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  3. The "AI changes everything" people rhyme remarkably well with the "blockchain changes everything" people.

The "AI changes everything" people rhyme remarkably well with the "blockchain changes everything" people.

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  • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

    It's just like the way the Segway completely changed the way cities work.

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    #8

    @mattblaze

    People don't collect Segways as a commodity.
    #Cryptocurrency has held its value while #AI is crashing.
    Pick one.

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    • me_valentijn@m.ai6yr.orgM me_valentijn@m.ai6yr.org

      @tuban_muzuru @mattblaze
      Not to worry, you can keep talking to your rice maker for as long as you want.

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      #9

      @me_valentijn @mattblaze

      Just as long as these innumerate AI Taliban stay off my porch.

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      • octothorpe@mastodon.onlineO octothorpe@mastodon.online

        @mattblaze weirdly, they’re a lot of the same people…

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        #10

        @octothorpe Funny, that.

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        • jazone@theforkiverse.comJ jazone@theforkiverse.com

          @mattblaze

          People don't collect Segways as a commodity.
          #Cryptocurrency has held its value while #AI is crashing.
          Pick one.

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          #11

          @Jazone @mattblaze But cryptocurrency is just a subcateory. They were trying to put blockchain in everything.

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          • razemix@mamutovo.czR razemix@mamutovo.cz

            @Jazone @mattblaze But cryptocurrency is just a subcateory. They were trying to put blockchain in everything.

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            #12

            @Razemix @mattblaze

            You are talking about the same corporate USA that allows its citizens to die from cigarette lung cancer.
            #Cronycapitalism will kill you if there are not any #laws and #regulation of oathless charlatans.

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            • jazone@theforkiverse.comJ jazone@theforkiverse.com

              @mattblaze

              People don't collect Segways as a commodity.
              #Cryptocurrency has held its value while #AI is crashing.
              Pick one.

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              #13

              @Jazone @mattblaze

              sure, cryptocurrency has been remarkably profitable

              for the whales

              the rest are gullible rubes who are robbed by con men extolling an amazing flimsy tech dream built on hype and FOMO

              just like AI

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              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                @Jazone @mattblaze

                sure, cryptocurrency has been remarkably profitable

                for the whales

                the rest are gullible rubes who are robbed by con men extolling an amazing flimsy tech dream built on hype and FOMO

                just like AI

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                #14

                @benroyce @mattblaze

                Same as the tobacco industry.
                The tactics are the same predatory #cronycapitalism that arise from no #laws or regulation.
                Some #cryptocurrency has legitimate uses. Others do not.
                Buyer beware. Do your research if curious or a collector of limited market quantities.
                Supply and demand etc. etc.
                I can't blame people for collecting stupid junk.

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                • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                  It's just like the way the Segway completely changed the way cities work.

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                  #15

                  @mattblaze funny you should say that, that kinda all went into e-scooters, and rental e-scooters have absolutely had an impact on cities

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                  • irrationalmethod@social.coopI irrationalmethod@social.coop

                    @mattblaze

                    Yes, but unfortunately the "AI changes everything" people seem to be a lot more vocal and getting more attention.

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                    #16

                    @IrrationalMethod @mattblaze

                    i think of it as:

                    in cryptocurrency the con job preys on random airheads by promising them flimsy tech dreams

                    then the whales sell, and "oh well" to the airheads

                    in AI the con job preys upon c-suites by suggesting they are missing out on flimsy tech dreams

                    then the c-suites find themselves in a sea of mediocrity and the hatred of their employees

                    in both cases the inevitable crash completes the confidence game, and the con men walk away with a fat payout

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                    • jazone@theforkiverse.comJ jazone@theforkiverse.com

                      @benroyce @mattblaze

                      Same as the tobacco industry.
                      The tactics are the same predatory #cronycapitalism that arise from no #laws or regulation.
                      Some #cryptocurrency has legitimate uses. Others do not.
                      Buyer beware. Do your research if curious or a collector of limited market quantities.
                      Supply and demand etc. etc.
                      I can't blame people for collecting stupid junk.

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                      #17

                      @Jazone @mattblaze

                      i'll go further:

                      the *idea* of #cryptocurrency was promising. a sort of freedom. but instead the whole space from top to bottom has been coopted by the worst characters. all of cryptocurrency is now nothing but grifters and criminals, and a sea of impressionable degenerates who don't understand how they are being robbed by whales. just waiting on the rug pull with stars in their eyes

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                      • navi@catcatnya.comN navi@catcatnya.com

                        @mattblaze funny you should say that, that kinda all went into e-scooters, and rental e-scooters have absolutely had an impact on cities

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                        #18

                        @navi it seems like scooters had a modest impact, probably mostly offsetting personally owned bicycles. I don’t think they’ve come anywhere close to “changing how cities work” (the supposed promise of the segway). A thing can be successful without being “revolutionary”.

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          @Jazone @mattblaze

                          i'll go further:

                          the *idea* of #cryptocurrency was promising. a sort of freedom. but instead the whole space from top to bottom has been coopted by the worst characters. all of cryptocurrency is now nothing but grifters and criminals, and a sea of impressionable degenerates who don't understand how they are being robbed by whales. just waiting on the rug pull with stars in their eyes

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                          #19

                          @benroyce @mattblaze

                          Guys, the rug would have been "pulled out" before an #IRS tax structure was adopted to mange capital gains on #cryptocurrency sales.

