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  3. I've started asking people the thought experiment "are there more doors or wheels on planet earth?".

I've started asking people the thought experiment "are there more doors or wheels on planet earth?".

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  • michael@westergaard.socialM michael@westergaard.social
    Cars have 4(ish) doors and 4(ish) wheels so they don't matter. Bikes have 2(ish) wheels and no doors. Houses have ~10 doors and no wheels. Nothing else has wheels or doors. There are likely not 5 times as many bikes as houses in the world. Ergo, doors.
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    #6

    @michael @fesshole

    Toys heavily skew the balance though. Toy cars tend to have 4 wheels and no doors and dollhouses tend to have at most one door but toy cars heavily outnumber dollhouses

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    • michael@westergaard.socialM michael@westergaard.social
      Cars have 4(ish) doors and 4(ish) wheels so they don't matter. Bikes have 2(ish) wheels and no doors. Houses have ~10 doors and no wheels. Nothing else has wheels or doors. There are likely not 5 times as many bikes as houses in the world. Ergo, doors.
      anke@social.scribblers.clubA This user is from outside of this forum
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      #7

      @michael @fesshole
      I currently sit on a chair with 5 wheels, and there are small furniture pieces in this room with a total of 18 wheels...
      But also 8 cabinet doors.
      I don't think it's that trivial.

      ...also, do mouse wheels count?

      colmdonoghue@mastodon.ieC normandunbar@mastodon.scotN damonwakes@mastodon.sdf.orgD supermoosie@mastodon.auS 4 Replies Last reply
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      • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

        I've started asking people the thought experiment "are there more doors or wheels on planet earth?". I don't really care about their answer, but the speed at which they ask ChatGPT allows me to assess how much I care about their thoughts and opinions on other matters.

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        #8

        @fesshole @benroyce Yes, more fun to think about it. Can I count field effect transistors as tiny doors…

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        • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

          I've started asking people the thought experiment "are there more doors or wheels on planet earth?". I don't really care about their answer, but the speed at which they ask ChatGPT allows me to assess how much I care about their thoughts and opinions on other matters.

          therockfiles@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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          #9

          @fesshole But are there more wheels, doors OR bricks on earth? To make things a bit more complicated...

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          • damonwakes@mastodon.sdf.orgD damonwakes@mastodon.sdf.org

            @fesshole Does a ball bearing count as a wheel?

            saxnot@chaos.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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            #10

            @DamonWakes @fesshole personally i would say yeah

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            • michael@westergaard.socialM michael@westergaard.social
              Cars have 4(ish) doors and 4(ish) wheels so they don't matter. Bikes have 2(ish) wheels and no doors. Houses have ~10 doors and no wheels. Nothing else has wheels or doors. There are likely not 5 times as many bikes as houses in the world. Ergo, doors.
              tarbh@mastodon.ieT This user is from outside of this forum
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              #11

              @michael @fesshole Shopping trolleys and 18-wheeler trucks...

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              • michael@westergaard.socialM michael@westergaard.social
                Cars have 4(ish) doors and 4(ish) wheels so they don't matter. Bikes have 2(ish) wheels and no doors. Houses have ~10 doors and no wheels. Nothing else has wheels or doors. There are likely not 5 times as many bikes as houses in the world. Ergo, doors.
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                #12

                @michael @fesshole > Nothing else has wheels or doors.

                uh you sure about it?

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                • anke@social.scribblers.clubA anke@social.scribblers.club

                  @michael @fesshole
                  I currently sit on a chair with 5 wheels, and there are small furniture pieces in this room with a total of 18 wheels...
                  But also 8 cabinet doors.
                  I don't think it's that trivial.

                  ...also, do mouse wheels count?

