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  3. When Laurent Pinchart argued on the kernel mailing list that the Linux kernel still needs a way to set expectations around AI-assisted patches, Torvalds told him to stop using compilers and write his submissions in assembler.

When Laurent Pinchart argued on the kernel mailing list that the Linux kernel still needs a way to set expectations around AI-assisted patches, Torvalds told him to stop using compilers and write his submissions in assembler.

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  • brideoflinux@mastodon.opencloud.luB This user is from outside of this forum
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    When Laurent Pinchart argued on the kernel mailing list that the Linux kernel still needs a way to set expectations around AI-assisted patches, Torvalds told him to stop using compilers and write his submissions in assembler. He added that Pinchart should skip the text editor for his commit messages too. It was sarcasm with a point: Linux Kernel Quits Making Devs Admit AI Use. Linus Explains https://linuxstans.com/linus-torvalds-rejects-no-ai-rules-as-the-linux-kernel-drops-its-assisted-by-tag/

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    • brideoflinux@mastodon.opencloud.luB brideoflinux@mastodon.opencloud.lu

      When Laurent Pinchart argued on the kernel mailing list that the Linux kernel still needs a way to set expectations around AI-assisted patches, Torvalds told him to stop using compilers and write his submissions in assembler. He added that Pinchart should skip the text editor for his commit messages too. It was sarcasm with a point: Linux Kernel Quits Making Devs Admit AI Use. Linus Explains https://linuxstans.com/linus-torvalds-rejects-no-ai-rules-as-the-linux-kernel-drops-its-assisted-by-tag/

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      @BrideOfLinux There is a huge difference between a compiler and a LLM. Linus is make me seriously consider moving to netBSD. I know there's no way to keep slop out of software nowadays, but I personally don't believe it has a place in the kernel, especially if it is not labeled as such.

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        @BrideOfLinux There is a huge difference between a compiler and a LLM. Linus is make me seriously consider moving to netBSD. I know there's no way to keep slop out of software nowadays, but I personally don't believe it has a place in the kernel, especially if it is not labeled as such.

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        @Thorium @BrideOfLinux

        I doubt it is fully Linus, in the Old Days I could see him avoiding #ai

        But the Linux Foundation (LF) is owned by the Large Corporations pushing #ai and the LF Pays Linus and some #Linux Developers. Since that is the case, I would expect this decision came directly from LF via the corporations.

        But I agree, #linux + #ai is bothering me a lot. FWIW, posted using #NetBSD 11.0 via #firefox on a Thinkpad T430 🙂

        #BSD

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        • brideoflinux@mastodon.opencloud.luB brideoflinux@mastodon.opencloud.lu

          When Laurent Pinchart argued on the kernel mailing list that the Linux kernel still needs a way to set expectations around AI-assisted patches, Torvalds told him to stop using compilers and write his submissions in assembler. He added that Pinchart should skip the text editor for his commit messages too. It was sarcasm with a point: Linux Kernel Quits Making Devs Admit AI Use. Linus Explains https://linuxstans.com/linus-torvalds-rejects-no-ai-rules-as-the-linux-kernel-drops-its-assisted-by-tag/

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          @BrideOfLinux
          > Some contributors never read the rule. Others knew it and stayed quiet, partly out of fear of a backlash against LLM users.

          if you fear a backlash when guests find out that your bakery has started to add crushed kitten bones to the flour — one of the staff is guessing it's up to 90% — then it's totally the right call to stay quiet about it or just never read the rule about listing ingredients. that way the guests will be happy. /s

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