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  3. Y’all, we need to talk about upcoming #IPOs, and the insane rule changes that #nasdaq has just announced.

Y’all, we need to talk about upcoming #IPOs, and the insane rule changes that #nasdaq has just announced.

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  • iamnotu@mastodon.socialI iamnotu@mastodon.social

    @MissConstrue looking forward to the 'pump and dump'

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    #51

    @iamnotU The churn is gonna look like feeding time at the gator tank.

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    • missconstrue@mefi.socialM missconstrue@mefi.social

      Y’all, we need to talk about upcoming #IPOs, and the insane rule changes that #nasdaq has just announced.

      Nasdaq rewrote its #index inclusion rules to accommodate #SpaceX’s mega-IPO, implementing a "Fast Entry" provision that allows the company to join the Nasdaq-100 index just 15 trading days after its initial public offering, down from the standard three-month seasoning period.

      They also eliminated the minimum float requirement of 20% available public shares and instead stocks with less than 20% of shares publicly traded, Nasdaq applies a 3x multiplier to the free-float for index weighting purposes, artificially inflating low-float giants like SpaceX in passive funds.

      Ok, but in English? #SpaceX, #OpenAI and #Anthropic have just figured out a scam to force every passive #IRA, #401k, and index fund to buy their stock before pricing evaluation.

      They’ve figured out how to steal your #retirement.

      #AI #LLM #Scam #guillotines #YouWillOwnNothing

      https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-ipo-s1-spcx-stock-nasdaq-qqq-elon-musk-2026-5

      sibshops@mastodon.onlineS This user is from outside of this forum
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      #52

      @MissConstrue Time to dump nasdaq index funds, then.

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      • kevinashworth@mastodon.socialK kevinashworth@mastodon.social

        @MissConstrue @shredder7579
        Ah, I remember back before, to a simpler time when I never understood why the French used those guillotines.

        saanichguy@mstdn.caS This user is from outside of this forum
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        saanichguy@mstdn.ca
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        #53

        @MissConstrue @shredder7579 @kevinashworth #frenchrevolution

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        • missconstrue@mefi.socialM missconstrue@mefi.social

          @troy_frizzell Unfortunately, thanks to the Reaganites and Republicans, EVERYBODY who has a retirement plan in the United States is funding this private equity grab.

          The GOP and the neoliberals masquerading as the Left gave us 401ks and IRAs. Both of which are deeply, irretrievably, connected to the the financial markets.

          Every teacher, firefighter, union worker...they've all paid into this slush fund the billionaires are about to raid. The "market" isn't just rich people. They're the ones who make the most money because they have the most resources and inside information, but so many Americans, so many have their future hopes of survival riding on this bubbling, insane, tulip-crazed, stock market.

          troy_frizzell@mstdn.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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          #54

          @MissConstrue

          I’m 64, just about to retire and absolutely tied to these creepy weirdos.

          I don’t care.

          Burn it down.

          I’ll take the hit. We have to end these leeches that are wrecking our culture.

          I would happily give up my comfort to end that plague.

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          • missconstrue@mefi.socialM missconstrue@mefi.social

            @Beggarmidas

            Yes...and no. employees rarely have that kind of autonomy about their 401ks. Also, the laws around index funds are tricky, and excluding a single stock might run into regulatory issues.

            It's all prospectus. If the fund "tracks an index", then it has to buy in proportional percentages everything in that index. And with companies like amazon and alphabet overweight, it means indexes hold more.

            These IPOS are coming in bigger than anything has ever come in before, including the Saudi Aramco IPO...and Aramco actually produces profit.

            So, short answer; any prospectus which covers broad index cannot avoid a singular stock, as I understand it.

            I am not an expert.

            https://uslawexplained.com/index_fund

            beggarmidas@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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            #55

            @MissConstrue Eliminate all investment? Perhaps not. But we CAN firewall a majority of it. It would require employees broadly discussing concerns with employers in small & medium enterprise about risky investments that broadly impact ALL of them, prompting moves to ESGs. For bigger setups weaponization of The Intransigent Minority Rule by having enough core employees & management sticking to their guns & up HR's ass with irritating frequency.

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            • missconstrue@mefi.socialM missconstrue@mefi.social

              Y’all, we need to talk about upcoming #IPOs, and the insane rule changes that #nasdaq has just announced.

              Nasdaq rewrote its #index inclusion rules to accommodate #SpaceX’s mega-IPO, implementing a "Fast Entry" provision that allows the company to join the Nasdaq-100 index just 15 trading days after its initial public offering, down from the standard three-month seasoning period.

              They also eliminated the minimum float requirement of 20% available public shares and instead stocks with less than 20% of shares publicly traded, Nasdaq applies a 3x multiplier to the free-float for index weighting purposes, artificially inflating low-float giants like SpaceX in passive funds.

              Ok, but in English? #SpaceX, #OpenAI and #Anthropic have just figured out a scam to force every passive #IRA, #401k, and index fund to buy their stock before pricing evaluation.

              They’ve figured out how to steal your #retirement.

              #AI #LLM #Scam #guillotines #YouWillOwnNothing

              https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-ipo-s1-spcx-stock-nasdaq-qqq-elon-musk-2026-5

              decapitae@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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              decapitae@mastodon.social
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              #56

              @MissConstrue Dump

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              • missconstrue@mefi.socialM missconstrue@mefi.social

                @Beggarmidas

                Yes...and no. employees rarely have that kind of autonomy about their 401ks. Also, the laws around index funds are tricky, and excluding a single stock might run into regulatory issues.

