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With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!!

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  • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

    With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

    Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

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    amazing_mmoia@mastodon.social
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    #98

    @taylorlorenz .. it’s all about interactive communication.. people want a news feed page where they can share an opinion of feelings and thoughts and have it available to interact.. Facebook is very good doing so, that is why it is so popular.

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    • jamoteusz@mastodon.com.plJ jamoteusz@mastodon.com.pl

      @mastodonmigration @taylorlorenz all we know - people are lazy. So - the easiest way is to join to what all are addicted to.
      Imagine - you open FB and there is "all you need" on demand.
      And now visit all 20 pages of organisations/publishers you are interested in and look for latest news.
      BUT it is very easy - FEDIVERSE...

      where am I?

      mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
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      mastodonmigration@mastodon.online
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      #99

      @Jamoteusz @taylorlorenz

      And yet folks spend inordinate amounts of time and effort on SEO and complex strategies to spoof the algorithms to promote their content.

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      • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

        With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

        Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

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        andreasenglert@mastodon.social
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        #100

        @taylorlorenz I believe the problem is that there is not a lot of information about Mastodon. I just joined yesterday because I wanted to get away from TikTok and just happened to stumble upon this platform by searching for No Tracking Social Media.

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        • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

          With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

          Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

          martlund@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
          martlund@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
          martlund@mastodon.online
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #101

          @taylorlorenz Maybe too confusing to know which one, since there are so many

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          • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

            With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

            Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

            andrei_chiffa@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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            andrei_chiffa@mastodon.social
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            #102

            @taylorlorenz transparency/trust on legal & effective free speech protection; commercial content instances (de)-federation; lack of visibility for famous accounts; lack of context for posts; lack of any algorithm.

            And additionally the fact that commercial social media to everything to maximize engagement and time on the platform, while Mastodon tries to keep the protocol and the initial instance up, running, and minimally sane.

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            • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

              With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

              Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

              chris_colvin@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
              chris_colvin@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
              chris_colvin@mastodon.social
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              #103

              @taylorlorenz honestly, the people that love (are addicted to?) Tiktok and Instagram *want* an algorithm feeding them, or at least want the option. Additionally, Mastodon simply doesn't have the same addiction-based behavioral design... When most of your time is spent reading text or viewing a static image, the endorfin hit is just much smaller and spread out. In that way neither does Twitter, but the last ingredient is siloed rage. Fewer people with more consistent views means less excitement.

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              • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

                glamcode@openbiblio.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                glamcode@openbiblio.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                glamcode@openbiblio.social
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #104

                @taylorlorenz We should market the Fediverse as fun, not only as virtuous. It’s like praising your fruit as „healthy“. True, but I buy where it says „sweet“ 🍇

                I think the #Forkiverse got this right.

                And, as always, do write alt-texts, do not harass new users who don’t.

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                • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                  With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                  Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

                  nikkinoir@theforkiverse.comN This user is from outside of this forum
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                  nikkinoir@theforkiverse.com
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #105

                  @taylorlorenz the network effect, for sure 🙂
                  Big fan of your yt channel btw 🙌

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                  • A andreasenglert@mastodon.social

                    @taylorlorenz I believe the problem is that there is not a lot of information about Mastodon. I just joined yesterday because I wanted to get away from TikTok and just happened to stumble upon this platform by searching for No Tracking Social Media.

                    utopiarte@tupambae.orgU This user is from outside of this forum
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                    utopiarte@tupambae.org
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                    #106

                    @AndreasEnglert
                    The missing information you are talking about is filtered out actively by the platforms you were using for more than a decade at this stage.
                    Post it yourself and you'll see the mafia acting in plain sight restricting your access to your contacts.

                    @taylorlorenz

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                    • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                      With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                      Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

                      omartwotone@ioc.exchangeO This user is from outside of this forum
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                      omartwotone@ioc.exchange
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                      #107

                      @taylorlorenz
                      in a brief explanation: It's a matter of breaking the habits by themselves...

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                      • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                        With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                        Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

                        sven222@soc.hardwarepunk.deS This user is from outside of this forum
                        sven222@soc.hardwarepunk.deS This user is from outside of this forum
                        sven222@soc.hardwarepunk.de
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                        #108
                        @taylorlorenz Maybe telling the people that we have the fediverse with all it's possibilities and that it is more then Mastodon? That it is a real network and not an app?
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                        • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                          With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                          Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

                          janikvonrotz@fosstodon.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
                          janikvonrotz@fosstodon.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
                          janikvonrotz@fosstodon.org
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                          #109

                          @taylorlorenz Explain that the Fediverse cannot be bought by some tech bro millionaire. It is ours.

