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  • jerry@infosec.exchangeJ jerry@infosec.exchange

    @Viss though I will say, I bet my hammer could tell some stories if it could talk. Whew.

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    #37

    @jerry hah! totally!

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    • jerry@infosec.exchangeJ jerry@infosec.exchange

      @Viss the bots have gotten very good at gaming the moderated signups. Residential IP, protonmail or gmail address, on topic reason for joining, then lay low, make a few posts, follow some accounts, then start posting about how unfair it was for Ukraine to start a war or how Christians are the most persecuted religion. It’s starting to make me crazy. Report them when you see them.

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      #38

      @jerry @Viss is it finally time to bring back the web of trust??

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      • jerry@infosec.exchangeJ jerry@infosec.exchange

        @Viss that is painful to think about. I know it happens. I also use Claude, but I don’t really talk to my hammer or my jigsaw, so I have a hard time relating. Maybe I’m just too old.

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        #39

        @jerry @Viss your hammer and your jigsaw don't talk in the first person and shine your shit when you use them well. Seems the AI psychosis can come for anyone these days.

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        • nf3xn@mastodon.socialN nf3xn@mastodon.social

          @jerry @Viss your hammer and your jigsaw don't talk in the first person and shine your shit when you use them well. Seems the AI psychosis can come for anyone these days.

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          #40

          @nf3xn @jerry @Viss

          Not yet anyway.

          Perhaps in future you'll hit your thumb and the hammer pipes up "looks like you're trying to hammer a nail would you like me to help you"

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          • jerry@infosec.exchangeJ jerry@infosec.exchange

            @Viss @linuxandyarn if you’re posting follower only, they you’re right, you have to be a follower to see them. Few people seem to post that way though.

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            #41

            @jerry @Viss @linuxandyarn I do those sometimes - more than anything just for slightly more personal stuff I don't want boosted outside my sphere. Sure, it can get screen capped and I don't have my follows locked down, but it's something at least.

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            • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

              @jerry @Viss @linuxandyarn I do those sometimes - more than anything just for slightly more personal stuff I don't want boosted outside my sphere. Sure, it can get screen capped and I don't have my follows locked down, but it's something at least.

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              #42

              @JessTheUnstill @jerry @Viss @linuxandyarn

              I do "Followers Only" by default and have to approve every follow request. I've been doxxed and I didn't like it.

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              • smallsees@social.dropbear.xyzS smallsees@social.dropbear.xyz

                @nf3xn @jerry @Viss

                Not yet anyway.

                Perhaps in future you'll hit your thumb and the hammer pipes up "looks like you're trying to hammer a nail would you like me to help you"

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                #43

                @smallsees @nf3xn @jerry @Viss

                Trusting your own judgement on ‘AI’ is a huge risk

                “Don’t self-experiment with psychological hazards!”

                https://www.baldurbjarnason.com/2025/trusting-your-own-judgement-on-ai/

                https://www.baldurbjarnason.com/2025/followup-on-trusting-your-own-judgement/

                “You can’t trust your own instincts or judgement about Large Language Models and chatbots because they trigger a number of cognitive biases and psychological “effects” that short-circuit our judgement.”

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                • viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #44

                  @djb @smallsees @nf3xn @jerry i talk to gpt like tony stark talks to that robotic arm that keeps fucking up in ironman 1

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                  • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                    @FritzAdalis sure but some are very clearly malicious. and i dont mean like 'they hack shit', i mean they are horrible sociopathic narcisistic fuckbags who spearhead dogpiling campaigns and will sick com kids on you to harrass you for months. and they will 100% pull that shit where they create a sockpuppet account to watch you, in case you make an off color comment thats marked follower-only, so that they can dogpile you over it

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                    #45

                    @Viss @FritzAdalis sounds like my ex 💩

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                    • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                      is anyone else getting random follows from accounts on infosec.exchange and defcon.social where the account is like a day or two old, has barely any profile filled out, has zero posts, zero followers, but is already follwing a few dozen or a few hundred accounts? seems super shady. ive been blocking them on sight

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                      #46

                      @Viss Seeing a lot of new accounts on mastodon.social in the last few days with “keyboard smash” names like dhdhdh or kkkfffff. They follow tons of people, and weren’t posting at all. Most recently I’ve seen them making a single post like “hhh”.

                      The admins are battling them and I’m reporting those that follow me but it’s the first big wave I’ve seen as a user in a long time.