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                  #13

                  @Anke @michael @fesshole cars also have steering, spare&pretensioning wheels

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                  • michael@westergaard.socialM michael@westergaard.social
                    Cars have 4(ish) doors and 4(ish) wheels so they don't matter. Bikes have 2(ish) wheels and no doors. Houses have ~10 doors and no wheels. Nothing else has wheels or doors. There are likely not 5 times as many bikes as houses in the world. Ergo, doors.
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                    #14

                    @michael @fesshole

                    "nothing else has wheels or doors..."

                    what

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                    • anke@social.scribblers.clubA anke@social.scribblers.club

                      @michael @fesshole
                      I currently sit on a chair with 5 wheels, and there are small furniture pieces in this room with a total of 18 wheels...
                      But also 8 cabinet doors.
                      I don't think it's that trivial.

                      ...also, do mouse wheels count?

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                      #15

                      @Anke @michael @fesshole Plus the two wheels inside the mouse that determine X and Y movement. (LED mouses need not apply!)

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                      • colmdonoghue@mastodon.ieC colmdonoghue@mastodon.ie

                        @Anke @michael @fesshole cars also have steering, spare&pretensioning wheels

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                        #16

                        @ColmDonoghue @Anke @michael @fesshole And lots of wheels inside the gearbox and diff and a fly wheel in the engine ...

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                        • tarbh@mastodon.ieT tarbh@mastodon.ie

                          @michael @fesshole Shopping trolleys and 18-wheeler trucks...

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                          #17

                          @Tarbh @michael @fesshole Prams and pushchairs.

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                          • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

                            I've started asking people the thought experiment "are there more doors or wheels on planet earth?". I don't really care about their answer, but the speed at which they ask ChatGPT allows me to assess how much I care about their thoughts and opinions on other matters.

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                            #18

                            @fesshole Then I take it as a sign of health that I didn't think of asking LLM about it until I arrived at your mention of it

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                            • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

                              I've started asking people the thought experiment "are there more doors or wheels on planet earth?". I don't really care about their answer, but the speed at which they ask ChatGPT allows me to assess how much I care about their thoughts and opinions on other matters.

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                              cowabbie@mastodon.social
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                              #19

                              @fesshole given that most cars have 4 doors..

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                              • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

                                I've started asking people the thought experiment "are there more doors or wheels on planet earth?". I don't really care about their answer, but the speed at which they ask ChatGPT allows me to assess how much I care about their thoughts and opinions on other matters.

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                                #20

                                @fesshole does a revolving door count as both a door and a wheel?

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                                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                  @fesshole

                                  last night i was in a conversation with someone right here on mastodon and as we discussed the topic they posted a screenshot of them asking chatgpt a question on the topic

                                  right here on mastodon

                                  we're so fucking doomed

                                  people's brains are turning to mush

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                                  #21

                                  @benroyce Whenever someone posts a Gemini screenshot as proof, I always have to ask, "You don't realize how much of a self-own that is, do you?" Right over their heads.

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                                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                    @fesshole

                                    last night i was in a conversation with someone right here on mastodon and as we discussed the topic they posted a screenshot of them asking chatgpt a question on the topic

                                    right here on mastodon

                                    we're so fucking doomed

                                    people's brains are turning to mush

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                                    #22

                                    @benroyce @fesshole - Absolutely; as more and people begin to rely on fake knowledge from AI. the learning of subjects takes a dive. have an excellent weekend.

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                                    • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

                                      I've started asking people the thought experiment "are there more doors or wheels on planet earth?". I don't really care about their answer, but the speed at which they ask ChatGPT allows me to assess how much I care about their thoughts and opinions on other matters.

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                                      #23

                                      @fesshole So... I wouldn't trust an AI to come up with anything close to a correct answer.

                                      However if I wanted "massive list of things with doors" and "massive list of things with wheels" to ground my reasoning, I think that would be a good use of it.

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                                      • saxnot@chaos.socialS saxnot@chaos.social

                                        @michael @fesshole > Nothing else has wheels or doors.

                                        uh you sure about it?

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                                        #24
                                        partly joking, partly "nothing else matters compared to the number of houses"
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                                        • C cowabbie@mastodon.social

                                          @fesshole given that most cars have 4 doors..

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                                          #25

                                          @Cowabbie Most cars also have 4 wheels, so they cancel each other out

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