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                          • sven222@soc.hardwarepunk.deS sven222@soc.hardwarepunk.de
                            @taylorlorenz Maybe telling the people that we have the fediverse with all it's possibilities and that it is more then Mastodon? That it is a real network and not an app?
                            aysc@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                            aysc@mastodon.social
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                            #110

                            @sven222 You're responding to a Mastodon instance. Stay out of the conversation.

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                            • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                              With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                              Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

                              danielswann@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                              danielswann@mastodon.social
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                              #111

                              @taylorlorenz this is very chicken/egg, but I think it needs a more heterogenous user base. if you’re into programming or leftish politics, there are many users to engage with. if you’re looking for discourse around a major sport like football/soccer, there’s almost nothing here.

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                              • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                                With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                                Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

                                petr90@mastodonczech.czP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                petr90@mastodonczech.cz
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #112

                                @taylorlorenz 👍👍👍

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                                • janikvonrotz@fosstodon.orgJ janikvonrotz@fosstodon.org

                                  @taylorlorenz Explain that the Fediverse cannot be bought by some tech bro millionaire. It is ours.

                                  jan@social.dytrych.cloudJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  jan@social.dytrych.cloud
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #113

                                  @janikvonrotz @taylorlorenz good point, but most of the users really don't care, they don't care their pictures are free use for big tech, they don't care that Meta AI is learning on pictures of their kids, learning on text statuses, etc. Now #Fediverse is not easy to discover, not easy to find friends, less users and less topics to discuss. I happy to be here and selfhosting my server, but it will need more work to be done to be competitive!

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                                  • aysc@mastodon.socialA aysc@mastodon.social

                                    @sven222 You're responding to a Mastodon instance. Stay out of the conversation.

                                    sven222@soc.hardwarepunk.deS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    sven222@soc.hardwarepunk.de
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                                    #114
                                    @aysc This post is sent to the complete Fediverse, shoiuld I write "stay out of the fediverse"? No, I see a great fortune in the fediverse, and that you can convince a lot of people to come here by shownig them the oportunitys. People understand that it is not another app, but a complete real network. It is a possibility to show people that are not loocking for a X replacement, that there is peertube and pixelfeed and friendica. Why do you want to keep your network mastodon only?
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                                    • orionkidder@mas.toO orionkidder@mas.to

                                      @bitpickup @taylorlorenz "Refuse" implies she has a responsibility to do it, and I'm not seeing that as anyone's responsibility. Setting up an instance takes time, technical skill, and money. Nobody owes any of that to the world. I'm grateful to those who do, and I support them financially because it can, but that's all.

                                      andyinabox@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      andyinabox@mastodon.social
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                                      #115

                                      @OrionKidder @bitpickup @taylorlorenz it is definitely NOT going to help if we put the onus on new users to run/moderate their own instances (even if we have turnkey solutions for this).

                                      The people I talk to mostly complain that Mastodon seems "too complicated", and the idea that you are obligated to run your own instance is not going to help that.

                                      Eventually some may recognize its in their interest to do so, but we need to LOWER the perceived barrier to entry, not raise it.

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                                      • N nicksworld@mastodon.stickbear.me

                                        @anja @taylorlorenz Advertising is the way. I didn't know about it until my brothers found out somehow, but its not like there's many advertisements for Mastodon like there is for Facebook.

                                        ryebreadnyc@fosstodon.orgR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        ryebreadnyc@fosstodon.org
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                                        #116

                                        @NicksWorld @anja @taylorlorenz reading through this thread and I think we need more things to make it seem cool. Marketing is a good idea. Also, I don’t know how easy it is to build on top of mastodon’s API, my understanding of twitter’s initial rise was openness of the api and the developer ecosystem that created was a big part of adding cool new features.

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                                        • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                                          With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                                          Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

                                          tommyp180@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          tommyp180@mastodon.social
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                                          #117

                                          @taylorlorenz I think ultimately it boils down to the crux of human nature; being in groups. On Facebook, Instagram, TikTok etc., you'll find that's where most of your family and friends are and so naturally it's very hard to migrate to a newer, "unknown" platform. Do we remember how hard it was to get a parent, or grandparent, on Facebook? History repeats itself like that, except this time, we're the boomers!

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