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Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

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  • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

    @bkuhn It's right there in the second paragraph:

    The US automaker hired over 350 veteran engineers, referred to internally as “gray beards”, over the past three years in order to address mistakes made by automated systems.

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    #45

    @evacide Oops, sorry, I missed it! (I must have missed it when I read and then maybe searched for grey rather than gray, but I thought I searched for beard).

    Anyway, thanks for putting in quotes, although maybe better not to promulgate their bad word choice?

    Thank you again for sharing the article!

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    • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

      Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

      "Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."

      https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html

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      #46

      @evacide
      > Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product.

      Knowing that a CEO's job is to be that stupid, still did not prepare me from psychic damage from this sentence…

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      • dzwiedziu@mastodon.socialD dzwiedziu@mastodon.social

        @evacide
        > Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product.

        Knowing that a CEO's job is to be that stupid, still did not prepare me from psychic damage from this sentence…

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        #47

        @dzwiedziu @evacide

        Trying inventing multiple, modular, utterly complementary solutions that make "bad" requirements effectively impossible:

        - only to discover that no one wants it
        - until and unless they can steal it from you
        - for their own commodification and profit

        Which is why I eat my popcorn and chuckle, softly. Me and my bad attitude love getting every, single receipt these days.

        Bring it daily lately.

        🪔

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        • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

          Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

          "Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."

          https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html

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          #48

          @evacide
          and the fascinating thing about this is that the execs who laid off the people got bonuses and awards for it. And the same execs who then solved that problem by hiring back some of the people got bonuses and awards for it. And the people who tried to keep things afloat while the experienced workers were not available to help most likely got poor performance reviews because "they didn't prompt the AI correctly".

          This is oversimplifying things, but structurally it's what I see happening in quite a few places. Layoffs justified by AI, sky-rocketing workloads for the remaining workforce combined with lower performance ratings / lower rewards, and generous rewards for the execs perpetrating the nonsense.

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          • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

            Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

            "Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."

            https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html

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            #49

            @evacide aka we fucked up !!

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            • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

              Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

              "Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."

              https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html

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              #50

              @evacide
              * Laughs in #TacomaGame * (Part II)
              #ObsolescenceDay #Union

              https://kolektiva.social/@unsponsoredgeek/116679386908591213

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              • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

                "Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."

                https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html

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                #51

                @evacide

                awesome news, now bring back the small sedan

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                • emmohamed123456@mastodon.socialE emmohamed123456@mastodon.social

                  @evacide You have many followers, please help me share my pinned post. I need to buy the medication.

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                  #52

                  @emmohamed123456@mastodon.social @evacide@hachyderm.io You can help a Palestinian family with your reach. Please do the right thing.

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                  • ohmu@social.seattle.wa.usO ohmu@social.seattle.wa.us

                    @ricardoharvin
                    We might just disagree and the distinction probably doesn't matter.
                    It's been useful to be aware of in public sector labor negotiation. A lot of it is about costs, for sure. But some of it is that exectives emotionally need to feel powerful. Example: Return to office pushes. It is much more expensive maintaining workplaces. But the executives get itchy when they go too long not seeing staff at desks when they walk around the building.

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                    #53

                    @ohmu It seems you're focused more on individual and specific scenarios whereas I'm focused on the full and complete history of work and of corporate business, generally.

                    The systems and how they maintain and consolidate control, power, and money, not how or why individuals do so.

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                    • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                      Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

                      "Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."

                      https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html

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                      #54

                      @evacide if that were me you best believe my salary is 2x what it was last time.

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                      • ricardoharvin@mstdn.socialR ricardoharvin@mstdn.social

                        @ohmu It seems you're focused more on individual and specific scenarios whereas I'm focused on the full and complete history of work and of corporate business, generally.

                        The systems and how they maintain and consolidate control, power, and money, not how or why individuals do so.

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                        #55

                        @ohmu What I'm talking about basically applies throughout all of history, in different ways, but especially in modern times with the rise of corporations.

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                        • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                          Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

                          "Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."

                          https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html

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                          #56

                          @evacide
                          I'm surprised they admitted they were wrong. Also a little impressed. That hasnt been in fashion among corporations for hmm some decades now?

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                          • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                            Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

                            "Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."

                            https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html

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                            #57

                            @evacide Worked about as well as tying a belt to the steering wheel, putting a brick on the gas pedal and going to sleep in the back seat.

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                            • kmck@mas.toK kmck@mas.to

                              @evacide Sad that some execs will lose their jobs over this colossal error. Surely?

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                              #58

                              @kmck @evacide maybe that’d happen in Japan, but not in the U.S.

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                              • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

                                "Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."

                                https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html

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                                #59

                                @evacide I hope those engineers held out for a 50% increase in compensation.

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                                • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                  Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

                                  "Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."

                                  https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html

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                                  #60

                                  @evacide Bookmarking that as the latest exhibit

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                                  • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

                                    @kmck @evacide

                                    Yeah, we don’t live in that kind of world anymore. Careless people ain’t never gotta take consequences

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                                    #61

                                    @GhostOnTheHalfShell @kmck @evacide Oh, I’m certain that if I’m careless at work or just unlucky, there will be consequences.

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                                      #62

                                      @Arapalla @brad @evacide My 2013 car has been going strong. I've really had virtually no troubles with it at all. Mind you, it was made before some of the most recent enshittification...

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                                      • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                        Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

                                        "Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."

                                        https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html

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                                        #63

                                        @evacide Sadly this only works because cars have such strict quality/safety requirements (as a whole.) Most sectors don't. Still, I hope it sends a powerful enough message that others might take note.

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                                        • brad@1040ste.netB brad@1040ste.net

                                          @evacide Wankers. That's Ford though - Found On Rubbish Dumps. They've always been shit.

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                                          #64

                                          @brad That's a new one. I've heard Fix Or Repair Daily and Found On Road Dead
                                          @evacide

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