"I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure.
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"I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure. Here's the stack I landed on, what was harder than expected, and what you still can't avoid."
https://www.coinerella.com/made-in-eu-it-was-harder-than-i-thought/
We need more stories like this being shared in the open. You can criticise some parts of the decisions made here, but that's not the point. Someone tried, learned and shares the result. *That's* the point.
@jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net
I sometimes wonder whether, as a US-based person, it might not still make sense to move my vanity-domains to a non-US alternative to Linode (for my needs, a hyperscaler's pricing structure just never makes sense). The idea first popped up when Linode got bought by Akmai, but was really only ever notional. With the fuckery around Trump 2.0, it was a smidge more than just notional ...but still a very low-priority brain-bug. -
"I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure. Here's the stack I landed on, what was harder than expected, and what you still can't avoid."
https://www.coinerella.com/made-in-eu-it-was-harder-than-i-thought/
We need more stories like this being shared in the open. You can criticise some parts of the decisions made here, but that's not the point. Someone tried, learned and shares the result. *That's* the point.
@jwildeboer The page lacks any details whatsoever - especially about roadblock that popped up and any workarounds. Perphaps good enough for a personal project, but not for an actual business that looks to be "made in EU".
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"I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure. Here's the stack I landed on, what was harder than expected, and what you still can't avoid."
https://www.coinerella.com/made-in-eu-it-was-harder-than-i-thought/
We need more stories like this being shared in the open. You can criticise some parts of the decisions made here, but that's not the point. Someone tried, learned and shares the result. *That's* the point.
@jwildeboer for AI not trying Mistral? It's EU right?
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"I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure. Here's the stack I landed on, what was harder than expected, and what you still can't avoid."
https://www.coinerella.com/made-in-eu-it-was-harder-than-i-thought/
We need more stories like this being shared in the open. You can criticise some parts of the decisions made here, but that's not the point. Someone tried, learned and shares the result. *That's* the point.
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"I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure. Here's the stack I landed on, what was harder than expected, and what you still can't avoid."
https://www.coinerella.com/made-in-eu-it-was-harder-than-i-thought/
We need more stories like this being shared in the open. You can criticise some parts of the decisions made here, but that's not the point. Someone tried, learned and shares the result. *That's* the point.
@jwildeboer And there is a new (but well known) player on the cdn-market: https://www.varnish-cdn.com/
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"I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure. Here's the stack I landed on, what was harder than expected, and what you still can't avoid."
https://www.coinerella.com/made-in-eu-it-was-harder-than-i-thought/
We need more stories like this being shared in the open. You can criticise some parts of the decisions made here, but that's not the point. Someone tried, learned and shares the result. *That's* the point.
@jwildeboer "Leaving GitHub" and "walking away feels like leaving a city you've lived in for a decade."
People I guess really live in GitHub or got used to it... which is fair but scary to feel like it's "leaving a city you've lived in for a decade." - Guess that is for a lot of things and a shakeup can make us better in #moving. Like moving #house / #city...
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"I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure. Here's the stack I landed on, what was harder than expected, and what you still can't avoid."
https://www.coinerella.com/made-in-eu-it-was-harder-than-i-thought/
We need more stories like this being shared in the open. You can criticise some parts of the decisions made here, but that's not the point. Someone tried, learned and shares the result. *That's* the point.
@jwildeboer very much depends how simple your system is and the external dependencies. I find that running my own email easier and less fiddling around than outsourcing that, self-hosting plain git is trivial, limiting use of AI to dedicated models in niche use cases rather than massive LLM means it's easier to host.
But then, I've had decades of application hosting and ISP experience so know the pitfalls. -
@jwildeboer for AI not trying Mistral? It's EU right?
@edthix @jwildeboer OOP explicity says they want Claude. Some people have a personal lock-in for a specific AI already. This is to be expected, and explains why Copilot and Kiro are being pushed on Azure and AWS customers with extreme force: if you can get people used to the flavor of your LLM, they might never want to leave anymore, because they'll talk to their LLM more than to any human probably.
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@jwildeboer very much depends how simple your system is and the external dependencies. I find that running my own email easier and less fiddling around than outsourcing that, self-hosting plain git is trivial, limiting use of AI to dedicated models in niche use cases rather than massive LLM means it's easier to host.
But then, I've had decades of application hosting and ISP experience so know the pitfalls.@jwildeboer also, regarding keeping things simple. if your business model doesn't depend on third party ad placement on your pages or analytics then it makes GDPR a breeze, no cookie banners needed. That in itself is a huge sales conversion benefit if you don't need to interrupt the flow with unnecessary interruptions. #ux #gdpr
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"I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure. Here's the stack I landed on, what was harder than expected, and what you still can't avoid."
https://www.coinerella.com/made-in-eu-it-was-harder-than-i-thought/
We need more stories like this being shared in the open. You can criticise some parts of the decisions made here, but that's not the point. Someone tried, learned and shares the result. *That's* the point.
@jwildeboer Great … but why? I also have a startup (used to be an IT guy for 30 years) not thinking about doing this myself. I want to work on my startup … not my IT environment
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@jwildeboer Great … but why? I also have a startup (used to be an IT guy for 30 years) not thinking about doing this myself. I want to work on my startup … not my IT environment
@theodorus_75 Fine with me. I guess you simply are not the target audience for this article :))
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@jwildeboer very much depends how simple your system is and the external dependencies. I find that running my own email easier and less fiddling around than outsourcing that, self-hosting plain git is trivial, limiting use of AI to dedicated models in niche use cases rather than massive LLM means it's easier to host.
But then, I've had decades of application hosting and ISP experience so know the pitfalls.@zymurgic how do you make sure that gmail and other big providers accept your emails?
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