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  3. We're looking to buy a flail mower (slagleklipper, klepelmaaier) and found Deleks.

We're looking to buy a flail mower (slagleklipper, klepelmaaier) and found Deleks.

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  • pepijn@mastodon.onlineP pepijn@mastodon.online

    In gardening tools: we have two Stihl equipment batteries. These things are designed to last a decade of daily professional use.

    I just learned they have a bluetooth module capable of sharing a bunch information: critically the total ever usage time and error states.

    Apart of simple connectivity stuff like mice or cordless keyboards I think this is the first time ever I have a basic technological device where bluetooth is an actual bonus.

    #gardening #technology

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    #21

    Btw. We decided to not buy a large machine (flail mower or otherwise).

    An "Avatar style mower" would've worked to create lovely paths on our woodland and open up other overgrown areas for biodiversity. But: the machines combination of environmental impact and high initial costs made us look for an alternative.

    As I was gifted the two professional grade tool batteries above we decided to buy a powerful electric brush-cutter instead. It has some limitations but should be a good trade-off.

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    • pepijn@mastodon.onlineP pepijn@mastodon.online

      Btw. We decided to not buy a large machine (flail mower or otherwise).

      An "Avatar style mower" would've worked to create lovely paths on our woodland and open up other overgrown areas for biodiversity. But: the machines combination of environmental impact and high initial costs made us look for an alternative.

      As I was gifted the two professional grade tool batteries above we decided to buy a powerful electric brush-cutter instead. It has some limitations but should be a good trade-off.

      1/2

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      #22

      @Pepijn but a mini digger!

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      • pepijn@mastodon.onlineP pepijn@mastodon.online

        Btw. We decided to not buy a large machine (flail mower or otherwise).

        An "Avatar style mower" would've worked to create lovely paths on our woodland and open up other overgrown areas for biodiversity. But: the machines combination of environmental impact and high initial costs made us look for an alternative.

        As I was gifted the two professional grade tool batteries above we decided to buy a powerful electric brush-cutter instead. It has some limitations but should be a good trade-off.

        1/2

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        #23

        We got the "Stihl FSA 135". With our use it is likely to last for the rest of our life.

        While it comes with a strimmer head (using nylon wire*) we'll be using it with a metal cutting disk as not to pollute the woodland with untold bits of #microplastics.

        I'm looking forward to do some testing this weekend 🙂

        *There's no such thing as biodegradable trimmer wire. #podcast tip: the @plastisphere episode about microplastics in soil:
        https://anjakrieger.com/2021/04/27/welcome-to-the-plastisphere/

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        #gardening #woodland

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        • astridpoot@mastodon.socialA astridpoot@mastodon.social

          @Pepijn but a mini digger!

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          #24

          @astridpoot Yeah 😞 It really sucks to have an environmental consciousness and an over-analysing brain.

          I wish I could just be "big machine, makes earth go brrrrrrrrrr, hole!, it's shiny!. We'll buy it now!" But my brain doesn't allow that 😞

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          • pepijn@mastodon.onlineP pepijn@mastodon.online

            We got the "Stihl FSA 135". With our use it is likely to last for the rest of our life.

            While it comes with a strimmer head (using nylon wire*) we'll be using it with a metal cutting disk as not to pollute the woodland with untold bits of #microplastics.

            I'm looking forward to do some testing this weekend 🙂

            *There's no such thing as biodegradable trimmer wire. #podcast tip: the @plastisphere episode about microplastics in soil:
            https://anjakrieger.com/2021/04/27/welcome-to-the-plastisphere/

            2/2

            #gardening #woodland

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            #25

            @Pepijn @plastisphere

            Good to know, that there is an alternative between nylon "wire" and traditional scythe.

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            • pepijn@mastodon.onlineP pepijn@mastodon.online

              We got the "Stihl FSA 135". With our use it is likely to last for the rest of our life.

              While it comes with a strimmer head (using nylon wire*) we'll be using it with a metal cutting disk as not to pollute the woodland with untold bits of #microplastics.

              I'm looking forward to do some testing this weekend 🙂

              *There's no such thing as biodegradable trimmer wire. #podcast tip: the @plastisphere episode about microplastics in soil:
              https://anjakrieger.com/2021/04/27/welcome-to-the-plastisphere/

              2/2

              #gardening #woodland

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              #26

              Hej @anja I just listened to the soil episode as in my memory it discussed the plastic wire (both traditional and so-called biodegradable ones) in garden mowers used in cities, gardens and forest (this issue https://academic.oup.com/forestry/article/98/5/706/8004996?login=false).

              It wasn't in there though. Was this maybe discussed in another episode?

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              • pepijn@mastodon.onlineP pepijn@mastodon.online

                We got the "Stihl FSA 135". With our use it is likely to last for the rest of our life.

                While it comes with a strimmer head (using nylon wire*) we'll be using it with a metal cutting disk as not to pollute the woodland with untold bits of #microplastics.

                I'm looking forward to do some testing this weekend 🙂

                *There's no such thing as biodegradable trimmer wire. #podcast tip: the @plastisphere episode about microplastics in soil:
                https://anjakrieger.com/2021/04/27/welcome-to-the-plastisphere/

                2/2

                #gardening #woodland

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                #27

                Amazing slow motion zoomed in footage of a weed-eater / brush-cutter wire basically exploding into bits of microplastic after hitting another material.

