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  3. Bill Swearingen spent the past year developing a pattern that can defeat being detected by surveillance cameras, including vehicles and people.

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  • gclef@social.vivaldi.netG gclef@social.vivaldi.net

    @zackwhittaker

    Reminds me of the Lakota Sioux "ghost shirts"...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_shirt

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    #5

    @gclef @zackwhittaker I was going to say all the adversarial talks we used to give around 2013 citing that and razzle dazzle, and OEMs themselves...

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    • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

      Bill Swearingen spent the past year developing a pattern that can defeat being detected by surveillance cameras, including vehicles and people. At Def Con, for the first time, he demoed the pattern printed on a car against a Flock camera to prove it works. (One of my favorite talks from Def Con this year!)

      More by me at TechCrunch: https://techcrunch.com/2026/08/09/this-adversarial-pattern-can-prevent-surveillance-cameras-from-detecting-you/

      Ad-blocker bypass: https://web.archive.org/web/20260810033558/https://techcrunch.com/2026/08/09/this-adversarial-pattern-can-prevent-surveillance-cameras-from-detecting-you/

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      #6

      @zackwhittaker

      https://xkcd.com/1105/

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      • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

        Bill Swearingen spent the past year developing a pattern that can defeat being detected by surveillance cameras, including vehicles and people. At Def Con, for the first time, he demoed the pattern printed on a car against a Flock camera to prove it works. (One of my favorite talks from Def Con this year!)

        More by me at TechCrunch: https://techcrunch.com/2026/08/09/this-adversarial-pattern-can-prevent-surveillance-cameras-from-detecting-you/

        Ad-blocker bypass: https://web.archive.org/web/20260810033558/https://techcrunch.com/2026/08/09/this-adversarial-pattern-can-prevent-surveillance-cameras-from-detecting-you/

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        #7

        @zackwhittaker dude wtf

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        • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

          Bill Swearingen spent the past year developing a pattern that can defeat being detected by surveillance cameras, including vehicles and people. At Def Con, for the first time, he demoed the pattern printed on a car against a Flock camera to prove it works. (One of my favorite talks from Def Con this year!)

          More by me at TechCrunch: https://techcrunch.com/2026/08/09/this-adversarial-pattern-can-prevent-surveillance-cameras-from-detecting-you/

          Ad-blocker bypass: https://web.archive.org/web/20260810033558/https://techcrunch.com/2026/08/09/this-adversarial-pattern-can-prevent-surveillance-cameras-from-detecting-you/

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          #8

          @zackwhittaker one software tweak and sayonara

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            seedymofo@mastodon.social
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            #9

            @Barkeep @zackwhittaker Hadn’t spotted that, much obliged.

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            • S seedymofo@mastodon.social

              @zackwhittaker Disable my adblocker? Thanks but I’ll just read the story elsewhere.

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              #10

              @Seedymofo @zackwhittaker There are two links, did you try the “Adblock bypass” one?

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              • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                Bill Swearingen spent the past year developing a pattern that can defeat being detected by surveillance cameras, including vehicles and people. At Def Con, for the first time, he demoed the pattern printed on a car against a Flock camera to prove it works. (One of my favorite talks from Def Con this year!)

                More by me at TechCrunch: https://techcrunch.com/2026/08/09/this-adversarial-pattern-can-prevent-surveillance-cameras-from-detecting-you/

                Ad-blocker bypass: https://web.archive.org/web/20260810033558/https://techcrunch.com/2026/08/09/this-adversarial-pattern-can-prevent-surveillance-cameras-from-detecting-you/

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                #11

                @zackwhittaker Now they just need to come up with a pattern that you can be recognizable by just looking at it.

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                • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

                  @zackwhittaker

                  https://xkcd.com/1105/

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                  #12

                  @cR0w @zackwhittaker yep.

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                  • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                    Bill Swearingen spent the past year developing a pattern that can defeat being detected by surveillance cameras, including vehicles and people. At Def Con, for the first time, he demoed the pattern printed on a car against a Flock camera to prove it works. (One of my favorite talks from Def Con this year!)

                    More by me at TechCrunch: https://techcrunch.com/2026/08/09/this-adversarial-pattern-can-prevent-surveillance-cameras-from-detecting-you/

                    Ad-blocker bypass: https://web.archive.org/web/20260810033558/https://techcrunch.com/2026/08/09/this-adversarial-pattern-can-prevent-surveillance-cameras-from-detecting-you/

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                    #13

                    @zackwhittaker

                    I think that the government will solve the problem by kindly asking us to wear uniforms. Ever. And prosecute all other persons as terrorists.

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                    • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                      Bill Swearingen spent the past year developing a pattern that can defeat being detected by surveillance cameras, including vehicles and people. At Def Con, for the first time, he demoed the pattern printed on a car against a Flock camera to prove it works. (One of my favorite talks from Def Con this year!)

                      More by me at TechCrunch: https://techcrunch.com/2026/08/09/this-adversarial-pattern-can-prevent-surveillance-cameras-from-detecting-you/

                      Ad-blocker bypass: https://web.archive.org/web/20260810033558/https://techcrunch.com/2026/08/09/this-adversarial-pattern-can-prevent-surveillance-cameras-from-detecting-you/

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                      #14

                      @zackwhittaker strong #uglyshirt vibes, because of this paragraph in particular.

