It's more than an embarrassment.
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Those
Marines
Can
Quit
Now
Or
Be
Tried
Later,
Then.They are complicit in war crimes until they choose not to be anymore.
@GGMcBG @georgetakei Military personnel, in general, can’t just quit. Officers who’ve met their minimum required service can resign, but enlisted personnel sign up for a particular # of years and can’t leave until that’s up. People who haven’t served seem to think it’s like any other job where you can just walk away, but that’s not true. Even refusing unlawful orders is much more complicated than it seems at first glance, & could send you to Leavenworth.
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@GGMcBG @georgetakei Military personnel, in general, can’t just quit. Officers who’ve met their minimum required service can resign, but enlisted personnel sign up for a particular # of years and can’t leave until that’s up. People who haven’t served seem to think it’s like any other job where you can just walk away, but that’s not true. Even refusing unlawful orders is much more complicated than it seems at first glance, & could send you to Leavenworth.
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It's more than an embarrassment. It's a reason to put him on trial at The Hague.
@georgetakei I'm sure you know that the United States does not recognize the ICC. There's actually such a thing as a "The Hague Invasion Act".
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I’m a bit tired of hearing Americans say their government and its actions are an “embarrassment”. As long as you are just “embarrassed” you’re not on my side.
@DavidM_yeg @georgetakei there are no words capable of expressing the combination of horror, anger, nausea, and grief this administration brings.
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@georgetakei I'm sure you know that the United States does not recognize the ICC. There's actually such a thing as a "The Hague Invasion Act".
"The bill was introduced by U.S. Senator Jesse Helms (Republican from North Carolina) and U.S. Representative Tom DeLay (Republican from Texas)..." and was enacted August 2, 2002.
I knew about the law but not the people responsible. Zero surprise seeing these guys' names stuck to it..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Service-Members'_Protection_Act
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FFS. Iran is surrounded on three sides by big fuck-off mountains, and on the other side by water.
The Persians almost never got invaded, bcs above.
It's closer from Poland to Iran than from the top of Iran to the bottom of Iran.
And the orange shit-gibbon has NO idea what that means. He is an utter *loser* and needs to be told, every 5 minutes, on live TV, that he's a loser.
Then he'll threaten to nuke them, and (hopefully) all the intelligent people in the room/world will go 'No. You do that, and *we'll* nuke you. Fuck off, you demented nonce".
"And the orange shit-gibbon has NO idea what that means. He is an utter *loser* and needs to be told, every 5 minutes, on live TV, that he's a loser. "
I'd pay good money to see that, even more if I could stream it 24/7.
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"The bill was introduced by U.S. Senator Jesse Helms (Republican from North Carolina) and U.S. Representative Tom DeLay (Republican from Texas)..." and was enacted August 2, 2002.
I knew about the law but not the people responsible. Zero surprise seeing these guys' names stuck to it..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Service-Members'_Protection_Act
@IAmDannyBoling
I didn't either, but an educated guess might well have seen these names turn up. Especially that creep Jesse Helms.
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@GGMcBG @georgetakei Military personnel, in general, can’t just quit. Officers who’ve met their minimum required service can resign, but enlisted personnel sign up for a particular # of years and can’t leave until that’s up. People who haven’t served seem to think it’s like any other job where you can just walk away, but that’s not true. Even refusing unlawful orders is much more complicated than it seems at first glance, & could send you to Leavenworth.
Well said. I understand all that.
But if I knew that my finger was needed to push the button that would blow up a random, unidentified boat in international waters then they'd have to physically hold my finger down on it.
I can sit here right now and say I'd have the courage to refuse such a blatantly illegal order, and I honestly believe that about myself. But I have no way of knowing for sure. And hopefully never will.
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It's more than an embarrassment. It's a reason to put him on trial at The Hague.
An actual war criminal indeed… vile and evil.
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@georgetakei I'm sure you know that the United States does not recognize the ICC. There's actually such a thing as a "The Hague Invasion Act".
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