                          Now, I predict that there will be a culling in the crypto markets because there are nearly thousands of worthless grift within the market as you have correctly identified.
                          Time, adaption and adoption should create the culling cycle eventually.
                          Big risk is big reward or cascade failure.

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                          • jazone@theforkiverse.comJ jazone@theforkiverse.com

                            @benroyce @mattblaze

                            Guys, the rug would have been "pulled out" before an #IRS tax structure was adopted to mange capital gains on #cryptocurrency sales.

                            Now, I predict that there will be a culling in the crypto markets because there are nearly thousands of worthless grift within the market as you have correctly identified.
                            Time, adaption and adoption should create the culling cycle eventually.
                            Big risk is big reward or cascade failure.

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                            #20

                            @Jazone @mattblaze

                            right but i'd say the entire sector is a grift

                            it has no applications, besides as a casino whose selling point is tech hype. it's 2026: nothing useful, nothing large scale, has been adopted from #cryptocurrency. people thought it was a new internet

                            it started out full of dreams, which is fine. normal. noble even

                            but there's a lot of that in tech: dead ends

                            and all cryptocurrency offers now is this endless hype and nothing but harvesting money from the impressionable

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              @Jazone @mattblaze

                              right but i'd say the entire sector is a grift

                              it has no applications, besides as a casino whose selling point is tech hype. it's 2026: nothing useful, nothing large scale, has been adopted from #cryptocurrency. people thought it was a new internet

                              it started out full of dreams, which is fine. normal. noble even

                              but there's a lot of that in tech: dead ends

                              and all cryptocurrency offers now is this endless hype and nothing but harvesting money from the impressionable

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                              #21

                              @benroyce @mattblaze

                              I've researched individual digital currency.
                              I'll say this again.
                              Do your research and buyer beware.
                              That's market capitalism.
                              Always has been.

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                              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                @IrrationalMethod @mattblaze

                                i think of it as:

                                in cryptocurrency the con job preys on random airheads by promising them flimsy tech dreams

                                then the whales sell, and "oh well" to the airheads

                                in AI the con job preys upon c-suites by suggesting they are missing out on flimsy tech dreams

                                then the c-suites find themselves in a sea of mediocrity and the hatred of their employees

                                in both cases the inevitable crash completes the confidence game, and the con men walk away with a fat payout

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                                #22

                                @benroyce @IrrationalMethod @mattblaze
                                I'm exhausted waiting for that last part.

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                                • jazone@theforkiverse.comJ jazone@theforkiverse.com

                                  @benroyce @mattblaze

                                  I've researched individual digital currency.
                                  I'll say this again.
                                  Do your research and buyer beware.
                                  That's market capitalism.
                                  Always has been.

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                                  #23

                                  @Jazone @mattblaze

                                  right: do your research. you can profit if you get on the escalator at the right time, and get off at the right time

                                  for the vast majority, they aren't going to get the timing right. and so the whole thing is a machine where the whales pump, then they dump, and most get nothing but a mouth full of ash

                                  but this very topic is the problem

                                  we're doing casino talk

                                  that's it

                                  no applications. no real value

                                  just poker chips

                                  #cryptocurrency is a sad joke of desperation and hype

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                                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                    @Jazone @mattblaze

                                    right: do your research. you can profit if you get on the escalator at the right time, and get off at the right time

                                    for the vast majority, they aren't going to get the timing right. and so the whole thing is a machine where the whales pump, then they dump, and most get nothing but a mouth full of ash

                                    but this very topic is the problem

                                    we're doing casino talk

                                    that's it

                                    no applications. no real value

                                    just poker chips

                                    #cryptocurrency is a sad joke of desperation and hype

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                                    @benroyce @mattblaze

                                    Timing markets is how you use your research and technology. That is why #securitiesfraud is a federal crime.

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                                    • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                                      @navi it seems like scooters had a modest impact, probably mostly offsetting personally owned bicycles. I don’t think they’ve come anywhere close to “changing how cities work” (the supposed promise of the segway). A thing can be successful without being “revolutionary”.

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                                      #25

                                      @mattblaze @navi

                                      I think one can argue rental e-bikes are changing the way London works. A grester impact in two/three years than standard bikes have made in the last 20/30 years.

                                      Especially amongst the young.

                                      #london #cycling

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                                      • ohmu@social.seattle.wa.usO ohmu@social.seattle.wa.us

                                        @benroyce @IrrationalMethod @mattblaze
                                        I'm exhausted waiting for that last part.

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                                        #26

                                        @ohmu @IrrationalMethod @mattblaze

                                        AI like crypto will persist for a long time

                                        it's the dark side of the dreamer:

                                        dreams are great. but a hard rational analysis of the pros and cons is blotted out by the dream, and so this powers the con job by crypto whales and AI ventures

                                        yes, the crash is coming. but it will revive again. and crash again. until a whimper

                                        if crypto and AI have any real future, it's just as a tool no one profits off of. the profit motive is what destroys both dreams

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                                        • jazone@theforkiverse.comJ jazone@theforkiverse.com

                                          @benroyce @mattblaze

                                          Timing markets is how you use your research and technology. That is why #securitiesfraud is a federal crime.

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                                          #27

                                          @Jazone @mattblaze

                                          i have no argument with you

                                          instead i am saying that unlike the stock market, which is about ventures based on real world applications, #cryptocurrency has none. thus, it is only a casino

                                          so you win the argument on the basis of scoping the discussion to the dreamer buying and selling crypto

                                          but outside that argument: the consideration of what crypto actually does

                                          it does nothing

                                          it's just poker chips, with hype signals driving ups and downs that you can analyze

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