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  3. Visit Homebrew, Rustup, Oh My Zsh, nvm and few other popular open source projects website and you realise that quietly `curl -fsSL` has become the most popular package manager for Linux and Unix users 😂 How did we get here ?

Visit Homebrew, Rustup, Oh My Zsh, nvm and few other popular open source projects website and you realise that quietly `curl -fsSL` has become the most popular package manager for Linux and Unix users 😂 How did we get here ?

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  • thatdnaguy@genomic.socialT thatdnaguy@genomic.social

    @nixCraft the first time I saw some of those instructions, I thought it was the hack way of doing it without a package manager. Then I realized it was THE way and was completely shocked.

    mikalai@privacysafe.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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    mikalai@privacysafe.social
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    #19

    @thatdnaguy @nixCraft
    But isn't it convenient in one's CI pipeline? Inside of some container.
    .... looking for dictionary definition of supply chain attack...

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    • levrden@mastodon.socialL levrden@mastodon.social

      @nixCraft wouldn't it be even better to explain clearly instead of making fun of people?

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      #20

      @levrden @nixCraft
      Jo. These folks have been talking soooo many times about it. This is their professional, slightly nervous fun.
      On practical note, they really don't know how else to pass this ... trivial info, for practical end.
      As a member of normal group, may be you can volunteer persvasive words.
      Persvaisive for your locale at least.

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      • C chris1776@mastodon.bsd.cafe

        @nixCraft cargo install is just as bad

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        #21

        @Chris1776 @nixCraft
        Does it check signatures ... at least

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        • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

          Visit Homebrew, Rustup, Oh My Zsh, nvm and few other popular open source projects website and you realise that quietly `curl -fsSL` has become the most popular package manager for Linux and Unix users 😂 How did we get here ? 😔 Just pipe the random commands into your shell with sudo added to the mix. What could possibly go wrong? 😑

          taffer@mastodon.gamedev.placeT This user is from outside of this forum
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          taffer@mastodon.gamedev.place
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          #22

          @nixCraft It’s as safe as using npm… 🤦

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          • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

            Visit Homebrew, Rustup, Oh My Zsh, nvm and few other popular open source projects website and you realise that quietly `curl -fsSL` has become the most popular package manager for Linux and Unix users 😂 How did we get here ? 😔 Just pipe the random commands into your shell with sudo added to the mix. What could possibly go wrong? 😑

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            #23

            @nixCraft

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            • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

              Visit Homebrew, Rustup, Oh My Zsh, nvm and few other popular open source projects website and you realise that quietly `curl -fsSL` has become the most popular package manager for Linux and Unix users 😂 How did we get here ? 😔 Just pipe the random commands into your shell with sudo added to the mix. What could possibly go wrong? 😑

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              #24

              Their trying to say, or just saying what's up to NixCraft. Can't really just say anything on a page, others sees them comments. But I guess there's issue unmentioned, not just what's up all the time.

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              • levrden@mastodon.socialL levrden@mastodon.social

                @nixCraft wouldn't it be even better to explain clearly instead of making fun of people?

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                #25

                @levrden
                you go to the furniture shop to buy a sofa. the sales assistant tells you that the recommended way to install the sofa in your home is if you make a copy of your door key and give that to her. 🛋️🔑

                everyone does this, and soon you've given out a dozen copies of your front door key to everyone including the pizza delivery driver. one morning you wake up your socks and your credit card are missing. 🧦💳

                yes, no one should make fun the victim of such theft. but isn't it okay to mock the businesses who put their customers at risk by asking all of them for their door keys? 🤡
                @nixCraft

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                • pelle@veganism.socialP pelle@veganism.social

                  @levrden
                  you go to the furniture shop to buy a sofa. the sales assistant tells you that the recommended way to install the sofa in your home is if you make a copy of your door key and give that to her. 🛋️🔑

                  everyone does this, and soon you've given out a dozen copies of your front door key to everyone including the pizza delivery driver. one morning you wake up your socks and your credit card are missing. 🧦💳

                  yes, no one should make fun the victim of such theft. but isn't it okay to mock the businesses who put their customers at risk by asking all of them for their door keys? 🤡
                  @nixCraft

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                  #26

                  @pelle @nixCraft I got this, but the linux commands are so unclear when you're a beginner and want to try linux, it's not really clear how it is unsafe, as non tech people doesn't identify theses practices easily

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                  • pelle@veganism.socialP pelle@veganism.social

                    @levrden
                    you go to the furniture shop to buy a sofa. the sales assistant tells you that the recommended way to install the sofa in your home is if you make a copy of your door key and give that to her. 🛋️🔑

                    everyone does this, and soon you've given out a dozen copies of your front door key to everyone including the pizza delivery driver. one morning you wake up your socks and your credit card are missing. 🧦💳

                    yes, no one should make fun the victim of such theft. but isn't it okay to mock the businesses who put their customers at risk by asking all of them for their door keys? 🤡
                    @nixCraft

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                    #27

                    @pelle @nixCraft sorry my English reading brain wasn't fully started when I rode your comment
                    Yes of course it is okay even recommended to make fun of the businesses 🩷

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                    • levrden@mastodon.socialL levrden@mastodon.social

                      @pelle @nixCraft I got this, but the linux commands are so unclear when you're a beginner and want to try linux, it's not really clear how it is unsafe, as non tech people doesn't identify theses practices easily

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                      #28

                      @levrden
                      i see your point. it would've made more sense to make fun of the •developers• than the •users• because it's the developers who
                      put curl|sh on their websites.
                      @nixCraft

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