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With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!!

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  • mamalake@beige.partyM mamalake@beige.party

    @taylorlorenz one of the big reasons people stay on corp(s) media is because they are running their businesses there. Small businesses, crafters etc make a ton of sales through tiktok/IG. Leaving their audience is akin to leaving their businesses. I love mastodon! But I can't sell anything without getting blocked or reported.

    morgan@sfba.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #84

    @MamaLake @taylorlorenz is there some agreement that we can't do commerce here?

    I just bought a custom, hand-made bicycle bag from a nice person, and I wish I could talk to him, and about his business on here.

    (Bags by Bird)

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    • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

      With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

      Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

      floppa@fedi.catto.gardenF This user is from outside of this forum
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      #85
      @taylorlorenz nyarrrr, maybe an idiot proof app would help?
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      • morgan@sfba.socialM morgan@sfba.social

        @MamaLake @taylorlorenz is there some agreement that we can't do commerce here?

        I just bought a custom, hand-made bicycle bag from a nice person, and I wish I could talk to him, and about his business on here.

        (Bags by Bird)

        mamalake@beige.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #86

        @morgan @taylorlorenz some instances forbid sales, and many people just don't want to be advertised to.

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        • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

          With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

          Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

          nachtschicht@kirche.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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          #87

          @taylorlorenz

          Use it & Spread the word ✅

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          • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

            With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

            Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

            riccardomilan@mastodon.unoR This user is from outside of this forum
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            #88

            @taylorlorenz Very often, it's a matter of not knowing the platform and ignoring the benefits of a decentralized social network, without algorithms, advertising, or profiling, and above all, with a real chronological timeline. When people begin to understand this, they'll realize the benefits. It's just a matter of time.

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            • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

              With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

              Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

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              amazing_joeyy@mastodon.social
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              #89

              @taylorlorenz I just joined and I have no idea what I’m doing. So, there’s that.

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              • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

                accordingtowouter@mastodon.worldA This user is from outside of this forum
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                #90

                @taylorlorenz Perhaps nothing needs to be changed and Mastodon's strength lies precisely in its decentralised nature and the abundance of choice it offers. As the saying goes, good wine needs no bush. Slowly but surely, the number is growing.

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                • D douglasthiel@universeodon.com

                  @taylorlorenz

                  Maybe change the name Mastodon to something lighter.

                  Compare the mental image Mastodon produces to TikTok, Twitter, BlueSky.

                  dressfleech@social.cologneD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #91

                  @douglasthiel @taylorlorenz I also believe that the solution is that simple.

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                  • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                    @taylorlorenz

                    Institutions, companies, groups and organizations need to recognize that they can host their own social media instances, and thereby own their data and control their presence.

                    This is difficult for them to grasp, because they are used to depending on a corporate intermediary, and entire industries are devoted to fostering this reliance.

                    It's like telling a house cat they can be free and opening the door.

                    jamoteusz@mastodon.com.plJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #92

                    @mastodonmigration @taylorlorenz all we know - people are lazy. So - the easiest way is to join to what all are addicted to.
                    Imagine - you open FB and there is "all you need" on demand.
                    And now visit all 20 pages of organisations/publishers you are interested in and look for latest news.
                    BUT it is very easy - FEDIVERSE...

                    where am I?

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                    • E eggsandtoast@mastodon.social

                      @taylorlorenz I moved to Mastodon because of the it’s decentralized model, but as a not overly technical person it’s not as easy to use. Some of the other platforms and a lot of friends are coasting on the other corporate platforms because they have their friend networks there.

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                      #93

                      @eggsandtoast @taylorlorenz Great point! Entirely the threshold to EXIT on the other platforms rather than a threshold to enter Mastodon.

