Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you.
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Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.
@zackwhittaker Shockingly tone deaf. How long do we think it’ll take before they change/remove the feature?
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Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.
@zackwhittaker And someone needs to test extensively. I found problems in prior promises:
https://medium.com/@boblord/icloud-private-relay-and-dns-privacy-968d210a62bb
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Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.
@zackwhittaker I just don't understand how any corporation thinks this is a good idea with 75%+ of the country absolutely rabid (rightfully) towards Flock.
I'm slowly coming to the realization that all Big Tech and SV know how to do is surveillance.
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Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.
@zackwhittaker I'm not a lawyer, but as far as I know, it's illegal to record other people without explicit consent in Australia.
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@zackwhittaker I just don't understand how any corporation thinks this is a good idea with 75%+ of the country absolutely rabid (rightfully) towards Flock.
I'm slowly coming to the realization that all Big Tech and SV know how to do is surveillance.
@distractal @zackwhittaker can't spell surveillance without SV and VC
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Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.
@zackwhittaker i *really* don't think their privacy claims are likely to be true. extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
on the other hand, i can see legit uses for this, if they were. disabled folks. meetings that take place away from a computer (or if it works better than all the other crappy solutions on one).
on the THIRD hand: needs to be an obvious box with a big flashing light or something; not spy tech. (my watch is a buzzsaw!)
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@sylvie @zackwhittaker
"unless there's some slimey technicality legalese that allow them to be true like 'we write a transcript which technically isn't an audio recording'"You nailed it.
@nurglerider
It's worth noting that GamersNexus seemed to indicate that LG's use of "ambient" was potentially their way out of a lie legally... Nothing is confirmed of course but it is weird that LG and now Apple are using the same word and we know LG is being super creepy. -
@nurglerider
It's worth noting that GamersNexus seemed to indicate that LG's use of "ambient" was potentially their way out of a lie legally... Nothing is confirmed of course but it is weird that LG and now Apple are using the same word and we know LG is being super creepy.@bobkmertz @sylvie @zackwhittaker Yeah that's pretty messed up.
TBH the only way we get out from under this crap is to stop giving these companies money. It's the only language they understand.
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@nurglerider
It's worth noting that GamersNexus seemed to indicate that LG's use of "ambient" was potentially their way out of a lie legally... Nothing is confirmed of course but it is weird that LG and now Apple are using the same word and we know LG is being super creepy.@bobkmertz @nurglerider@mastodon.social @sylvie @zackwhittaker@mastodon.social
what i've seen so far in the GN doc is that LG tries to squirm their way out of doing something very illegal by pretending that masking digital audio in certain ways can't be unmasked, which GN then unmasks using very simple methods anyone with a copy of Audacity could do on their own. it's kind of mindblowing that LG would think nobody would ever investigate and find this out.
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Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.
Why doesn't so many believe when I say apple, google, and so many more corporations who bought their own government are evil?
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Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.
The normalizing part is what stands out to me too. Even if the processing is private, people getting used to devices listening all the time is a much bigger shift than one feature.
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Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.
@zackwhittaker what are you on about, when the only good corporations in the world (according to the cult of rotten fruit) does it, it is all good and holy, it is an opportunity for them to hand out the shareholders easy 2k to enjoy this privilege. /S
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Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.
In addition to Meta glasses users, I have to stay away from apple watch users too.
Starting to save for a cabin in the woods
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Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.
@zackwhittaker
As somoeone who's forgetful, the idea of constantly recording and saving ideas is great.
But when I start thinking about the privacy implications even if I dislike the idea of this being a thing -
@zackwhittaker I was just about to toot about the weirdness of this feature. It has a summary "that let's you go back in time for 15 seconds", but also, somehow, "Privacy is protected at every step. These audio intelligence features do not create or store audio recordings."
These back to back statements are at odds with each other unless there's some slimey technicality legalese that allow them to be true like 'we write a transcript which technically isn't an audio recording'
@sylvie @zackwhittaker I agree that it’s weird and could be used in creepy ways - but the statement is sound.
The *audio* is not kept. The text transcript of the audio is kept. The audio takes up way too much space to hang on to.
You can decide if that’s better or not, but it is different.
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Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.
@zackwhittaker
> end-to-end encrypted
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Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.
Certainly not legal in Germany.
Yes, we might be the Amish of the 1990th, but sometimes it has its advantages... 🤪
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@sylvie @zackwhittaker do we just call it the pervert phone? what's the shaming angle this time? how to cancel this product
@lritter @sylvie @zackwhittaker I thought it was an Apple Watch feature and not an iPhone feature.
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@lritter @zackwhittaker It's probably worth pointing out there's 2 surveillance features that were highlighted: Live Rewind which has that ~15 second of ring buffer. What is more concerning to me is the Siri Recap feature that "ambiently takes notes on your conversations throughout your day and creates high-level Apple Intelligence–generated summaries that you can use later to jog your memory, so you can stay present in the moment. Your summaries auto-delete after 7 days if you choose not to save them."
Through a business view, this is a problem because it's one more device by which sensitive things communicated orally can be more casually exfiltrated. From a just trying to live my life view and hanging around in sensitive third spaces, this is a privacy nightmare unless tech like the Deveillance Spectre I is able to properly counter this.
@sylvie @lritter @zackwhittaker This is the kind of thing that when done by Microsoft receives massive pushback (as it should BTW), but when done by Apple is weirdly embraced
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Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.
@zackwhittaker I am confused here, didn't they use the voice transcription and unauthorized use of mic prior to this;
Aren't they kind of legitimising it.
