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    RE: https://mastodon.social/@WarnerCrocker/115940829672022950

    Here's something that's wrong with our education system: I knew about slavery and Jim Crow and all that, and knew it was terrible, but until a Black woman wrote a book about it, and I read it about 4 years ago, I had NO IDEA that the Nazis LITERALLY built their race-based systems based on US standards.

    In fact, they dialed back some of it, deciding that going back to a great-grandparent was too far.

    The book is Isabel Wilkerson's Caste: The Origins Of Our Discontents. Very much worth the read.

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      RE: https://mastodon.social/@WarnerCrocker/115940829672022950

      Here's something that's wrong with our education system: I knew about slavery and Jim Crow and all that, and knew it was terrible, but until a Black woman wrote a book about it, and I read it about 4 years ago, I had NO IDEA that the Nazis LITERALLY built their race-based systems based on US standards.

      In fact, they dialed back some of it, deciding that going back to a great-grandparent was too far.

      The book is Isabel Wilkerson's Caste: The Origins Of Our Discontents. Very much worth the read.

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      The word they used in the American south to describe a person who was 1/8 Black, i.e. one great-grandparent, was "octaroon". They literally made a word for it.

      And the Nazis--the LITERAL Nazis!--were like, no, that's too far. We'll only arrest and imprison and torture and kill people who are 1/8 Jewish.

      So yeah, congratulations, America. We've gotten so bad again that people are ceasing to call the state police "gestapo" in favor of "slave patrols".

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        RE: https://mastodon.social/@WarnerCrocker/115940829672022950

        Here's something that's wrong with our education system: I knew about slavery and Jim Crow and all that, and knew it was terrible, but until a Black woman wrote a book about it, and I read it about 4 years ago, I had NO IDEA that the Nazis LITERALLY built their race-based systems based on US standards.

        In fact, they dialed back some of it, deciding that going back to a great-grandparent was too far.

        The book is Isabel Wilkerson's Caste: The Origins Of Our Discontents. Very much worth the read.

        crankylinuxuser@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
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        @bennomatic

        Or, reparations were indeed approved of and paid out after the end of the civil war.

        Did formerly enslaved people get paid? HAHAHAHAHAH😂😂😂😂

        Nope, it was the slave owners who got paid for losing their "property".

        https://aas.princeton.edu/news/when-slaveowners-got-reparations

        You'd think people saved from slavery would be made whole. Hardly. The North was only mildly better, and really, not that much different. Hell, they approved reparations.

        And southern traitor politicians got their fucking jobs back. Me? I would have tried every one of them for treason, and hanged them on the steps to Congress. And knowing that, probably would have stopped J6 as well.

        You hang traitors, not give them better jobs.

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          The word they used in the American south to describe a person who was 1/8 Black, i.e. one great-grandparent, was "octaroon". They literally made a word for it.

          And the Nazis--the LITERAL Nazis!--were like, no, that's too far. We'll only arrest and imprison and torture and kill people who are 1/8 Jewish.

          So yeah, congratulations, America. We've gotten so bad again that people are ceasing to call the state police "gestapo" in favor of "slave patrols".

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          Assuming we break the bad guys' hold on our government, a "return to normal" is NOT what we want. We need to do so. much. better.

          Women deserve better. Minorities deserve better. LGBTQIA+ deserve better. Poor people deserve better.

          And honestly, if they (we, I guess, since I'm a white man) could get out of their (our) own way, middle class white men deserve better, too, and they'd be happier in a world where they weren't constantly putting out fires they themselves had set.

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          • bennomatic@appdot.netB bennomatic@appdot.net

            RE: https://mastodon.social/@WarnerCrocker/115940829672022950

            Here's something that's wrong with our education system: I knew about slavery and Jim Crow and all that, and knew it was terrible, but until a Black woman wrote a book about it, and I read it about 4 years ago, I had NO IDEA that the Nazis LITERALLY built their race-based systems based on US standards.

            In fact, they dialed back some of it, deciding that going back to a great-grandparent was too far.

            The book is Isabel Wilkerson's Caste: The Origins Of Our Discontents. Very much worth the read.

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            @bennomatic I'm relatively new to Australia (emigrated here) but continue to learn about Australian history... which isn't too dissimilar.

            For example, going back to the "beginning" of the US... from what I could find (e.g. link below) indigenous Americans went from about 10 million, before colonisation, to about 300 000 by 1900. 1/2

            https://hmh.org/library/research/genocide-of-indigenous-peoples-guide/

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              @bennomatic I'm relatively new to Australia (emigrated here) but continue to learn about Australian history... which isn't too dissimilar.

              For example, going back to the "beginning" of the US... from what I could find (e.g. link below) indigenous Americans went from about 10 million, before colonisation, to about 300 000 by 1900. 1/2

              https://hmh.org/library/research/genocide-of-indigenous-peoples-guide/

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              @bennomatic In Australia (link below) indigenous peoples went from about 1 - 1.5 million down to about 100 000 by the early 1900s.

              We've still got problems, but there are many trying to confront them. E.g. a lot of push in education to learn about Australia's indigenous past, culture etc.

              E.g. the school I'm at has won awards for it (not any of my doing, but some impressive, hard working colleagues).

              There's hope, that the next generations will do better. 2/2

              https://australian.museum/learn/first-nations/genocide-in-australia/

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