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  • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

    @cinebox @dingodog19 @mxchara

    When it came to home automation I had much more luck with automatic watering systems for plants. Turning water on and off is something you can do, and it can be very powerful.

    Since I'm rebooting my roof garden I'm making a new watering system now.

    Automation can be very hit or miss. Some "easy" tasks are hard.

    Opening a window? It's a big deal.

    4/4

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    #81

    @futurebird Yeah I watched a video involving an automatic ventilation system recently and they used louver units designed to be remotely open and closed. Typical windows are impossible for inexpensive motors, and you'd have to put some ugly mods on the window to make it doable for expensive ones.

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    • sabik@rants.auS sabik@rants.au

      @flippac @lienrag @futurebird
      I mean, you can see that the ones with the nunchucks just wave them about and never catch them

      All it really shows is bipedal balance

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      #82

      @sabik @lienrag @futurebird There's subtly more in the the sequence that appears to involve an actual contract drill towards the end, but only in the sense that the human performers get the job of making it look good (and we wouldn't see if any of them got a bruised arm doing it!)

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      • sabik@rants.auS sabik@rants.au

        @flippac @lienrag @futurebird
        I mean, you can see that the ones with the nunchucks just wave them about and never catch them

        All it really shows is bipedal balance

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        #83

        @sabik @flippac @lienrag

        Bipedal balence is impressive. I'm impressed with the ankle joins. ankle and wrist like joints are hard.

        Though the feet do not flex which means these robots cannot really walk the way that humans do. Foot flex is so powerful and subtile.

        Most animals have that joint much higher up, what do we get by making it so short? (it's not nothing. )

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        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

          @mxchara

          "We have a design for a robot, but the parts needed to build it do not exist. We need to use the LLM to design those too now."

          Real things people have said.

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          #84

          @futurebird @mxchara At least the space elevator wasn't in the context of a space bubble!

          (it's genuine hypothetical engineering, but also the context "unobtanium" was coined in...)

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          • flippac@types.plF flippac@types.pl

            @sabik @lienrag @futurebird There's subtly more in the the sequence that appears to involve an actual contract drill towards the end, but only in the sense that the human performers get the job of making it look good (and we wouldn't see if any of them got a bruised arm doing it!)

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            #85

            @flippac

            Yeah, remembering how a top Chinese gymnast broke her neck¹ while preparing for an impressive show like that (and was basically left to fend by herself by the government), I wonder how many children were wounded during training...

            ¹IIRC ? at least her spine, as she ended completely and irremediably paralyzed

            @sabik @futurebird

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            • lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.netL lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.net

              @flippac

              Yeah, remembering how a top Chinese gymnast broke her neck¹ while preparing for an impressive show like that (and was basically left to fend by herself by the government), I wonder how many children were wounded during training...

              ¹IIRC ? at least her spine, as she ended completely and irremediably paralyzed

              @sabik @futurebird

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              #86

              @lienrag @sabik @futurebird There's a reason the last time I was asked to demonstrate something I'd done a handful of times in my 20s, I said no!

              (butterfly kicks are, at the very least, for people who are still actively training)

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              • flippac@types.plF flippac@types.pl

                @sabik @lienrag @futurebird There's subtly more in the the sequence that appears to involve an actual contract drill towards the end, but only in the sense that the human performers get the job of making it look good (and we wouldn't see if any of them got a bruised arm doing it!)

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                #87

                @flippac @lienrag @futurebird
                The human performers are doing a lot

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                • sabik@rants.auS sabik@rants.au

                  @flippac @lienrag @futurebird
                  The human performers are doing a lot

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                  #88

                  @sabik @lienrag @futurebird yep, the other sort-of-interactive sequence with the poles I legit couldn't tell how good the bots really were

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                  • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                    @cinebox @dingodog19 @mxchara

                    When it came to home automation I had much more luck with automatic watering systems for plants. Turning water on and off is something you can do, and it can be very powerful.

                    Since I'm rebooting my roof garden I'm making a new watering system now.

                    Automation can be very hit or miss. Some "easy" tasks are hard.

                    Opening a window? It's a big deal.

                    4/4

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                    #89

                    @futurebird @cinebox @dingodog19 @mxchara

                    We experimented with a window "robot". No messing with cords, just 3d prints to mount a long threaded rod driven by a motor that lifted/pulled down the shade.
                    When we finally got it all rigged up the kid and I got to learn about thread pitch and how glacially slow it moved the shade. The setup was fine for a 3d printer's Z axis, not so much for a 3' tall shade.

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                    • darkling@mstdn.socialD darkling@mstdn.social

                      @futurebird It's so great that we've got all these helpful robots taking places in care homes now!

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                      #90

                      @darkling I was creeped out by our news showing a robot powered by an genAI chatbot "working" in a nursing home in Germany. My only big thought was: please let me get dementia *before* I have to talk with such an idiotic stochastic parrot to think I had a "friend".
                      Since then my idea is that my generation needs hacker communities in nursing homes.

                      @futurebird

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                      • mawhrin@circumstances.runM mawhrin@circumstances.run

                        @futurebird tangentially, i bet that any person who believes in developing fully robotized bedpan changers with the current technology never had to care for the bedridden people.

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                        #91

                        @mawhrin @futurebird

                        As someone who visits care homes regularly I really don’t see robots having much impact.

                        I also wonder how often they need repairing/charging/replacing over, say, a 40 year lifespan?

                        Let alone dealing with the emotional side of working in care homes, especially for those with the varying forms of dementia.

                        These jobs are the ones we should value way higher in society.

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