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  • quarknova@wikis.worldQ quarknova@wikis.world

    My #Wikipedia request for comment just closed, finally banning #AI content in articles! "The use of LLMs to generate or rewrite article content is prohibited"

    Kudos to all who participated in writing the guideline (especially Kowal2701) and the whole WikiProject AI Cleanup team, this was very much a group effort!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Writing_articles_with_large_language_models/RfC

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    #7

    @quarknova Wow! Thank you!

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    • quarknova@wikis.worldQ quarknova@wikis.world

      My #Wikipedia request for comment just closed, finally banning #AI content in articles! "The use of LLMs to generate or rewrite article content is prohibited"

      Kudos to all who participated in writing the guideline (especially Kowal2701) and the whole WikiProject AI Cleanup team, this was very much a group effort!

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Writing_articles_with_large_language_models/RfC

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      #8

      @quarknova Nice! Thank you!

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      • quarknova@wikis.worldQ quarknova@wikis.world

        My #Wikipedia request for comment just closed, finally banning #AI content in articles! "The use of LLMs to generate or rewrite article content is prohibited"

        Kudos to all who participated in writing the guideline (especially Kowal2701) and the whole WikiProject AI Cleanup team, this was very much a group effort!

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Writing_articles_with_large_language_models/RfC

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        #9

        @quarknova 🔥🔥 kudos to y'all, this is SO huge.

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        • quarknova@wikis.worldQ quarknova@wikis.world

          My #Wikipedia request for comment just closed, finally banning #AI content in articles! "The use of LLMs to generate or rewrite article content is prohibited"

          Kudos to all who participated in writing the guideline (especially Kowal2701) and the whole WikiProject AI Cleanup team, this was very much a group effort!

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Writing_articles_with_large_language_models/RfC

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          #10

          @quarknova fucking yes, well done

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          • quarknova@wikis.worldQ This user is from outside of this forum
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            #11

            @indutny Please keep us posted! I would love for this to become a greater movement, and I'm here if you need any support!

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            • quarknova@wikis.worldQ quarknova@wikis.world

              My #Wikipedia request for comment just closed, finally banning #AI content in articles! "The use of LLMs to generate or rewrite article content is prohibited"

              Kudos to all who participated in writing the guideline (especially Kowal2701) and the whole WikiProject AI Cleanup team, this was very much a group effort!

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Writing_articles_with_large_language_models/RfC

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              #12

              @quarknova THANK YOU ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

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                #13

                @k @quarknova there are article changelogs.

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                • quarknova@wikis.worldQ quarknova@wikis.world

                  My #Wikipedia request for comment just closed, finally banning #AI content in articles! "The use of LLMs to generate or rewrite article content is prohibited"

                  Kudos to all who participated in writing the guideline (especially Kowal2701) and the whole WikiProject AI Cleanup team, this was very much a group effort!

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Writing_articles_with_large_language_models/RfC

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                  #14

                  @quarknova Congrats, that is a lot of hard work getting those through.

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                  • quarknova@wikis.worldQ quarknova@wikis.world

                    My #Wikipedia request for comment just closed, finally banning #AI content in articles! "The use of LLMs to generate or rewrite article content is prohibited"

                    Kudos to all who participated in writing the guideline (especially Kowal2701) and the whole WikiProject AI Cleanup team, this was very much a group effort!

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Writing_articles_with_large_language_models/RfC

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                    #15

                    @quarknova Oh thank gods I was terrified about this.

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                    • morningsong@weirder.earthM morningsong@weirder.earth

                      @quarknova Oh thank gods I was terrified about this.

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                      #16

                      @quarknova thank you and everyone else who helped for getting this passed.

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                      • quarknova@wikis.worldQ quarknova@wikis.world

                        My #Wikipedia request for comment just closed, finally banning #AI content in articles! "The use of LLMs to generate or rewrite article content is prohibited"

                        Kudos to all who participated in writing the guideline (especially Kowal2701) and the whole WikiProject AI Cleanup team, this was very much a group effort!

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Writing_articles_with_large_language_models/RfC

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                        #17

                        @quarknova Wikipedia continues to demonstrate that humanity can just decide to create something wonderful, but it takes real dedication to protect that beauty from those who would take advantage. Thank you for your hard work safeguarding this bastion of collaboration.

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                        • quarknova@wikis.worldQ quarknova@wikis.world

                          My #Wikipedia request for comment just closed, finally banning #AI content in articles! "The use of LLMs to generate or rewrite article content is prohibited"

                          Kudos to all who participated in writing the guideline (especially Kowal2701) and the whole WikiProject AI Cleanup team, this was very much a group effort!

