I've started asking people the thought experiment "are there more doors or wheels on planet earth?".

[normandunbar@mastodon.scot]

@ColmDonoghue @Anke @michael @fesshole And lots of wheels inside the gearbox and diff and a fly wheel in the engine ...

[normandunbar@mastodon.scot]

@Tarbh @michael @fesshole Prams and pushchairs.

[goblinquester@dice.camp]

@fesshole Then I take it as a sign of health that I didn't think of asking LLM about it until I arrived at your mention of it

[cowabbie@mastodon.social]

@fesshole given that most cars have 4 doors..

[shiitaketoast@beige.party]

@fesshole does a revolving door count as both a door and a wheel?

[hisvirusness@mastodon.social]

@benroyce Whenever someone posts a Gemini screenshot as proof, I always have to ask, "You don't realize how much of a self-own that is, do you?" Right over their heads.

[atlovato@mastodon.social]

@benroyce @fesshole - Absolutely; as more and people begin to rely on fake knowledge from AI. the learning of subjects takes a dive. have an excellent weekend.

[aeoncypher@lgbtqia.space]

@fesshole So... I wouldn't trust an AI to come up with anything close to a correct answer.

However if I wanted "massive list of things with doors" and "massive list of things with wheels" to ground my reasoning, I think that would be a good use of it.

[michael@westergaard.social]

partly joking, partly "nothing else matters compared to the number of houses"

[mjc0961@mastodon.social]

@Cowabbie Most cars also have 4 wheels, so they cancel each other out

[supermoosie@mastodon.au]

@michael @fesshole

How many wheels on your office chair?

[ukeleleeric@mstdn.social]

@fesshole and 4 driving wheels, and a spare wheel, and wheels in the engine...

[neongod@mstdn.social]

@fesshole What about those who will start with "I'm glad you asked. What a thoughtful question..."

[davep@infosec.exchange]

@benroyce @fesshole

It's akin to the village idiot having skim-read an encyclopaedia while drunk.

[lunarloony@dosgame.club]

@michael @fesshole Depends if hatches are doors - in which case, cars have... er, more than 4. Ish.

[robchapman@ohai.social]

@fesshole
Hmm
1 on a unicycle
2 on a bike
3 or 4 wheels and 2 or 4 doors on a car
Lorries are dependant on wheel base and class
Planes multiple wheels and doors
A boat has doors, but if it carries cars, bikes, lorries, vans and a unicycle it has a lot of both
A house has doors, but if it has a water wheel, it has a wheel
The London eye is a wheel but has doors
Fairs have Ferris wheels, the ticket booth has a door
The Doors (great band)
and Huxley gave us the Doors of Perception.
- so Doors

[damonwakes@mastodon.sdf.org]

@Anke @michael @fesshole These ones sure do.

[eetschrijver@mastodon.social]

@benroyce @fesshole If all you have is natural stupidity, there's more than one motivation to resort to this.

[ainmosni@social.ainmosni.eu]

@lunarloony @michael @fesshole

So... this depends on what we define as wheel, as many things inside a normal household contain wheels for mechanical purposes. Doors, otoh, are not used for half as many things. So if we go by that logic, I would say that there are many more wheels on earth than doors.

[cascheranno@hachyderm.io]

@michael @fesshole truck doors (3) outnumbered by wheels (6, 10, 18). Schools & Commercial buildings are peppered with doors.

Shopping carts, train cars, wheeled appliances, wheeled furniture, and many tools & toys have far more wheels than doors, and are in homes by vast numbers. Once I start considering all of those wheels, I can count my home’s doors in moments but find myself unable to enumerate all the wheels tucked away in odd use cases in that house.

How narrowly do we define wheels? Flywheels? Toothed wheels (gears)? Pulleys or wheels holding belts?

Cars and other motors have flywheels, gear works are full of wheels, wheels persist in clocks and watches. A big retail Hot Wheels display at Christmas countermands the doors of a small city. Pumps, turbines, water meters and anemometers rely on wheels.