Dear Europe,
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Dear Europe,
I know you're having a tremendous time yelling at Americans, and fair enough for that, but get your houses in order because what happened in the United States is being orchestrated in your countries, and it may prevail as long as you let this sort of thing grow.
@alexwild Don’t think for a second we’re unaware of the consequences of having a neonazi party setting the agenda in a weak government
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I can't tell you enough how the "look at what those dumb Americans did to themselves" blinds you from what is happening to all the established institutions, and sends you down the path to further disintegration.
@alexwild
Thanks for the warning, but my impression is that most people who are lucid enough to see the abysmal madness in the US also see the madness in their own countries.The main problem is the people who do not recognise stupidity anywhere.
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I can't tell you enough how the "look at what those dumb Americans did to themselves" blinds you from what is happening to all the established institutions, and sends you down the path to further disintegration.
@alexwild It shouldn't blind, but it does. "It couldn't happen to me" is standard defence reaction. The systems work similarly all over the world. Some countries have built better safeguards, but they might not be enough. All this hate is so sad. And predictable.
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@alexwild In every western country.
This is an international attack of unprecedented scale and funding.
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I can't tell you enough how the "look at what those dumb Americans did to themselves" blinds you from what is happening to all the established institutions, and sends you down the path to further disintegration.
@alexwild I mean, we are aware and worried, trust me.
But to be clear, a lot of the rise of the far right in Europe is a US export. The 2008/09 financial crisis was caused there. Even the EU migrant crisis has causal ties to US imperialism in the middle east. Facebook, Twitter and YouTube come from the US. Trumpism is being actively imported here. And now, the US has made it official foreign policy to undermine European democracy.
Divesting from the US is part of getting our house in order.
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Dear Europe,
I know you're having a tremendous time yelling at Americans, and fair enough for that, but get your houses in order because what happened in the United States is being orchestrated in your countries, and it may prevail as long as you let this sort of thing grow.
Honestly, the global right wing is a cancer within humanity.
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Dear Europe,
I know you're having a tremendous time yelling at Americans, and fair enough for that, but get your houses in order because what happened in the United States is being orchestrated in your countries, and it may prevail as long as you let this sort of thing grow.
@alexwild trust me , i am both yelling at the usa as my own house....
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Dear Europe,
I know you're having a tremendous time yelling at Americans, and fair enough for that, but get your houses in order because what happened in the United States is being orchestrated in your countries, and it may prevail as long as you let this sort of thing grow.
@alexwild No one is saying that the US has a monopoly on racism, but we strive to have a better society for everyone, as difficult as that might be.
And as a catalan believe me when I say I've seen and gone through some discrimination, but never to those extremes.
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Dear Europe,
I know you're having a tremendous time yelling at Americans, and fair enough for that, but get your houses in order because what happened in the United States is being orchestrated in your countries, and it may prevail as long as you let this sort of thing grow.
@alexwild In Winston Churchill's history of the years prior to WWII, he bemoans over and over again how Europe could have kept Germany free and peaceful, if only they hadn't taken up the policy of repeatedly capitulating to a madman.
Why am I reading this now? No reason...
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@alexwild I mean, we are aware and worried, trust me.
But to be clear, a lot of the rise of the far right in Europe is a US export. The 2008/09 financial crisis was caused there. Even the EU migrant crisis has causal ties to US imperialism in the middle east. Facebook, Twitter and YouTube come from the US. Trumpism is being actively imported here. And now, the US has made it official foreign policy to undermine European democracy.
Divesting from the US is part of getting our house in order.
@Merovius Yes, divesting from the U.S., and sanctioning our officials, are definitely part of getting your house in order.
A lot of the fascism is coming from the United States. But there is huge interchange among the U.S. and the British and Hungarian fascists in particular. It's not entirely one-way, and it isn't clear to me the coup in the U.S. would have worked without the international assist.
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Dear Europe,
I know you're having a tremendous time yelling at Americans, and fair enough for that, but get your houses in order because what happened in the United States is being orchestrated in your countries, and it may prevail as long as you let this sort of thing grow.
@alexwild Correct. The anti-migrant psychosis brewing across much of Europe and the world, which was triggered by neoliberal policies designed to squeeze as much wealth as possible from society, is just one manifestation of the massive problem we are facing. Sweden specifically has a long history of racism, which they are in denial of but any search engine will confirm, Denmark too and the UK. Add into this mix the algos and you get what we are seeing in the US today or Myanmar some years ago.
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Dear Europe,
I know you're having a tremendous time yelling at Americans, and fair enough for that, but get your houses in order because what happened in the United States is being orchestrated in your countries, and it may prevail as long as you let this sort of thing grow.
@alexwild we know, but it's the same as at your place. Most do not care enough.
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@Merovius Yes, divesting from the U.S., and sanctioning our officials, are definitely part of getting your house in order.
A lot of the fascism is coming from the United States. But there is huge interchange among the U.S. and the British and Hungarian fascists in particular. It's not entirely one-way, and it isn't clear to me the coup in the U.S. would have worked without the international assist.
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The AfD is full of neonazis, I don't think that christianity plays a big role there? Germany is more secular than the USA.
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@alexwild It shouldn't blind, but it does. "It couldn't happen to me" is standard defence reaction. The systems work similarly all over the world. Some countries have built better safeguards, but they might not be enough. All this hate is so sad. And predictable.
@Szescstopni @alexwild This moment in "Cabaret" movie is just so perfect. This man represents all of us, watching and nodding with perplexity.
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@alexwild I recommend Carney's speech, he brings the situation to the point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btqHDhO4h10
@NatureMC @alexwild
Carney talks a good game. I even think he meant most of what he said. But at home he gutted the national climate change policy (prompting its architect to resign from Cabinet), is gutting the public service at the worst possible time. He is leaning hard into the Canadian petro-state, which in the end is a cog in the omnicidal machinery we're dealing with. He is putting in mechanisms that will allow the executive to circumvent established laws. -
Dear Europe,
I know you're having a tremendous time yelling at Americans, and fair enough for that, but get your houses in order because what happened in the United States is being orchestrated in your countries, and it may prevail as long as you let this sort of thing grow.
@alexwild also, hypothetically, anyone doing anything about it who has a lick of sense isn't talking to journalists or documenting their day on social media.
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@Merovius Yes, divesting from the U.S., and sanctioning our officials, are definitely part of getting your house in order.
A lot of the fascism is coming from the United States. But there is huge interchange among the U.S. and the British and Hungarian fascists in particular. It's not entirely one-way, and it isn't clear to me the coup in the U.S. would have worked without the international assist.
@alexwild I won’t claim to understand how US politics developed. But my impression is that the current wave of democratic backsliding started around 2010, on the back of the Financial Crisis. And the tea party was then as well - and the US has been on this path before even then.
And my impression has never been, that most USians give much of a shit about EU politics.Dunno. As I said we are aware and worried. But it sounds like you think US authoritarianism is new? Because I don’t think it is.
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@dianshuo @Merovius that is precisely the attitude that will lead to fascists taking over your countries.
I am not trying to absolve Americans. I am trying to sound an alarm as I watch too many of you about to step on your own rake. The more you insist on interpreting these events through the lens of traditional geopolitics, the more blind you are to your own vulnerabilities.
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Dear Europe,
I know you're having a tremendous time yelling at Americans, and fair enough for that, but get your houses in order because what happened in the United States is being orchestrated in your countries, and it may prevail as long as you let this sort of thing grow.
@alexwild I agree the US is massively fucked up right now, but the EU isn't all sunshine and rainbows. Come on!