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                      • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                        is anyone else getting random follows from accounts on infosec.exchange and defcon.social where the account is like a day or two old, has barely any profile filled out, has zero posts, zero followers, but is already follwing a few dozen or a few hundred accounts? seems super shady. ive been blocking them on sight

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                        #47

                        @Viss Not yet. (And I have accounts on both, and not even seeing it on the “local” accounts.)

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                        • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                          is anyone else getting random follows from accounts on infosec.exchange and defcon.social where the account is like a day or two old, has barely any profile filled out, has zero posts, zero followers, but is already follwing a few dozen or a few hundred accounts? seems super shady. ive been blocking them on sight

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                          #48

                          @Viss Yeah I've had a couple of those very recently. I just had one earlier today, went back to my notifications to view the account again, and the account seems to be gone now.

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                          • prometheus@infosec.exchangeP prometheus@infosec.exchange

                            @Viss @FritzAdalis sounds like my ex 💩

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                            #49

                            @Prometheus @FritzAdalis security influencers

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                            • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                              is anyone else getting random follows from accounts on infosec.exchange and defcon.social where the account is like a day or two old, has barely any profile filled out, has zero posts, zero followers, but is already follwing a few dozen or a few hundred accounts? seems super shady. ive been blocking them on sight

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                              #50

                              @Viss You basically described my account. I joined recently, don't care about followers or my profile. I just like to read stuff and occasionaly comment. I'm probably a "reply guy"? (oh, great) I used to go to the trending page every day before creating an account, but I wanted to be able to mute some accounts (that were trending rather often) that I didn't like. I understand that the urge to block my account would be strong and I don't blame anyone, it's what makes this place better IMHO.

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                              • C chapter1@mastodon.social

                                @Viss You basically described my account. I joined recently, don't care about followers or my profile. I just like to read stuff and occasionaly comment. I'm probably a "reply guy"? (oh, great) I used to go to the trending page every day before creating an account, but I wanted to be able to mute some accounts (that were trending rather often) that I didn't like. I understand that the urge to block my account would be strong and I don't blame anyone, it's what makes this place better IMHO.

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                                #51

                                @chapter1 but you have posts

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                                • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                  @chapter1 but you have posts

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                                  #52

                                  @Viss True. But I might not have any just as well.

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                                  • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                    is anyone else getting random follows from accounts on infosec.exchange and defcon.social where the account is like a day or two old, has barely any profile filled out, has zero posts, zero followers, but is already follwing a few dozen or a few hundred accounts? seems super shady. ive been blocking them on sight

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                                    #53

                                    @Viss Yes, I get these. Some of them follow ~exclusively femmes, which is creepy af. 🫠

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                                    • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                      @jerry im in several ai/llm chatgroups and the shit i see on the daily is brain melty. if i could still drink i would have pickled my brain by now. one dude, someone you know, is exhibiting straight up signs of obvious ai psychosis. like, dude talks to claude like its his pal. he has conversations with it like its a person. and hes openly saying people dont need to bother with the basics anymore 'because ai'. its bananas.

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                                      #54

                                      @Viss @jerry I’ve seen a few people in non-AI chat rooms responding to peoples’ questions with “Google AI says …” and then a literal copy/paste of the entire output.

                                      It’s a DEFCON group, dude… if the person asking the question wanted a bad AI answer they would have asked AI themselves.

                                      It’s like that guy who answers every question with by sending you the first two links to a google search for what you asked, as if others didn’t try googling before asking…. but worse.

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                                      • jerry@infosec.exchangeJ jerry@infosec.exchange

                                        @Viss @silhouette residential US IP addresses, tor exit nodes, and lately protonvpn. They have figured out how to mass create proton accounts because the last few day, protonmail.com and protonvpn IPs have become the strongest signal of a bot (but it’s also used by a lot of legit people)

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                                        #55

                                        @jerry @Viss @silhouette Well that explains why I'm getting blocked all the time. I use ProtonVPN now and again. Been using a residential proxy also. But even when using my actual IP now getting blocked.

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                                        • edbruce@infosec.exchangeE edbruce@infosec.exchange

                                          @jerry @Viss @silhouette Well that explains why I'm getting blocked all the time. I use ProtonVPN now and again. Been using a residential proxy also. But even when using my actual IP now getting blocked.

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                                          #56

                                          @EdBruce @Viss @silhouette to be clear, I'm not blocking those - just an observation about where recent bot signups are coming from. I'm not sure why you would be blocked sometimes.

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