                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Writing_articles_with_large_language_models/RfC

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                          https://tenor.com/eKFWyDetRCB.gif

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                          • quarknova@wikis.worldQ quarknova@wikis.world

                            My #Wikipedia request for comment just closed, finally banning #AI content in articles! "The use of LLMs to generate or rewrite article content is prohibited"

                            Kudos to all who participated in writing the guideline (especially Kowal2701) and the whole WikiProject AI Cleanup team, this was very much a group effort!

                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Writing_articles_with_large_language_models/RfC

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                            #19

                            @quarknova

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                            • quarknova@wikis.worldQ quarknova@wikis.world

                              My #Wikipedia request for comment just closed, finally banning #AI content in articles! "The use of LLMs to generate or rewrite article content is prohibited"

                              Kudos to all who participated in writing the guideline (especially Kowal2701) and the whole WikiProject AI Cleanup team, this was very much a group effort!

                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Writing_articles_with_large_language_models/RfC

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                              #20

                              @quarknova I think that unfortunately, this policy is exactly what big tech wants - fresh training knowledge and training data from humans, which the tech companies are free to remix into new public domain works that are not protected by share-alike.

                              With this policy, Wikipedia demands that humans work for the bots for free, and the humans can't even take advantage of the bots to work against the theft of the commons.

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                              • quarknova@wikis.worldQ quarknova@wikis.world

                                My #Wikipedia request for comment just closed, finally banning #AI content in articles! "The use of LLMs to generate or rewrite article content is prohibited"

                                Kudos to all who participated in writing the guideline (especially Kowal2701) and the whole WikiProject AI Cleanup team, this was very much a group effort!

                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Writing_articles_with_large_language_models/RfC

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                                #21

                                @quarknova oh well done, and thank you.!

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                                • quarknova@wikis.worldQ quarknova@wikis.world

                                  My #Wikipedia request for comment just closed, finally banning #AI content in articles! "The use of LLMs to generate or rewrite article content is prohibited"

                                  Kudos to all who participated in writing the guideline (especially Kowal2701) and the whole WikiProject AI Cleanup team, this was very much a group effort!

                                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Writing_articles_with_large_language_models/RfC

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                                  #22

                                  @quarknova @robpike I am not sure that this will work out.

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                                  • yoasif@mastodon.socialY yoasif@mastodon.social

                                    @quarknova I think that unfortunately, this policy is exactly what big tech wants - fresh training knowledge and training data from humans, which the tech companies are free to remix into new public domain works that are not protected by share-alike.

                                    With this policy, Wikipedia demands that humans work for the bots for free, and the humans can't even take advantage of the bots to work against the theft of the commons.

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                                    #23

                                    @yoasif @quarknova You have no idea what you're talking about. There is no way for humans to "take advantage of the bots to work against the theft of the commons". Slop-spewing bots cannot magically create new knowledge of the real world. All they can do is remix things that were already written and scooped up into their training set to make something that sounds plausible but that has no provenance.

                                    Yes, malevolent capitalists will continue to scrape and attempt to enclose the commons. We fight them and continue to maintain the things we need and that nourish us. We don't destroy our own treasures to keep them from copying.

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                                    • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                                      @yoasif @quarknova You have no idea what you're talking about. There is no way for humans to "take advantage of the bots to work against the theft of the commons". Slop-spewing bots cannot magically create new knowledge of the real world. All they can do is remix things that were already written and scooped up into their training set to make something that sounds plausible but that has no provenance.

                                      Yes, malevolent capitalists will continue to scrape and attempt to enclose the commons. We fight them and continue to maintain the things we need and that nourish us. We don't destroy our own treasures to keep them from copying.

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                                      #24

                                      @dalias @quarknova I don't actually believe that the bots can generate knowledge, but that is what we are told.

                                      The lie is revealed with the demand for real human knowledge.

                                      It isn't "malevolent capitalists" -- it is Wikipedia that has sold out its community: https://www.avclub.com/wikipedia-ai-partnerships-meta-amazon-microsoft

                                      If it is good for the goose, why isn't good enough for the gander?

                                      More precisely, why continue to contribute to Wikipedia when they have preemptively sold out the commons?

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                                        #25

                                        @quarknova I would say that the battle was lost when Wikipedia allowed big tech to buy access to copyleft content without needing to share alike.

                                        Your new policy simply enforces "fresh meat" for the models, without any requirement for reciprocity back to the commons.

                                        Wikipedians then, are signing up to work for free to feed the models, while people downstream from the models can use their labor entirely for free without giving back.

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                                        • quarknova@wikis.worldQ quarknova@wikis.world

                                          My #Wikipedia request for comment just closed, finally banning #AI content in articles! "The use of LLMs to generate or rewrite article content is prohibited"

                                          Kudos to all who participated in writing the guideline (especially Kowal2701) and the whole WikiProject AI Cleanup team, this was very much a group effort!

                                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Writing_articles_with_large_language_models/RfC

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                                          #26

                                          @quarknova yes!! 👏👏👏

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