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Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

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  • ricardoharvin@mstdn.socialR ricardoharvin@mstdn.social

    @ohmu It seems you're focused more on individual and specific scenarios whereas I'm focused on the full and complete history of work and of corporate business, generally.

    The systems and how they maintain and consolidate control, power, and money, not how or why individuals do so.

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    #55

    @ohmu What I'm talking about basically applies throughout all of history, in different ways, but especially in modern times with the rise of corporations.

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    • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

      Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

      "Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."

      https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html

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      #56

      @evacide
      I'm surprised they admitted they were wrong. Also a little impressed. That hasnt been in fashion among corporations for hmm some decades now?

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      • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

        Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

        "Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."

        https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html

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        #57

        @evacide Worked about as well as tying a belt to the steering wheel, putting a brick on the gas pedal and going to sleep in the back seat.

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        • kmck@mas.toK kmck@mas.to

          @evacide Sad that some execs will lose their jobs over this colossal error. Surely?

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          #58

          @kmck @evacide maybe that’d happen in Japan, but not in the U.S.

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          • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

            Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

            "Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."

            https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html

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            #59

            @evacide I hope those engineers held out for a 50% increase in compensation.

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            • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

              Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

              "Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."

              https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html

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              #60

              @evacide Bookmarking that as the latest exhibit

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              • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

                @kmck @evacide

                Yeah, we don’t live in that kind of world anymore. Careless people ain’t never gotta take consequences

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                #61

                @GhostOnTheHalfShell @kmck @evacide Oh, I’m certain that if I’m careless at work or just unlucky, there will be consequences.

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                • nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #62

                  @Arapalla @brad @evacide My 2013 car has been going strong. I've really had virtually no troubles with it at all. Mind you, it was made before some of the most recent enshittification...

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                  • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                    Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

                    "Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."

                    https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html

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                    #63

                    @evacide Sadly this only works because cars have such strict quality/safety requirements (as a whole.) Most sectors don't. Still, I hope it sends a powerful enough message that others might take note.

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                    • brad@1040ste.netB brad@1040ste.net

                      @evacide Wankers. That's Ford though - Found On Rubbish Dumps. They've always been shit.

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                      #64

                      @brad That's a new one. I've heard Fix Or Repair Daily and Found On Road Dead
                      @evacide

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                      • ricardoharvin@mstdn.socialR ricardoharvin@mstdn.social

                        @evacide Labor has always been and will always be the component of business that business hates most and works hardest to literally eliminate.

                        The cost of human labor is the biggest drain on business profits, and what business spends most of its efforts on eliminating, in every way it can imagine, and make legal, or at least weakly enforced.

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                        #65

                        @ricardoharvin @evacide It’s almost like they think market demand just magically appears. How many shitty trucks can you sell to a handful of billionaires?

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                        • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                          Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

                          "Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."

                          https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html

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                          #66

                          @evacide Old Hank Ford was a shitty old guy, but he knew where his market was coming from.

                          A good example of Hardin’s Tragedy of the Commons was billionaires thinking other billionaires will pay their customers.

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                          • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                            Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

                            "Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."

                            https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html

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                            #67

                            @evacide a chance for Ford engineers to make an old joke become real

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                            • kmck@mas.toK kmck@mas.to

                              @evacide Sad that some execs will lose their jobs over this colossal error. Surely?

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                              #68

                              @kmck @evacide yeah exactly this. There was no mistake, everyone know exactly what they were doing. Bunch of people got a big fat bonus for the initial layoffs and won't see any blowback for the consequences.

                              Grinds my gears that everyone is parroting the "haha, we didn't know, oopsie so silly!" line

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                              • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

                                "Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."

                                https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html

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                                #69

                                @evacide the ones with shares don't know nothing about production, for them it's only a money in money out process
                                For this reason ai for them seems a so good solution
                                But still they don't get it, for them it's all a issue of abstract numbers

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                                • nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.socialN nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social

                                  @Arapalla @brad @evacide My 2013 car has been going strong. I've really had virtually no troubles with it at all. Mind you, it was made before some of the most recent enshittification...

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                                  #70

                                  @nazokiyoubinbou @Arapalla @brad @evacide I had a decent Ford once. It was made by Kia.

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                                  • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                    Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

                                    "Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."

                                    https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html

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                                    #71

                                    @evacide I guess they couldn't afford us white beards

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                                    • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                      Ford rehires "greybeard" engineers after its push for AI automation backfires.

                                      "Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and ingesting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product."

                                      https://www.the-independent.com/tech/ford-ai-automation-human-workers-b3003787.html

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                                      #72

                                      @evacide Hey 👋

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                                      • enema_cowboy@dotnet.socialE enema_cowboy@dotnet.social

                                        @jamesmarshall @evacide

                                        Isn't one the reason why executive "merit" the big bucks is that they aren't so easily fooled by snake-oil peddlers?

                                        "Marge, it takes two to lie. One to lie, another to listen."
                                        -Homer Simpson

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                                        #73

                                        @Enema_Cowboy Meritocracy is a superposition of two reasonings:

                                        • This managing job is so simple that it doesn't matter that it's given to somebody's nephew.

                                        • This managing job is so hard that we have to weed out everybody who has wasted their career in non-managing jobs.

                                        @jamesmarshall @evacide

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                                        • su_liam@mas.toS su_liam@mas.to

                                          @GhostOnTheHalfShell @kmck @evacide Oh, I’m certain that if I’m careless at work or just unlucky, there will be consequences.

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                                          #74

                                          @su_liam @kmck @evacide

                                          Well, you and I are hardly the right kind of people. Only the right kind of people can be careless get away with it.

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