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  3. Seeing the SSH protocols formalized and standardized is nice, but I also note that after 57 years of Internet RFCs, we're closing in on needing a fifth digit for numbering them.

Seeing the SSH protocols formalized and standardized is nice, but I also note that after 57 years of Internet RFCs, we're closing in on needing a fifth digit for numbering them.

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  • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

    @carlmalamud Number of digits in your first published RFC is like Erdos numbers for networking people.

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    @mattblaze @carlmalamud This has big "I have a six-digit ICQ account number" vibes

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    • threatresearch@infosec.exchangeT threatresearch@infosec.exchange

      @mattblaze @carlmalamud This has big "I have a six-digit ICQ account number" vibes

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      #9

      @threatresearch @mattblaze @carlmalamud I have a 6 digit steamid.

      COWER IN THE PRESENCE OF SUCH COOLNESS

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      • stevebellovin@infosec.exchangeS stevebellovin@infosec.exchange

        @mattblaze @carlmalamud When I was on the IAB, we were writing an RFC on cryptographic technology and the Internet. Looking at where we were in the numbering, I emailed Jon Postel and asked if it could be RFC 1984. Jon replied, "We never reserve RFC numbers—but coincidences can happen". Guess what happened…

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        #10

        @SteveBellovin
        When we revised the JSON RFC7159 its successor was 8259, not by accident.

        There are conversations in progress about whether there should be an RFC Ten Thousand and if so what it should be.

        @mattblaze @carlmalamud

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        • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

          RE: https://mastodon.online/@rfceditor/116653935307843868

          Seeing the SSH protocols formalized and standardized is nice, but I also note that after 57 years of Internet RFCs, we're closing in on needing a fifth digit for numbering them.

          Hopefully this epoch will require less preparation than Y2K did.

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          @mattblaze alternate proposal: change from Requests For Comment to Requests For Discussion and start over at 0000

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          • timbray@cosocial.caT timbray@cosocial.ca

            @SteveBellovin
            When we revised the JSON RFC7159 its successor was 8259, not by accident.

            There are conversations in progress about whether there should be an RFC Ten Thousand and if so what it should be.

            @mattblaze @carlmalamud

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            @timbray @mattblaze @carlmalamud Yes, that's an old tradition. Look at, e.g., RFCs 822, 2822, 5322.

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            • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

              @carlmalamud Number of digits in your first published RFC is like Erdos numbers for networking people.

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              @mattblaze @carlmalamud
              The gulf between RFC9000 and RFC1436 is so great, I think we should just say specifically log10(id) is the metric. I assume mathematicians would approve.

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              • jordan@sometimes.socialJ jordan@sometimes.social

                @mattblaze alternate proposal: change from Requests For Comment to Requests For Discussion and start over at 0000

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                @jordan that will make everyone wonder what happeed to the Requests For Analysis and the Requests For Brainstorming.

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                • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                  @jordan that will make everyone wonder what happeed to the Requests For Analysis and the Requests For Brainstorming.

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                  @mattblaze same thing that happened to IPv5

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                  • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                    RE: https://mastodon.online/@rfceditor/116653935307843868

                    Seeing the SSH protocols formalized and standardized is nice, but I also note that after 57 years of Internet RFCs, we're closing in on needing a fifth digit for numbering them.

                    Hopefully this epoch will require less preparation than Y2K did.

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                    @mattblaze Yes, the RFC10K problem has been fixed. Took like a year but maybe only a dozen people. I think the current plan is to not publish RFC 10000, but I'm not positive.

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                    • rsalz@ioc.exchangeR rsalz@ioc.exchange

                      @mattblaze Yes, the RFC10K problem has been fixed. Took like a year but maybe only a dozen people. I think the current plan is to not publish RFC 10000, but I'm not positive.

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                      @rsalz @mattblaze yeah, no RFC10000. I feel sad, but, the reasoning around the argument of what would best make it significant swayed me.

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                      • timbray@cosocial.caT timbray@cosocial.ca

                        @SteveBellovin
                        When we revised the JSON RFC7159 its successor was 8259, not by accident.

                        There are conversations in progress about whether there should be an RFC Ten Thousand and if so what it should be.

                        @mattblaze @carlmalamud

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                        @timbray @SteveBellovin @mattblaze @carlmalamud I thought the RFC centre had decided to not issue RFC 10000, but go from 10001

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                        • timbray@cosocial.caT timbray@cosocial.ca

                          @SteveBellovin
                          When we revised the JSON RFC7159 its successor was 8259, not by accident.

                          There are conversations in progress about whether there should be an RFC Ten Thousand and if so what it should be.

                          @mattblaze @carlmalamud

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                          @timbray @SteveBellovin @mattblaze @carlmalamud they are Chinese Unicode characters right now. QUIC:

                          U+9000 → 退 (retreat, withdraw)
                          U+9001 → 送 (send, deliver)
                          U+9002 → 适 (go to; in simplified Chinese also used for 適, "suitable")

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                          • sayrer@mastodon.socialS sayrer@mastodon.social

                            @timbray @SteveBellovin @mattblaze @carlmalamud they are Chinese Unicode characters right now. QUIC:

                            U+9000 → 退 (retreat, withdraw)
                            U+9001 → 送 (send, deliver)
                            U+9002 → 适 (go to; in simplified Chinese also used for 適, "suitable")

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                            @timbray @SteveBellovin @mattblaze @carlmalamud

                            I have 9949 (饉). "A time of famine or crop failure"

                            https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc9949/

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