the reps she was getting to be able to resolve the issues she was having.
Most accents don’t cause an issue for most people, but for some accents with some people they really do, and it’s incredibly frustrating to be in the position where you can’t understand the person who’s supposed to be helping you to fix your issue because companies don’t want to spend the money to hire customer service reps who can speak clearly for positions where that’s really the only qualification that’s needed.
And it’s not just foreign accents, I honestly have more trouble with certain American accents, I’ve gotten a few people that I’d swear were trying to do a Boomhauer impression.
The two accents: American and foreign
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The two accents: American and foreign
Yes, that is clearly what I meant when I used the plural form of the word “accent”
/S (because you really seem like you might need it.)
Were the actual bigots and racists so mean to you that you can’t bring yourself to face them, and so now you’re just gonna go around digging up week-old posts to make up things to get offended about so you can pretend you’re actually standing up for something?
Go find something worth actually getting offended over.
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It may look like a beat-up old pair of hiking boots, but in fact it’s a pair of beat-up old hiking boots with new soles, lining, heel-counters, shanks, hardware, laces and one hell of a cleaning and reconditioning job.
Around 4 years ago I bought this pair of Danner Lights. They were worn fairly close to daily, and have some hard miles on them hiking and backpacking.
Sent them in to Danner for their recrafting service. 4-6 weeks and a couple days for shipping later I just got them back.
They’re just the tiniest bit snug because of the new lining, but otherwise these are unmistakably my boots that have broken in to fit my feet, but the soles still have treads on them.
Also, Danner customer service was great to deal with. When I shipped my boots out to them, I got the notification that they had been delivered, but after a day or two I hadn’t gotten the email from Danner to confirm they received it. I wasn’t exactly worried, I figured it would probably take them a couple days to open the box and get my boots checked in, but I figured it wouldn’t hurt to give them a call anyway.
After a reasonable number of rings, my call was answered by an actual human.
And one with no heavy accent, who didn’t mumble into the phone, and had no attitude problem, and most astoundingly, actually worked for Danner at their office.
But so I asked if there was any way he could confirm that my boots had been delivered to the right place. He took my tracking info, looked it up, and was able to tell me that yes, they had them, because he knew the guy who signed for them.
And then he gave me a direct number to the recrafting department in case I needed to follow up with them any further (I didn’t feel any need for that, but after recently going through hell trying to get in touch with anyone at the local delivery hub for a company that was supposed to deliver some new appliances for me with no luck to figure out what the hell was going on with repeated delivery delays, I really appreciated that)
It’s kind of sad that I’m so used to automated menus, outsourced call centers, and customer service reps who clearly want to be doing anything else but helping me (not that I blame them, I don’t want to work either) that that’s all it takes to make a customer service experience feel great.
If I have any complaints at all about my experience, it’s that the white stitching around the soles was replaced with brown. I thought the white looked pretty sharp, but these are hiking boots they’re just going to get dirty anyway.
But anyway, I’m really happy with my experience, and I’m looking forward to hopefully another 4+ years with these boots.
I bought some ECCO hiking boots. Not for the wild wilderness, but definitely okay for the local woods and wintertime. Bought like 10 years ago. Still going strong. Water proof (actually plunged through the ice into some ankle deep water the other day and my socks were completely dry afterwards). You just have to take proper care of them. Clean the leather after the season, prepare it for storage. Then they come pretty dang close to BIFL, as well.
