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  • walrus@toot.walesW walrus@toot.wales

    @riggbeck @print

    A pedant writes...

    thisIsCamelCase and
    ThisIsPascalCase.

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    #31

    @Walrus @riggbeck

    medial capitals:

    Pascal case = upper camel case

    There is also dormadary or lower camel case.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camel_case

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    • P print@theforkiverse.com

      @crabby
      Wikipedia calls the example as Pascal case or upper camel case.

      Your example with initial lower case is a example of lower camel case or dromedary case.

      I guess we are both correct and I have learnt something.

      Either way is better than all lowercase.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camel_case

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      #32

      @print
      @crabby

      Technically it is camelCase and PascalCase, yeah, but:

      - CamelCase is pretty self-evident, where PascalCase relies on obscure programming language trivia to even begin making sense.

      - It'll require WAY more explanation to understand the difference between camelCase and PascalCase, and even that there is a difference, than getting the point of CamelCase.

      - For this CamelCase is actually preferred to camelCase.

      - We're discussing ACCESSIBILITY, not programming conventions and history. And making that distinction is about as inaccessible as it gets. 🥴

      ·

      Take this for somebody with quite a pedant vein as well: just say/use CamelCase and forget the mess, being "correct" here is of no use.

      Or consider camelCase and CamelCase different words, if it helps. 😜

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      • P print@theforkiverse.com

        Hi everyone,

        If you are using hastags with multiple words, please use camel case.

        #LikeThisExample

        Not #likethisexample

        Why?

        A) Screen readers will see a bunch of letters that doesn't make one word and read out each individual letter. Which makes it hard to understand.

        B) For us sighted people, it is also easier to read.

        Thanks you

        #TheForkiverse

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        #33

        @print Thank you, I didn't know that it would make it easier for screenreaders.

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        • yenndc@kolektiva.socialY yenndc@kolektiva.social

          @print
          @crabby

          Technically it is camelCase and PascalCase, yeah, but:

          - CamelCase is pretty self-evident, where PascalCase relies on obscure programming language trivia to even begin making sense.

          - It'll require WAY more explanation to understand the difference between camelCase and PascalCase, and even that there is a difference, than getting the point of CamelCase.

          - For this CamelCase is actually preferred to camelCase.

          - We're discussing ACCESSIBILITY, not programming conventions and history. And making that distinction is about as inaccessible as it gets. 🥴

          ·

          Take this for somebody with quite a pedant vein as well: just say/use CamelCase and forget the mess, being "correct" here is of no use.

          Or consider camelCase and CamelCase different words, if it helps. 😜

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          print@theforkiverse.com
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          #34

          @yenndc @crabby
          "The earliest use of the name "Camel Case" occurs in 1995, in a post by Newton Love. "With the advent of programming languages having these sorts of constructs, the humpiness of the style made me call it HumpyCase at first, before I settled on CamelCase. I had been calling it CamelCase for years. ... The citation above was just the first time I had used the name on USENET."[
          The term "Pascal Case" was coined in design discussions for the .NET Framework, first released in 2002

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          • crabby@mastodon.worldC crabby@mastodon.world

            @print

            I always thought it was

            #camelCase

            and your example was

            #PascalCase ?

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            #35

            @crabby @print

            I've always been a fan of #UpperCamelCase and #lowerCamelCase (with camel case just meaning either one depending on context) since those are way more self evident terms

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            • P print@theforkiverse.com

              @yenndc @crabby
              "The earliest use of the name "Camel Case" occurs in 1995, in a post by Newton Love. "With the advent of programming languages having these sorts of constructs, the humpiness of the style made me call it HumpyCase at first, before I settled on CamelCase. I had been calling it CamelCase for years. ... The citation above was just the first time I had used the name on USENET."[
              The term "Pascal Case" was coined in design discussions for the .NET Framework, first released in 2002

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              #36

              @print
              @crabby

              Even more reason for CamelCase then! ^~

              Pretty sure both of them are older; but since I have no reference to back it up I'll just leave it there. :3

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              • P print@theforkiverse.com

                Hi everyone,

                If you are using hastags with multiple words, please use camel case.

                #LikeThisExample

                Not #likethisexample

                Why?

                A) Screen readers will see a bunch of letters that doesn't make one word and read out each individual letter. Which makes it hard to understand.

                B) For us sighted people, it is also easier to read.

                Thanks you

                #TheForkiverse

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                #37

                @print Do the tags get listed as different if using caps?

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                • P print@theforkiverse.com

                  Hi everyone,

                  If you are using hastags with multiple words, please use camel case.

                  #LikeThisExample

                  Not #likethisexample

                  Why?

                  A) Screen readers will see a bunch of letters that doesn't make one word and read out each individual letter. Which makes it hard to understand.

                  B) For us sighted people, it is also easier to read.

                  Thanks you

                  #TheForkiverse

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                  #38

                  @print

                  TIL, thanks for the tip 👍

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                  • jaxxai@floss.socialJ jaxxai@floss.social

                    @print but camel case would actually be #likeThisExample

                    No caps on first letter.

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                    #39

                    @JaxxAI

                    According to Wikipedia,, and the person who invented the term. it is correct.

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                    • libewa@chaos.socialL libewa@chaos.social

                      @print @d1
                      Official Mastodon app (and website, iirc) too… seems to be the norm.

