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  • mabande@mastodon.socialM mabande@mastodon.social

    Only the best and brightest are working for Anthropic.

    #Claude #AI

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    librarysquirrel@sunny.garden
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    #6

    @Mabande Someone tell Amanda what PR actually is short for...

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    • mabande@mastodon.socialM mabande@mastodon.social

      Only the best and brightest are working for Anthropic.

      #Claude #AI

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      #7

      @Mabande It’s a logical reasoning model with polite UI. That’s neither a human or a machine. It’s a software solution

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      • mabande@mastodon.socialM mabande@mastodon.social

        Only the best and brightest are working for Anthropic.

        #Claude #AI

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        #8

        @Mabande This made me laugh too hard

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        • adardis@mstdn.socialA adardis@mstdn.social

          @Mabande Have a look at her Wikipedia page. If it's accurate, she's a very rigorous philosopher.

          I'm tempted to say "no bullshit there" but it's possible to be rigorous and to spout bullshit.

          My instinct says she has/they have other reasons for saying the things they do.

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          #9

          @Mabande To be a bit more direct and blunt about it. I am confident that Amanda Askell *is* among the best and brightest. She's motivated to say things about AI you (and I) disagree with. Part of the explanation for that is her position in the public eye (let me assure you, the New Yorker is never going to quote my thoughts about AI). Working for Anthropic is another motivation: lots of money, cultural capital, access to power, etc. But: not a dummy.

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          • adardis@mstdn.socialA adardis@mstdn.social

            @Mabande To be a bit more direct and blunt about it. I am confident that Amanda Askell *is* among the best and brightest. She's motivated to say things about AI you (and I) disagree with. Part of the explanation for that is her position in the public eye (let me assure you, the New Yorker is never going to quote my thoughts about AI). Working for Anthropic is another motivation: lots of money, cultural capital, access to power, etc. But: not a dummy.

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            #10

            @adardis Checking her Wiki page I can't confirm her rigour, only that her academic career led to a PhD (which is cool and impressive, I wish I had the chops) and that she's involved in "over 60 papers and has received over 170,000 citations."
            Checking the source for that claim I see that she's not the head author in any of the ones with more than 500 citations.
            Her PhD thesis has been cited 47 times.

            The New Yorker will probably not quote either of us re. Theranos style blood testing either 🤷

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            • adardis@mstdn.socialA adardis@mstdn.social

              @Mabande Have a look at her Wikipedia page. If it's accurate, she's a very rigorous philosopher.

              I'm tempted to say "no bullshit there" but it's possible to be rigorous and to spout bullshit.

              My instinct says she has/they have other reasons for saying the things they do.

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              petealexharris@mastodon.scot
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              #11

              @adardis @Mabande

              My instinct says it's very hard to get paid from a philosophy degree.

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              • mabande@mastodon.socialM mabande@mastodon.social

                Only the best and brightest are working for Anthropic.

                #Claude #AI

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                #12

                @Mabande

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                • magitweeter@mastodon.socialM magitweeter@mastodon.social

                  @Mabande This made me laugh too hard

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                  #13

                  @magitweeter All credit goes to the very prescient Avery Edison!

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                  • adardis@mstdn.socialA adardis@mstdn.social

                    @Mabande To be a bit more direct and blunt about it. I am confident that Amanda Askell *is* among the best and brightest. She's motivated to say things about AI you (and I) disagree with. Part of the explanation for that is her position in the public eye (let me assure you, the New Yorker is never going to quote my thoughts about AI). Working for Anthropic is another motivation: lots of money, cultural capital, access to power, etc. But: not a dummy.

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                    ratsnakegames@mastodon.social
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                    #14

                    @Mabande @adardis if you are willing to say profoundly stupid things, people are gonna call you a dummy, even if you are just doing it for a cash injection.

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                    • mabande@mastodon.socialM mabande@mastodon.social

                      Only the best and brightest are working for Anthropic.

                      #Claude #AI

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                      #15

                      @Mabande

                      She's in the effective altruism cult

                      She's been paid off and is now delusional

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                      • mabande@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #16

                        @Kierkegaanks At least about other people's statements, not her own (nor her creation)!

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                        • mabande@mastodon.socialM mabande@mastodon.social

                          Only the best and brightest are working for Anthropic.

                          #Claude #AI

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                          #17

                          @Mabande The "entirely new entity"...

