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  • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Two things can be true at the same time:
    1. copyright is a bit broken and needs reforms
    2. the way "AI" can only be trained by complete disregarding copyright is unacceptable

    "But you used to criticise copyright" is not the gotcha you might think it is.

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    • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

      Two things can be true at the same time:
      1. copyright is a bit broken and needs reforms
      2. the way "AI" can only be trained by complete disregarding copyright is unacceptable

      "But you used to criticise copyright" is not the gotcha you might think it is.

      smilingdemon@mastodon.artS This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @tante 100%. This is one of the few areas I really disagree with Cory Doctorow. I am not remotely convinced his solution of *abolish the whole lot and make it a massive free for all* actually gets us to a better place and not just a different bad one.

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      • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

        Two things can be true at the same time:
        1. copyright is a bit broken and needs reforms
        2. the way "AI" can only be trained by complete disregarding copyright is unacceptable

        "But you used to criticise copyright" is not the gotcha you might think it is.

        djgummikuh@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @tante quite frankly "a bit broken" is the understatement of the year, but yeah, generally I follow your point

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        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

          Two things can be true at the same time:
          1. copyright is a bit broken and needs reforms
          2. the way "AI" can only be trained by complete disregarding copyright is unacceptable

          "But you used to criticise copyright" is not the gotcha you might think it is.

          zauberlaus@chaos.socialZ This user is from outside of this forum
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          @tante well it might not apply to you, but there were and are radical critics of copyright

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