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There's a temptation to be "nuanced" or to hold "complex" views about AI.

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  • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

    That is not a simple position to hold, but precisely none of those complexities point to embracing the relatively extreme position of AI adoption, let alone AI boosterism.

    Nuanced and complex positions are not necessarily those that coincide with popular discourse. You are not necessarily a more careful thinker for hedging your own internal cognition towards media narratives.

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    #21

    That's a really good point.

    I'd like to add that you are not self-disciplined for suppressing your conscience.

    @xgranade

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    • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

      There's a temptation to be "nuanced" or to hold "complex" views about AI.

      I ask that you please reject that temptation and recognize that full and complete abstinence from AI is a complex view that considers the tradeoffs, compromises with the relative extremes of direct action, and that comes from a comprehensive understanding of what AI is.

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      #22

      @xgranade So very true. See also: https://svpow.com/2014/03/20/a-nuanced-position-isnt-always-correct/

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      • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

        There's a temptation to be "nuanced" or to hold "complex" views about AI.

        I ask that you please reject that temptation and recognize that full and complete abstinence from AI is a complex view that considers the tradeoffs, compromises with the relative extremes of direct action, and that comes from a comprehensive understanding of what AI is.

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        #23

        @xgranade

        I'd rather no AI, but that horse has left the barn - AI is not going away; so not wise IMO to not make use of its positive aspects. There are many aspects to AI - not just slop.

        H (Human) I is failing miserably (disinformation, fascism, climate change, etc.). AI carries with it existential risks, but also enormous potential for good: evidence-based information at everyone's fingertips, medicine, personalized education.

        Regulating AI is essential.

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        • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

          (Similarly, I might well be criticized for discussing things in relatively idealistic terms, and ignoring how one might be *coerced* into using or promoting AI. I will defend my discussion on idealistic terms, as "AI is bad, don't use it because of this list of reasons" is already a nuanced and complex statement about what one should ideally do. Adding the other layer of constrained choices under capitalistic coercion is another necessary complexity, but a separate and complementary discussion.)

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          #24

          @xgranade Honestly, it just sounds like the way vegans talk about veganism. "As far as is possible and practicable." is a phrase that is often used.

          (Am vegan, this is not criticism, the opposite actually)

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          • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

            (Similarly, I might well be criticized for discussing things in relatively idealistic terms, and ignoring how one might be *coerced* into using or promoting AI. I will defend my discussion on idealistic terms, as "AI is bad, don't use it because of this list of reasons" is already a nuanced and complex statement about what one should ideally do. Adding the other layer of constrained choices under capitalistic coercion is another necessary complexity, but a separate and complementary discussion.)

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            @xgranade IMO the only " Nuance" I personally would suggest in this is that AI /= GenAI. Like GPS is not NEARLY as bad as ChatGPT and all that with LLMs. AI can have it's uses, but LLMs are practically being sold as snake oil if that makes sense.

            Edit: I should add this goes for Pro-AI people saying stuff like "AI is here to stay", "Everyone uses AI" and stuff like that.

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            • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

              There's a temptation to be "nuanced" or to hold "complex" views about AI.

              I ask that you please reject that temptation and recognize that full and complete abstinence from AI is a complex view that considers the tradeoffs, compromises with the relative extremes of direct action, and that comes from a comprehensive understanding of what AI is.

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              @xgranade

              Not only "not use" but actively resist AI, actively poison scraping theft, actively disable on websites, actively hide with uBlock.

              _______

              AI is soldiers. Soldiers of an occupying army taking our jobs, our energy, and our water.

              ______

              AI is shyte.

              CLOSE DATA CENTRES.
              Oppose data centers like ICE concentration camps.

              #ai

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              • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

                There's a temptation to be "nuanced" or to hold "complex" views about AI.

                I ask that you please reject that temptation and recognize that full and complete abstinence from AI is a complex view that considers the tradeoffs, compromises with the relative extremes of direct action, and that comes from a comprehensive understanding of what AI is.

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                #27

                @xgranade similar to “No is a complete sentence”

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                • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

                  There's a temptation to be "nuanced" or to hold "complex" views about AI.

                  I ask that you please reject that temptation and recognize that full and complete abstinence from AI is a complex view that considers the tradeoffs, compromises with the relative extremes of direct action, and that comes from a comprehensive understanding of what AI is.

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                  #28

                  I fully understand what AI is and this is why in my mind there are only two tasks where it's a genuine improvement over anything that came before: natural language processing (the kind voice assistants do) and text summarization. But, anything that relies on its internal "knowledge", which is most things that AI is being pushed for right now, is laughably crap and will always be.

                  Another useful trait is when you see an article with a generated illustration, you instantly know that it's not worth your time.

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                  • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

                    There's a temptation to be "nuanced" or to hold "complex" views about AI.

                    I ask that you please reject that temptation and recognize that full and complete abstinence from AI is a complex view that considers the tradeoffs, compromises with the relative extremes of direct action, and that comes from a comprehensive understanding of what AI is.

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                    #29

                    @xgranade I wish though that Sighted People tm provided a tad more accessibility to ordinary stuff so that I wouldn' t have to use an AI based visual tool to decipher the touch screens you put on everything. #blind

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                    • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

                      There's a temptation to be "nuanced" or to hold "complex" views about AI.

                      I ask that you please reject that temptation and recognize that full and complete abstinence from AI is a complex view that considers the tradeoffs, compromises with the relative extremes of direct action, and that comes from a comprehensive understanding of what AI is.

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                      @xgranade there is very little nuance about LLMs other than the nuances of how bad they are

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