                      Each pattern can be used once and must be promptly discarded, never to be seen again.

                      @GreatDismal still in my mind with that one, even after all this time.

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                        #15

                        @Barkeep @zackwhittaker interesting read

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                        • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                          Bill Swearingen spent the past year developing a pattern that can defeat being detected by surveillance cameras, including vehicles and people. At Def Con, for the first time, he demoed the pattern printed on a car against a Flock camera to prove it works. (One of my favorite talks from Def Con this year!)

                          More by me at TechCrunch: https://techcrunch.com/2026/08/09/this-adversarial-pattern-can-prevent-surveillance-cameras-from-detecting-you/

                          Ad-blocker bypass: https://web.archive.org/web/20260810033558/https://techcrunch.com/2026/08/09/this-adversarial-pattern-can-prevent-surveillance-cameras-from-detecting-you/

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                          #16

                          @zackwhittaker

                          two questions

                          1
                          if this becomes popular, how long before Flock figures out how to defeat this ?

                          2
                          This will probably be so rare that it will make you instantly identifiable eg

                          I read, maybe 20 years ago, that so few people use add ons to their browsers (like ad blockers) that using add ons increases your fingerprint and makes you more easily trackable across the web

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                          • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

                            @zackwhittaker

                            https://xkcd.com/1105/

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                            #17

                            @cR0w in the last year or so my state introduced “blackout” plates that are license plates with bright white characters on an all black field. A lot of people have been saying it’s to make it easier for computers to read your plate and track you.

                            I guess they don’t realize that mobile plate scanners on vehicles and stationary readers at places like toll plazas have been doing this for decades already. Easier? Maybe. But it didn’t seem overly difficult before.

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                            • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                              Bill Swearingen spent the past year developing a pattern that can defeat being detected by surveillance cameras, including vehicles and people. At Def Con, for the first time, he demoed the pattern printed on a car against a Flock camera to prove it works. (One of my favorite talks from Def Con this year!)

                              More by me at TechCrunch: https://techcrunch.com/2026/08/09/this-adversarial-pattern-can-prevent-surveillance-cameras-from-detecting-you/

                              Ad-blocker bypass: https://web.archive.org/web/20260810033558/https://techcrunch.com/2026/08/09/this-adversarial-pattern-can-prevent-surveillance-cameras-from-detecting-you/

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                              #18

                              @zackwhittaker Nice work. Looking forward to the video.

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                              • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                                Bill Swearingen spent the past year developing a pattern that can defeat being detected by surveillance cameras, including vehicles and people. At Def Con, for the first time, he demoed the pattern printed on a car against a Flock camera to prove it works. (One of my favorite talks from Def Con this year!)

                                More by me at TechCrunch: https://techcrunch.com/2026/08/09/this-adversarial-pattern-can-prevent-surveillance-cameras-from-detecting-you/

                                Ad-blocker bypass: https://web.archive.org/web/20260810033558/https://techcrunch.com/2026/08/09/this-adversarial-pattern-can-prevent-surveillance-cameras-from-detecting-you/

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                                #19

                                Oh can't wait to see his latest talk. Bill did another talk a few years back on defeating radar guns. Love his approaches to surveillance and privacy issues

                                @zackwhittaker

                                https://youtu.be/vQtLms02PFM

                                #BillSwearingen #defcon #radio

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                                • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                                  Bill Swearingen spent the past year developing a pattern that can defeat being detected by surveillance cameras, including vehicles and people. At Def Con, for the first time, he demoed the pattern printed on a car against a Flock camera to prove it works. (One of my favorite talks from Def Con this year!)

                                  More by me at TechCrunch: https://techcrunch.com/2026/08/09/this-adversarial-pattern-can-prevent-surveillance-cameras-from-detecting-you/

                                  Ad-blocker bypass: https://web.archive.org/web/20260810033558/https://techcrunch.com/2026/08/09/this-adversarial-pattern-can-prevent-surveillance-cameras-from-detecting-you/

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                                  #20

                                  @zackwhittaker Man, if they had this in a polo...

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                                  • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

                                    @zackwhittaker

                                    https://xkcd.com/1105/

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                                    #21

                                    @cR0w @zackwhittaker You've misunderstood the goal. The goal is not to make the vehicle anonymous, the goal is to make searching for it amidst the thousands of hours of footage incredibly annoying because detections are not flagged by the system and therefore easily searchable

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                                    • sleepysaf@meow.socialS sleepysaf@meow.social

                                      @cR0w @zackwhittaker You've misunderstood the goal. The goal is not to make the vehicle anonymous, the goal is to make searching for it amidst the thousands of hours of footage incredibly annoying because detections are not flagged by the system and therefore easily searchable

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                                      #22

                                      @sleepysaf @zackwhittaker You've misunderstood my intent. The intent was to share a comic that is related to OP that I found entertaining.

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                                      • S seedymofo@mastodon.social

                                        @zackwhittaker Disable my adblocker? Thanks but I’ll just read the story elsewhere.

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                                        #23

                                        @Seedymofo
                                        or even better: keep adblocker but disable #javascript too, and then read article. @zackwhittaker

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