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  3. Google has become an enemy of the open web, and it's increasingly locking down Android to dominate (with Apple) mobile computing.

Google has become an enemy of the open web, and it's increasingly locking down Android to dominate (with Apple) mobile computing.

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  • raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie

    @dangillmor
    I blinked and missed when they had principles. Before Eric Schmitt?

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    #4

    @raymaccarthy @dangillmor yes, they were the good guy startup for a while around the turn of the century

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    • mkoek@mastodon.nlM mkoek@mastodon.nl

      @raymaccarthy @dangillmor yes, they were the good guy startup for a while around the turn of the century

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      #5

      @mkoek @dangillmor
      That's 25 years ago.
      People still on 486s and Win9x as well as P4 and XP (NT 5.1) just released.

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      • dangillmor@mastodon.socialD dangillmor@mastodon.social

        Google has become an enemy of the open web, and it's increasingly locking down Android to dominate (with Apple) mobile computing. https://keepandroidopen.org/ A once-principled company gets more and more control-freakish, for money and power.

        Nothing Google does now is surprising, just predictable.

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        @dangillmor This is so clear, as they haven't a product that in itself isn't producing value by *addiction*. Apple instead created more dependency on exclusive hardware (with returns from services, even extortively), Meta with online services (returns from ads, payed manipulation), Amazon with old goods capitalism, etc.
        All of them, when they start loosing the initial grip, have to change, to another form of abuse, as any predator. They're all just slimy human garbage, with nice words.

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        • dangillmor@mastodon.socialD dangillmor@mastodon.social

          Google has become an enemy of the open web, and it's increasingly locking down Android to dominate (with Apple) mobile computing. https://keepandroidopen.org/ A once-principled company gets more and more control-freakish, for money and power.

          Nothing Google does now is surprising, just predictable.

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          @dangillmor Were they ever principled though?

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          • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

            @dangillmor Were they ever principled though?

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            @jwz
            The *wink* *wink* went unnoticed in their early motto about how much evil to do.
            @dangillmor

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            • dangillmor@mastodon.socialD dangillmor@mastodon.social

              Google has become an enemy of the open web, and it's increasingly locking down Android to dominate (with Apple) mobile computing. https://keepandroidopen.org/ A once-principled company gets more and more control-freakish, for money and power.

              Nothing Google does now is surprising, just predictable.

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              nicelymanifest@mastodon.social
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              @dangillmor The simple warning that power corrupts has a polarised version with absolute power. But it fails to describe this incremental obsessive steering towards the latter.

              Something that happens so often that we need to rethink how power/responsibility is handled. Across the planet.

              Our genetics often still operate with small, egalitarian community notions.

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              • christo_459@mastodon.me.ukC christo_459@mastodon.me.uk

                @dangillmor
                I have and Android phone. I have shut down all Google stuff. Now every time I start the phone I get ten or more messages insisting I enable playstore as my apps like the met will not work. Everything works well by the way.

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                @Christo_459 @dangillmor similar problem for me and a new car (running Android Automotive)... had to spend a couple of hours digging through settings and disabling apps before I'm comfortable connecting the phone through Android Auto.

                My next phone will definitely be de-Googled, so then I'll have the fun of trying to get those working together...

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                • dangillmor@mastodon.socialD dangillmor@mastodon.social

                  Google has become an enemy of the open web, and it's increasingly locking down Android to dominate (with Apple) mobile computing. https://keepandroidopen.org/ A once-principled company gets more and more control-freakish, for money and power.

                  Nothing Google does now is surprising, just predictable.

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                  @dangillmor dont touch my apks google

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                  • dangillmor@mastodon.socialD dangillmor@mastodon.social

                    Google has become an enemy of the open web, and it's increasingly locking down Android to dominate (with Apple) mobile computing. https://keepandroidopen.org/ A once-principled company gets more and more control-freakish, for money and power.

                    Nothing Google does now is surprising, just predictable.

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                    @dangillmor
                    Googlefree smartphones:

                    https://friendica.world/display/84b6ef2b-116a-895c-242e-d53123920841

                    Jolla
                    Fairphone
                    Volla
                    Murena
                    Freifon
                    Punkt

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                    • raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie

                      @mkoek @dangillmor
                      That's 25 years ago.
                      People still on 486s and Win9x as well as P4 and XP (NT 5.1) just released.

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                      #13

                      @raymaccarthy @dangillmor And Linux! Google was what I used to figure out Linux because it was great to search for HOWTO files. The two sort of belonged together. Difficult to imagine now, I know.

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                      • mkoek@mastodon.nlM mkoek@mastodon.nl

                        @raymaccarthy @dangillmor And Linux! Google was what I used to figure out Linux because it was great to search for HOWTO files. The two sort of belonged together. Difficult to imagine now, I know.

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                        @mkoek @dangillmor
                        I was giving courses on Windows and Linux using RH 6.0 and NT 4.0 in 1999.
                        Google was only a year old then and pretty useless for those. I had MSDN till 2005. CDs then DVDs.
                        You went to the appropriate sites. Mostly you still do.

                        Google was only a major search engine long after NT & Linux were mature.

                        I abandoned Google years ago for DDG, and then it for Qwant. DDG is Bing with feathers.
                        Altavista was far better than Google even in 1999. DEC sold it and it died.

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