                It's all prospectus. If the fund "tracks an index", then it has to buy in proportional percentages everything in that index. And with companies like amazon and alphabet overweight, it means indexes hold more.

                These IPOS are coming in bigger than anything has ever come in before, including the Saudi Aramco IPO...and Aramco actually produces profit.

                So, short answer; any prospectus which covers broad index cannot avoid a singular stock, as I understand it.

                I am not an expert.

                https://uslawexplained.com/index_fund

                beggarmidas@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                #57

                @MissConstrue You could also start a petition drive asking the hedge funds to include an investment spread that avoids or only lightly invests in 'high risk' companies forcing premature/irrational market IPOs inclusion. Or hell, just call a spade a spade. Say "X Y Z are forcing high risk investment into medium & lower risk portfolio. We want an index option that specifically discludes companies X Y Z from the index. Get enough signatures on that, hedge fund managers will sit up & take notice

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                • missconstrue@mefi.socialM missconstrue@mefi.social

                  @Beggarmidas

                  Yes...and no. employees rarely have that kind of autonomy about their 401ks. Also, the laws around index funds are tricky, and excluding a single stock might run into regulatory issues.

                  It's all prospectus. If the fund "tracks an index", then it has to buy in proportional percentages everything in that index. And with companies like amazon and alphabet overweight, it means indexes hold more.

                  These IPOS are coming in bigger than anything has ever come in before, including the Saudi Aramco IPO...and Aramco actually produces profit.

                  So, short answer; any prospectus which covers broad index cannot avoid a singular stock, as I understand it.

                  I am not an expert.

                  https://uslawexplained.com/index_fund

                  beggarmidas@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                  beggarmidas@mastodon.social
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                  #58

                  @MissConstrue One final thought on possible tactical approaches. For hundreds if not thousands of years smaller players could sometimes leverage the unlimited ego and ambition of larger players against each other. The techbros believe they are the gods of the market right now. That however, to Hedge Fund managers could be seen as encroachment on their union turf. Bringing big egos into conflict can create a lot of wiggle room for the rest of us.
                  ...Just some thoughts. Better than doing NOTHING.

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                  • missconstrue@mefi.socialM missconstrue@mefi.social

                    @iamnotU The churn is gonna look like feeding time at the gator tank.

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                    tribactam@social.vivaldi.net
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                    #59

                    @MissConstrue @iamnotU

                    when the guy doing the feeding falls in...

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                    • missconstrue@mefi.socialM missconstrue@mefi.social

                      Y’all, we need to talk about upcoming #IPOs, and the insane rule changes that #nasdaq has just announced.

                      Nasdaq rewrote its #index inclusion rules to accommodate #SpaceX’s mega-IPO, implementing a "Fast Entry" provision that allows the company to join the Nasdaq-100 index just 15 trading days after its initial public offering, down from the standard three-month seasoning period.

                      They also eliminated the minimum float requirement of 20% available public shares and instead stocks with less than 20% of shares publicly traded, Nasdaq applies a 3x multiplier to the free-float for index weighting purposes, artificially inflating low-float giants like SpaceX in passive funds.

                      Ok, but in English? #SpaceX, #OpenAI and #Anthropic have just figured out a scam to force every passive #IRA, #401k, and index fund to buy their stock before pricing evaluation.

                      They’ve figured out how to steal your #retirement.

                      #AI #LLM #Scam #guillotines #YouWillOwnNothing

                      https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-ipo-s1-spcx-stock-nasdaq-qqq-elon-musk-2026-5

                      artharg@mastodon.nlA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #60

                      @MissConstrue Hmmm … so passive index funds will be forced to include the bloatstocks into their portfolios, right? But to make room for that, they will have to sell off much of their current portfolio. Which means downward pressure on all other stocks. Maybe time to buy some put options?

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                      • artharg@mastodon.nlA artharg@mastodon.nl

                        @MissConstrue Hmmm … so passive index funds will be forced to include the bloatstocks into their portfolios, right? But to make room for that, they will have to sell off much of their current portfolio. Which means downward pressure on all other stocks. Maybe time to buy some put options?

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                        #61

                        @ArtHarg I've heard a few analysts say something similar, but I don't have the courage to play the puts and shorts game. I'm more on the dividend aristocrat reinvesting for twenty years side of the board. 😉

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                        • beggarmidas@mastodon.socialB beggarmidas@mastodon.social

                          @MissConstrue You could also start a petition drive asking the hedge funds to include an investment spread that avoids or only lightly invests in 'high risk' companies forcing premature/irrational market IPOs inclusion. Or hell, just call a spade a spade. Say "X Y Z are forcing high risk investment into medium & lower risk portfolio. We want an index option that specifically discludes companies X Y Z from the index. Get enough signatures on that, hedge fund managers will sit up & take notice

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                          #62

                          @Beggarmidas There are index and etfs that are not broad spectrum. They're vertical markets that focus on a specific industry or niche.

                          indices can get really confusing really fast, which is why most people's funds are in broad market, it spreads out the risk...theoretically. I think these rules make that less true than it was.

                          https://www.investopedia.com/terms/v/verticalmarket.asp

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