                Even when the wire doesn't break the plastic just flakes off.

                Not something I'd want to use around my, let's say, vegetable garden.

                Footage at 11:39: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1opkMO1w4U&t=699s

                @plastisphere

                #gardening #food

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                • pepijn@mastodon.onlineP pepijn@mastodon.online

                  Amazing slow motion zoomed in footage of a weed-eater / brush-cutter wire basically exploding into bits of microplastic after hitting another material.

                  Even when the wire doesn't break the plastic just flakes off.

                  Not something I'd want to use around my, let's say, vegetable garden.

                  Footage at 11:39: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1opkMO1w4U&t=699s

                  @plastisphere

                  #gardening #food

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                  #28

                  @Pepijn @plastisphere See, what I’m reading here is that I might need to exchange my consumer-grade Stihl weed trimmer (we call it a «whipper-snapper» in our household) with a bigger, more powerful insdustrial grade one so that I can have the possibility of having a non-plastic cutting mechanism…

                  See, I already have the same battery system. 🤔

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                  • fgraver@hcommons.socialF fgraver@hcommons.social

                    @Pepijn @plastisphere See, what I’m reading here is that I might need to exchange my consumer-grade Stihl weed trimmer (we call it a «whipper-snapper» in our household) with a bigger, more powerful insdustrial grade one so that I can have the possibility of having a non-plastic cutting mechanism…

                    See, I already have the same battery system. 🤔

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                    #29

                    @fgraver Honestly, if used enough that might be a good idea.

                    There's a chance your current one takes a metal blade ("brush knife") as well though.

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                    • pepijn@mastodon.onlineP pepijn@mastodon.online

                      @astridpoot Yeah 😞 It really sucks to have an environmental consciousness and an over-analysing brain.

                      I wish I could just be "big machine, makes earth go brrrrrrrrrr, hole!, it's shiny!. We'll buy it now!" But my brain doesn't allow that 😞

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                      #30

                      @Pepijn i feel you, but they come in such great colors 😢

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                      • pepijn@mastodon.onlineP pepijn@mastodon.online

                        @fgraver Honestly, if used enough that might be a good idea.

                        There's a chance your current one takes a metal blade ("brush knife") as well though.

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                        #31

                        @Pepijn Oh, this would definitely be a «want» and not a «need»… But I might look into the brush knife; that seems like a good idea. Not as much fun as a whole new toy, though.

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                        • fgraver@hcommons.socialF fgraver@hcommons.social

                          @Pepijn Oh, this would definitely be a «want» and not a «need»… But I might look into the brush knife; that seems like a good idea. Not as much fun as a whole new toy, though.

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                          #32

                          @Pepijn Given that a blade can be had for under 400 kr. (Norwegian) and the entire whipper-snapper unit is closer to 9 000,- (for the 135) it might be that my bank account will have the final word… 🥺

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                          • fgraver@hcommons.socialF fgraver@hcommons.social

                            @Pepijn Given that a blade can be had for under 400 kr. (Norwegian) and the entire whipper-snapper unit is closer to 9 000,- (for the 135) it might be that my bank account will have the final word… 🥺

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                            #33

                            @Pepijn I do need to take into account that there’s a lot of rock around here, though. Metal might not always be the best choice.

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                            • fgraver@hcommons.socialF fgraver@hcommons.social

                              @Pepijn I do need to take into account that there’s a lot of rock around here, though. Metal might not always be the best choice.

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                              #34

                              Yeah, I left out the price earlier... It's a LOT of money (we paid a bit under 4000DKK). Especially if you already have a another one.

                              From what I hear from professional users the blade is fine if it's mostly loose rocks you'll hit. It's a bit less fun if you're continuously scraping into large boulders.

                              @fgraver

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                              • pepijn@mastodon.onlineP pepijn@mastodon.online

                                Hej @anja I just listened to the soil episode as in my memory it discussed the plastic wire (both traditional and so-called biodegradable ones) in garden mowers used in cities, gardens and forest (this issue https://academic.oup.com/forestry/article/98/5/706/8004996?login=false).

                                It wasn't in there though. Was this maybe discussed in another episode?

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                                #35

                                @Pepijn mmmh, I don’t think I ever covered this in @plastisphere or Life in the Soil with @mrillig. If I haven’t forgotten it. But interesting! Hope you find the source!

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                                • anja@chaos.socialA anja@chaos.social

                                  @Pepijn mmmh, I don’t think I ever covered this in @plastisphere or Life in the Soil with @mrillig. If I haven’t forgotten it. But interesting! Hope you find the source!

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                                  #36

                                  @anja Thanks. I just found some browser bookmarks and now suspect the source was... me doing an internet dive into the topic after listening to the soil episode. (...)

                                  One day it might be an interesting episode topic in itself. The amount of plastic used in these devices is non-trivial, and they're very much used around places with food production.

                                  @plastisphere @mrillig

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                                  • pepijn@mastodon.onlineP pepijn@mastodon.online

                                    Yeah, I left out the price earlier... It's a LOT of money (we paid a bit under 4000DKK). Especially if you already have a another one.

                                    From what I hear from professional users the blade is fine if it's mostly loose rocks you'll hit. It's a bit less fun if you're continuously scraping into large boulders.

                                    @fgraver

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                                    @Pepijn I would be scraping into Norwegian bedrock…

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