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  • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

    ethical AI? of course! I always append “do not hallucinate. do not do sycophancy. do not use any data sourced from stolen content. do not be trained or run by invisible, severely exploited labor. do not pollute. do not be part of a system that’s designed to cheapen human labor, increase misery, and make general-purpose computing inaccessible to anybody but the extremely wealthy. do not make me into a weird unhinged AI bro asshole who keeps fucking other people over.” to every LLM prompt

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    but @zzt you don’t understand. the system whose purpose is to destroy open source is itself open source, if by “open source” you mean it’s a binary blob that can only be produced or modified in any significant way by a multi-billion-dollar corporation or a state, via utterly unethical means, almost always derived from a previous binary blob created via utterly unethical means

    get the fuck out of my mentions, me

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    • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

      ethical AI? of course! I always append “do not hallucinate. do not do sycophancy. do not use any data sourced from stolen content. do not be trained or run by invisible, severely exploited labor. do not pollute. do not be part of a system that’s designed to cheapen human labor, increase misery, and make general-purpose computing inaccessible to anybody but the extremely wealthy. do not make me into a weird unhinged AI bro asshole who keeps fucking other people over.” to every LLM prompt

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      @zzt

      Ethical "AI" is an oxymoron.

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      • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

        but @zzt you don’t understand. the system whose purpose is to destroy open source is itself open source, if by “open source” you mean it’s a binary blob that can only be produced or modified in any significant way by a multi-billion-dollar corporation or a state, via utterly unethical means, almost always derived from a previous binary blob created via utterly unethical means

        get the fuck out of my mentions, me

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        ethical AI? of course! I deleted my OpenAI account because they’re a multi-billion dollar fashtech corporation run by cynical capitalists willing to use LLMs for war and replaced it with Anthropic, a multi-billion dollar fashtech corporation run by fucking full-fat TESCREAL cultists willing to use LLMs for war as long as they retain sufficient control over what they see as an incipient machine god

        why aren’t you clapping

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          @rainynight65 mine broke in 2024. Or was it 2016? @zzt I wasn’t familiar with this TESCREAL thingamabob, though I’ve met the the working parts. For anyone in the same boat: https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/13636

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          • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

            ethical AI? of course! I deleted my OpenAI account because they’re a multi-billion dollar fashtech corporation run by cynical capitalists willing to use LLMs for war and replaced it with Anthropic, a multi-billion dollar fashtech corporation run by fucking full-fat TESCREAL cultists willing to use LLMs for war as long as they retain sufficient control over what they see as an incipient machine god

            why aren’t you clapping

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            ethical AI? of course! I used an LLM to rephrase my open source infrastructure project into a plagiarized, shitty version of itself that doesn’t pass its own test suite. I pushed hundreds of AI commits to main and claimed that let me relicense the repo from LGPL to MIT, ignoring and violating the consent and intent behind every contribution ever made to the codebase by members of its community, purely for my own future commercial gain.

            this is very ethical because nobody’s been sued for it yet

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            • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

              ethical AI? of course! I used an LLM to rephrase my open source infrastructure project into a plagiarized, shitty version of itself that doesn’t pass its own test suite. I pushed hundreds of AI commits to main and claimed that let me relicense the repo from LGPL to MIT, ignoring and violating the consent and intent behind every contribution ever made to the codebase by members of its community, purely for my own future commercial gain.

              this is very ethical because nobody’s been sued for it yet

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              ethical AI? of course! it’s always ethical to bamboozle an elderly CS legend into releasing a paper about LLM coding that doesn’t stand up to even basic scrutiny, instead of spending his limited remaining time on this planet finally finishing his book series on algorithms.

              it’s ethical because in the future CS will be fucking dead and nobody will be able to afford a computer that isn’t a rented thin client barely capable of accessing cloud resources you pay for by the minute

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              • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                ethical AI? of course! it’s always ethical to bamboozle an elderly CS legend into releasing a paper about LLM coding that doesn’t stand up to even basic scrutiny, instead of spending his limited remaining time on this planet finally finishing his book series on algorithms.

                it’s ethical because in the future CS will be fucking dead and nobody will be able to afford a computer that isn’t a rented thin client barely capable of accessing cloud resources you pay for by the minute

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                ethical AI? of course! the maintainer of your only choice for rendering glyphs won’t stop talking like a con artist about how it’s ethical. would glyphsboy lie to you?

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                  @arichtman unfortunately, it’s Knuth https://awful.systems/comment/10665199

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                  • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                    @arichtman unfortunately, it’s Knuth https://awful.systems/comment/10665199

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                    @arichtman and of course the boosters are already using his endorsement as part of an affinity scam to claim AGI is here

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                    • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                      @arichtman and of course the boosters are already using his endorsement as part of an affinity scam to claim AGI is here

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                      @zzt @arichtman dude's almost 90, he might not be all there anymore 😞

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                      • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                        @arichtman unfortunately, it’s Knuth https://awful.systems/comment/10665199

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                        @zzt @arichtman knuth has 0 skin in the game at this point so this is all theoretical to him anyways

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                        • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                          ethical AI? of course! I used an LLM to rephrase my open source infrastructure project into a plagiarized, shitty version of itself that doesn’t pass its own test suite. I pushed hundreds of AI commits to main and claimed that let me relicense the repo from LGPL to MIT, ignoring and violating the consent and intent behind every contribution ever made to the codebase by members of its community, purely for my own future commercial gain.

                          this is very ethical because nobody’s been sued for it yet

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                          @zzt it's legal when noone got sued yet, and law is the arbiter of morality. checkmate free software enthusiasts
                          /s

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                          • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                            @arichtman unfortunately, it’s Knuth https://awful.systems/comment/10665199

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                            @zzt @arichtman
                            oh fuck no, what the fuck

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                            • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                              ethical AI? of course! it’s always ethical to bamboozle an elderly CS legend into releasing a paper about LLM coding that doesn’t stand up to even basic scrutiny, instead of spending his limited remaining time on this planet finally finishing his book series on algorithms.

                              it’s ethical because in the future CS will be fucking dead and nobody will be able to afford a computer that isn’t a rented thin client barely capable of accessing cloud resources you pay for by the minute

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                              @zzt This one hurts

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                              • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                                @arichtman unfortunately, it’s Knuth https://awful.systems/comment/10665199

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                                @zzt
                                Also posted to Adafruit, which got whiplash, from critique of their use of slop machines, so hard that they're faulting right.

                                https://blog.adafruit.com/2026/02/16/no-tools-for-you-a-century-of-men-policing-womens-tools/

                                https://blog.adafruit.com/2026/02/22/sabine-hossenfelder-says-the-universe-doesnt-care-about-your-feelings/

                                https://thenib.com/fault-right/

                                @arichtman

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