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                      djstreethawk@mastodon.scot
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                      #40

                      @libewa @print @d1 please don't @ me if I'm wrong, but are these all keyboard issues? #gboardalternative #gboard

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                      • P print@theforkiverse.com

                        Hi everyone,

                        If you are using hastags with multiple words, please use camel case.

                        #LikeThisExample

                        Not #likethisexample

                        Why?

                        A) Screen readers will see a bunch of letters that doesn't make one word and read out each individual letter. Which makes it hard to understand.

                        B) For us sighted people, it is also easier to read.

                        Thanks you

                        #TheForkiverse

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                        #41

                        @print@theforkiverse.com Actually I can’t think of anyone who wouldn’t benefit from writing hashtags this way.

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                        • P print@theforkiverse.com

                          Hi everyone,

                          If you are using hastags with multiple words, please use camel case.

                          #LikeThisExample

                          Not #likethisexample

                          Why?

                          A) Screen readers will see a bunch of letters that doesn't make one word and read out each individual letter. Which makes it hard to understand.

                          B) For us sighted people, it is also easier to read.

                          Thanks you

                          #TheForkiverse

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                          #42

                          @print Check - I'll (do my best to) remember it.

                          But gotta admit - I was mostly clicking to see how many Pascal vs. Camel mentions 😄

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                          • P print@theforkiverse.com

                            Hi everyone,

                            If you are using hastags with multiple words, please use camel case.

                            #LikeThisExample

                            Not #likethisexample

                            Why?

                            A) Screen readers will see a bunch of letters that doesn't make one word and read out each individual letter. Which makes it hard to understand.

                            B) For us sighted people, it is also easier to read.

                            Thanks you

                            #TheForkiverse

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                            #43

                            @print ... as anyone who remembers getting their software development tips from a site about experts doing sex changes will remember from the Olde Webbe.

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                            • P print@theforkiverse.com

                              @JaxxAI

                              According to Wikipedia,, and the person who invented the term. it is correct.

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                              #44

                              @print the case you are using is called PascalCase. True camelCase has the first letter as a lower.

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                              • jaxxai@floss.socialJ jaxxai@floss.social

                                @print the case you are using is called PascalCase. True camelCase has the first letter as a lower.

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                                #45

                                @JaxxAI

                                Incorrect.

                                It is camel case.

                                In particular upper camel case.

                                There is upper and lower canel case.

                                While aome people might call it PascalCase. That term did not enter usage until about 5 years later with .NET documentation.

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                                • P print@theforkiverse.com

                                  @JaxxAI

                                  Incorrect.

                                  It is camel case.

                                  In particular upper camel case.

                                  There is upper and lower canel case.

                                  While aome people might call it PascalCase. That term did not enter usage until about 5 years later with .NET documentation.

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                                  #46

                                  @JaxxAI

                                  "The earliest use of the name "Camel Case" occurs in 1995, in a post by Newton Love. "With the advent of programming languages having these sorts of constructs, the humpiness of the style made me call it HumpyCase at first, before I settled on CamelCase. I had been calling it CamelCase for years. ... The citation above was just the first time I had used the name on USENET."[
                                  The term "Pascal Case" was coined in design discussions for the .NET Framework, first released in 2002"

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                                  • P print@theforkiverse.com

                                    @JaxxAI

                                    "The earliest use of the name "Camel Case" occurs in 1995, in a post by Newton Love. "With the advent of programming languages having these sorts of constructs, the humpiness of the style made me call it HumpyCase at first, before I settled on CamelCase. I had been calling it CamelCase for years. ... The citation above was just the first time I had used the name on USENET."[
                                    The term "Pascal Case" was coined in design discussions for the .NET Framework, first released in 2002"

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                                    #47

                                    @print What you pasted there is straight off ChatGPT. Not a great. I was doing dev work in the 90s, we were using the terms back then. camelCase is what we were using in coding, PascalCase was what we used in Pascal in the late 80’s. The term UpperCamelCase came along as people didn’t like the lowercase letter at the start due to acronyms in variables. camelCase is and always was a lowercase letter at the start, UpperCamelCase is a different type which was NOT mentioned in your original posting.

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                                    • jaxxai@floss.socialJ jaxxai@floss.social

                                      @print What you pasted there is straight off ChatGPT. Not a great. I was doing dev work in the 90s, we were using the terms back then. camelCase is what we were using in coding, PascalCase was what we used in Pascal in the late 80’s. The term UpperCamelCase came along as people didn’t like the lowercase letter at the start due to acronyms in variables. camelCase is and always was a lowercase letter at the start, UpperCamelCase is a different type which was NOT mentioned in your original posting.

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                                      #48

                                      @JaxxAI

                                      No you weren't.

                                      Read all and learn.

                                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camel_case

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                                      • P print@theforkiverse.com

                                        @JaxxAI

                                        No you weren't.

                                        Read all and learn.

                                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camel_case

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                                        #49

                                        @JaxxAI

                                        As for the accusation of using aa cheat machine, you might want to browse my timeline.

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                                        • P print@theforkiverse.com

                                          @JaxxAI

                                          As for the accusation of using aa cheat machine, you might want to browse my timeline.

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                                          #50

                                          @print I have lost interest in you and your timeline. I don’t like people posting and quoting chunks of text from ChatGPT at me, it’s actually quite rude. I’ll bid you farewell, I’ve written hundreds of thousands of lines of code back from the early 90’s and I know and remember the true history of this having had it drummed into me as a junior engineer.

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