✈️Private jet flights are 30 times more polluting than regular flights.
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️Private jet flights are 30 times more polluting than regular flights.After years of campaigning from Scottish Green MSPs, the Scottish Government is set to introduce a private jet tax!
@ScottishGreens This is good
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Commercial flights are reponsible for 50 times the pollution of private planes, as their global share of aviation emissions.
Banning all private planes would cut global emissions by less than 2%.
Ban all flights using fossil fuels.
How does that break down per passenger, excluding crew?
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Good plan.
@kevinrns I once saw an even stronger proposal: require private jets to use only the biomass-based "sustainable" jet fuel. This now costs several times what petro jet fuel costs, but I doubt its any worse than 100ll (low-LEAD) for piston powered planes.
The effect of this would be to require the rich with their mini-airliner size private jets to subsidize a potential airline industry transition off of petroleum. That of course works if and only if the "sustainable" jet fuel scales up big enough to use in airliners. The demand to feed all those thirsty corporate jets would encourage the makers of the "sustainable" fuel to ramp up production, lowering per-gallon costs. Supposedly the feedstocks can include
"food and yard waste portion of municipal solid waste, woody biomass, fats/greases/oils, and other feedstock"
https://afdc.energy.gov/fuels/sustainable-aviation-fuel
If this in fact does not scale (and there is no guarantee it will), airlines will eventually have to transition to much slower solar/prop powered planes that should still be fast enough to outrun cars and certainly most ships. Bullet trains though would outrun them on land. The fastest Asian bullet trains are a match speedwise for early WWII fighter aircraft.
I don't understand why the rich need to fly such huge planes, some models of which BTW are big enough that airlines use them on lower traffic routes.
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@kevinrns I once saw an even stronger proposal: require private jets to use only the biomass-based "sustainable" jet fuel. This now costs several times what petro jet fuel costs, but I doubt its any worse than 100ll (low-LEAD) for piston powered planes.
The effect of this would be to require the rich with their mini-airliner size private jets to subsidize a potential airline industry transition off of petroleum. That of course works if and only if the "sustainable" jet fuel scales up big enough to use in airliners. The demand to feed all those thirsty corporate jets would encourage the makers of the "sustainable" fuel to ramp up production, lowering per-gallon costs. Supposedly the feedstocks can include
"food and yard waste portion of municipal solid waste, woody biomass, fats/greases/oils, and other feedstock"
https://afdc.energy.gov/fuels/sustainable-aviation-fuel
If this in fact does not scale (and there is no guarantee it will), airlines will eventually have to transition to much slower solar/prop powered planes that should still be fast enough to outrun cars and certainly most ships. Bullet trains though would outrun them on land. The fastest Asian bullet trains are a match speedwise for early WWII fighter aircraft.
I don't understand why the rich need to fly such huge planes, some models of which BTW are big enough that airlines use them on lower traffic routes.
@LukefromDC @kevinrns I understand the idea behind making their travel more expensive, but what if we just let much less skilled folx do the maintenance work on their planes as a cost saving measure, and then gutted the training budget for their mechanics, so that they died every time they tried to fly. It would accomplish the goal a lot quicker, and be lauded for saving money!
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@ScottishGreens
Let the private plane fuckers pay for their privilege.
The age of externalized costs needs to be brought to a screeching halt, in my opinion. -
@ScottishGreens
Let the private plane fuckers pay for their privilege.
The age of externalized costs needs to be brought to a screeching halt, in my opinion.@Guillotine_Jones @ScottishGreens @FeloniousPunk This is a good opinion.
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@LukefromDC @kevinrns I understand the idea behind making their travel more expensive, but what if we just let much less skilled folx do the maintenance work on their planes as a cost saving measure, and then gutted the training budget for their mechanics, so that they died every time they tried to fly. It would accomplish the goal a lot quicker, and be lauded for saving money!
@chrisnelsonsdog @kevinrns Problem with that would be that a Learjet or a Gulfstream crashing into someone's house on the ground would likely burn it to the ground and kill everyone inside.
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@LukefromDC @kevinrns I understand the idea behind making their travel more expensive, but what if we just let much less skilled folx do the maintenance work on their planes as a cost saving measure, and then gutted the training budget for their mechanics, so that they died every time they tried to fly. It would accomplish the goal a lot quicker, and be lauded for saving money!
@chrisnelsonsdog @LukefromDC@kolektiva.social
Paying for something you do is normal.
Consequences aren't punishments.
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️Private jet flights are 30 times more polluting than regular flights.
After years of campaigning from Scottish Green MSPs, the Scottish Government is set to introduce a private jet tax!
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@ScottishGreens sorry, I can't. I live in the wrong country.
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@Guillotine_Jones @ScottishGreens @FeloniousPunk This is a good opinion.
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@LieschenrelleuM @ScottishGreens
50 times more emissions for holidays and business jollies is 50 times worse.
Taxing private flights won't stop those flights or save the planet. The true green way is to campaign against all the most wasteful forms of travel and for electric trains and busses run off renewables.
Fake greens only interested in class war will stand by while the world dies.
Taxing 2% of the emissions? Whoop-de-fucking-do. 🤮
@geoffl @LieschenrelleuM @ScottishGreens I've found that the "only and true" ways tend to achieve bugger all. Apart from creating hypothetical solutions. On the other hand, I don't see how this tax would work. Rich people can register their planes in whatever country they like via whatever made up company. What is maybe doable is state regulated ATC and airport fees. But that's not a tax and the money would go to respective companies and it creates a bunch of other problems. Or just ban the use.
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@chrisnelsonsdog @kevinrns Problem with that would be that a Learjet or a Gulfstream crashing into someone's house on the ground would likely burn it to the ground and kill everyone inside.
@LukefromDC @kevinrns we have the tech to make sure they all fall in the sea. I feel for the coral, but it's for the good of the planet.
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