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                      • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                        With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                        Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

                        silenceetchedonawall@mas.toS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #94

                        I encourage anyone to try LARPING as a potential mastodon user who has experience with other social media but not Mastodon. For example, let's say they're a new user that likes reading books and wants to find posts about books. Or sports. Or anything. Mastodon tells such a user at multiple checkpoints that it's closed to them or that it's a ghost town and no one here is discussing such things.

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                        • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                          With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                          Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

                          philcoyote777@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                          philcoyote777@mastodon.social
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                          #95

                          @taylorlorenz when I explain mastodon to people they are thrilled to join. I haven't ever enjoyed FB like this platform. Give it time. The word is out!

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                          • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                            With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                            Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

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                            chris42@chaos.social
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                            #96

                            @taylorlorenz
                            I think the biggest barrier is that it is just a social network. It is missing commercialisation. You can just be here. So it doesn't work for the majority of influencers, that make money on advertising. It works for the ones that have an interest in a topic and earn their money otherwise. But Mastodon will never develop the drive as other platforms and I think that is good...

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                            • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                              With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                              Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

                              giant_crab@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                              giant_crab@mastodon.social
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                              #97

                              @taylorlorenz if Mastodon had exploded at the same time as Twitter back in the late 2000s, I don’t think there would be an issue. As much as people complain though, I think they generally prefer algorithmic, simpler alternatives.

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                              • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                                With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                                Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

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                                amazing_mmoia@mastodon.social
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                                #98

                                @taylorlorenz .. it’s all about interactive communication.. people want a news feed page where they can share an opinion of feelings and thoughts and have it available to interact.. Facebook is very good doing so, that is why it is so popular.

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                                • jamoteusz@mastodon.com.plJ jamoteusz@mastodon.com.pl

                                  @mastodonmigration @taylorlorenz all we know - people are lazy. So - the easiest way is to join to what all are addicted to.
                                  Imagine - you open FB and there is "all you need" on demand.
                                  And now visit all 20 pages of organisations/publishers you are interested in and look for latest news.
                                  BUT it is very easy - FEDIVERSE...

                                  where am I?

                                  mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  mastodonmigration@mastodon.online
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #99

                                  @Jamoteusz @taylorlorenz

                                  And yet folks spend inordinate amounts of time and effort on SEO and complex strategies to spoof the algorithms to promote their content.

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                                  • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                                    With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                                    Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

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                                    andreasenglert@mastodon.social
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                                    #100

                                    @taylorlorenz I believe the problem is that there is not a lot of information about Mastodon. I just joined yesterday because I wanted to get away from TikTok and just happened to stumble upon this platform by searching for No Tracking Social Media.

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                                    • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                                      With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                                      Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

                                      martlund@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #101

                                      @taylorlorenz Maybe too confusing to know which one, since there are so many

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                                      • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                                        With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                                        Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

                                        andrei_chiffa@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #102

                                        @taylorlorenz transparency/trust on legal & effective free speech protection; commercial content instances (de)-federation; lack of visibility for famous accounts; lack of context for posts; lack of any algorithm.

                                        And additionally the fact that commercial social media to everything to maximize engagement and time on the platform, while Mastodon tries to keep the protocol and the initial instance up, running, and minimally sane.

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                                        • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                                          With all the tiktok drama I have been telling people Mastodon is still here and kicking!! I love this app and I really think the decentralized model is the best for social media.

                                          Still, people don’t want to join! What do you think Mastodon’s biggest barriers are to courting new users? What could be done to improve the product and grow the user base in a positive way?

                                          chris_colvin@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          chris_colvin@mastodon.social
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                                          #103

                                          @taylorlorenz honestly, the people that love (are addicted to?) Tiktok and Instagram *want* an algorithm feeding them, or at least want the option. Additionally, Mastodon simply doesn't have the same addiction-based behavioral design... When most of your time is spent reading text or viewing a static image, the endorfin hit is just much smaller and spread out. In that way neither does Twitter, but the last ingredient is siloed rage. Fewer people with more consistent views means less excitement.

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