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                          • mabande@mastodon.socialM mabande@mastodon.social

                            Only the best and brightest are working for Anthropic.

                            #Claude #AI

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                            #18

                            @Mabande
                            "There is nothing so absurd that it has not been said by some philosopher."
                            -- Cicero

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                            • mabande@mastodon.socialM mabande@mastodon.social

                              @adardis Checking her Wiki page I can't confirm her rigour, only that her academic career led to a PhD (which is cool and impressive, I wish I had the chops) and that she's involved in "over 60 papers and has received over 170,000 citations."
                              Checking the source for that claim I see that she's not the head author in any of the ones with more than 500 citations.
                              Her PhD thesis has been cited 47 times.

                              The New Yorker will probably not quote either of us re. Theranos style blood testing either 🤷

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                              #19

                              @Mabande
                              You don't get a PhD without rigor.

                              We don't need to attack a philosopher's credentials or skill here. The problem isn't the philosophy, it's the engineers who are providing inaccurate technical explanations to the philosopher. This is why we need to infuse the humanities into our engineering programs - we need technical philosophers to call this bullshit out.

                              (And we have them - see the DAIR group, for example.)
                              @adardis

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                              • joshg@mathstodon.xyzJ joshg@mathstodon.xyz

                                @Mabande
                                You don't get a PhD without rigor.

                                We don't need to attack a philosopher's credentials or skill here. The problem isn't the philosophy, it's the engineers who are providing inaccurate technical explanations to the philosopher. This is why we need to infuse the humanities into our engineering programs - we need technical philosophers to call this bullshit out.

                                (And we have them - see the DAIR group, for example.)
                                @adardis

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                                #20

                                @joshg I opposed @adardis's use of "_very_ rigorous" as some kind of credential for Askell's skills as a philosopher.
                                Yes, rigor is needed for getting a PhD. But. It does not guarantee that someone has understood their field: one seldom cited thesis re. ethics doesn't necessarily mean she is qualified to define life/consciousness.
                                (as paralleled by the unfortunate number of PhD's who are proponents of eugenics)

                                Especially as she's a follower of "effective altruism".

                                And yes, DAIR are _on_ it.

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                                  #21

                                  @Bender @adardis @Mabande And a few others too

                                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_disease

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                                  • mabande@mastodon.socialM mabande@mastodon.social

                                    @joshg I opposed @adardis's use of "_very_ rigorous" as some kind of credential for Askell's skills as a philosopher.
                                    Yes, rigor is needed for getting a PhD. But. It does not guarantee that someone has understood their field: one seldom cited thesis re. ethics doesn't necessarily mean she is qualified to define life/consciousness.
                                    (as paralleled by the unfortunate number of PhD's who are proponents of eugenics)

                                    Especially as she's a follower of "effective altruism".

                                    And yes, DAIR are _on_ it.

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                                    #22

                                    @Mabande
                                    oof. yeah if she's an "effective altruism" follower, that's a lack of something all right.

                                    amazing how someone can be incredibly thorough in justifying something so obviously horrible.
                                    @adardis

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                                    • mabande@mastodon.socialM mabande@mastodon.social

                                      Only the best and brightest are working for Anthropic.

                                      #Claude #AI

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                                      #23

                                      @Mabande

                                      Faeces were cleaned off a light switch this morning.

                                      The combination of a unique microbiome, the still live binary switch and the macro "Schrodinger's Cat"-like possibility of a quantum event deciding whether the cleaning liquid provided a pathway to earth through the cleaner does, I feel, amount to an entirely new entity having been formed.

                                      How are we to understand how that entity felt about being destroyed?

                                      Pro tip: Better genAI prompts if you don't wash after wiping.

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                                      • rubinjoni@mastodon.socialR rubinjoni@mastodon.social

                                        @CAWguy @Mabande @Kierkegaanks Shitposters, but not very good ones.

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                                        #24

                                        @rubinjoni @CAWguy @Mabande @Kierkegaanks@beige.party shit posters

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                                        • joshg@mathstodon.xyzJ joshg@mathstodon.xyz

                                          @Mabande
                                          oof. yeah if she's an "effective altruism" follower, that's a lack of something all right.

                                          amazing how someone can be incredibly thorough in justifying something so obviously horrible.
                                          @adardis

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                                          #25

                                          @joshg @Mabande @adardis Philosophers can be wrong about things and still be philosophers.

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