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  • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

    "I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure. Here's the stack I landed on, what was harder than expected, and what you still can't avoid."

    https://www.coinerella.com/made-in-eu-it-was-harder-than-i-thought/

    We need more stories like this being shared in the open. You can criticise some parts of the decisions made here, but that's not the point. Someone tried, learned and shares the result. *That's* the point.

    #DigitalSovereignty #SelfHost #Cloudless

    edthix@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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    #9

    @jwildeboer for AI not trying Mistral? It's EU right?

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    • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

      "I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure. Here's the stack I landed on, what was harder than expected, and what you still can't avoid."

      https://www.coinerella.com/made-in-eu-it-was-harder-than-i-thought/

      We need more stories like this being shared in the open. You can criticise some parts of the decisions made here, but that's not the point. Someone tried, learned and shares the result. *That's* the point.

      #DigitalSovereignty #SelfHost #Cloudless

      catsith@ieji.deC This user is from outside of this forum
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      #10

      @jwildeboer @q maybe you can shed some light on this: https://www.coinerella.com/made-in-eu-it-was-harder-than-i-thought/#:~:text=Certain%20TLDs%20cost%20significantly%20more%20when%20purchased%20through%20European%20registrars.?

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      • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

        "I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure. Here's the stack I landed on, what was harder than expected, and what you still can't avoid."

        https://www.coinerella.com/made-in-eu-it-was-harder-than-i-thought/

        We need more stories like this being shared in the open. You can criticise some parts of the decisions made here, but that's not the point. Someone tried, learned and shares the result. *That's* the point.

        #DigitalSovereignty #SelfHost #Cloudless

        phreaknerd@social.tchncs.deP This user is from outside of this forum
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        #11

        @jwildeboer And there is a new (but well known) player on the cdn-market: https://www.varnish-cdn.com/

        #varnish #varnishcdn #norway

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        • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

          "I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure. Here's the stack I landed on, what was harder than expected, and what you still can't avoid."

          https://www.coinerella.com/made-in-eu-it-was-harder-than-i-thought/

          We need more stories like this being shared in the open. You can criticise some parts of the decisions made here, but that's not the point. Someone tried, learned and shares the result. *That's* the point.

          #DigitalSovereignty #SelfHost #Cloudless

          collective_truth@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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          #12

          @jwildeboer "Leaving GitHub" and "walking away feels like leaving a city you've lived in for a decade."

          People I guess really live in GitHub or got used to it... which is fair but scary to feel like it's "leaving a city you've lived in for a decade." - Guess that is for a lot of things and a shakeup can make us better in #moving. Like moving #house / #city...

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          • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

            "I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure. Here's the stack I landed on, what was harder than expected, and what you still can't avoid."

            https://www.coinerella.com/made-in-eu-it-was-harder-than-i-thought/

            We need more stories like this being shared in the open. You can criticise some parts of the decisions made here, but that's not the point. Someone tried, learned and shares the result. *That's* the point.

            #DigitalSovereignty #SelfHost #Cloudless

            zymurgic@mastodon.onlineZ This user is from outside of this forum
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            #13

            @jwildeboer very much depends how simple your system is and the external dependencies. I find that running my own email easier and less fiddling around than outsourcing that, self-hosting plain git is trivial, limiting use of AI to dedicated models in niche use cases rather than massive LLM means it's easier to host.
            But then, I've had decades of application hosting and ISP experience so know the pitfalls.

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            • edthix@mastodon.socialE edthix@mastodon.social

              @jwildeboer for AI not trying Mistral? It's EU right?

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              #14

              @edthix @jwildeboer OOP explicity says they want Claude. Some people have a personal lock-in for a specific AI already. This is to be expected, and explains why Copilot and Kiro are being pushed on Azure and AWS customers with extreme force: if you can get people used to the flavor of your LLM, they might never want to leave anymore, because they'll talk to their LLM more than to any human probably.

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              • zymurgic@mastodon.onlineZ zymurgic@mastodon.online

                @jwildeboer very much depends how simple your system is and the external dependencies. I find that running my own email easier and less fiddling around than outsourcing that, self-hosting plain git is trivial, limiting use of AI to dedicated models in niche use cases rather than massive LLM means it's easier to host.
                But then, I've had decades of application hosting and ISP experience so know the pitfalls.

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                #15

                @jwildeboer also, regarding keeping things simple. if your business model doesn't depend on third party ad placement on your pages or analytics then it makes GDPR a breeze, no cookie banners needed. That in itself is a huge sales conversion benefit if you don't need to interrupt the flow with unnecessary interruptions. #ux #gdpr

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                • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                  "I tried building my startup entirely on European infrastructure. Here's the stack I landed on, what was harder than expected, and what you still can't avoid."

                  https://www.coinerella.com/made-in-eu-it-was-harder-than-i-thought/

                  We need more stories like this being shared in the open. You can criticise some parts of the decisions made here, but that's not the point. Someone tried, learned and shares the result. *That's* the point.

                  #DigitalSovereignty #SelfHost #Cloudless

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                  #16

                  @jwildeboer Great … but why? I also have a startup (used to be an IT guy for 30 years) not thinking about doing this myself. I want to work on my startup … not my IT environment

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                  • theodorus_75@mastodon.socialT theodorus_75@mastodon.social

                    @jwildeboer Great … but why? I also have a startup (used to be an IT guy for 30 years) not thinking about doing this myself. I want to work on my startup … not my IT environment

                    jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #17

                    @theodorus_75 Fine with me. I guess you simply are not the target audience for this article :))

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                    • zymurgic@mastodon.onlineZ zymurgic@mastodon.online

                      @jwildeboer very much depends how simple your system is and the external dependencies. I find that running my own email easier and less fiddling around than outsourcing that, self-hosting plain git is trivial, limiting use of AI to dedicated models in niche use cases rather than massive LLM means it's easier to host.
                      But then, I've had decades of application hosting and ISP experience so know the pitfalls.

                      arnebab@rollenspiel.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #18

                      @zymurgic how do you make sure that gmail and other big providers accept your emails?

                      @jwildeboer

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